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Posted by: DavidJCobb
Posted by: A Dumb Door
True, there is a possibility that it would be a blocked proposition purely by the virtue of judiciary failures being covered up to save the aft ends of higher-ups and their salaries
However, that is one other reason that I propose that vigilantes receive no government support (financially or otherwise). Governments could then claim that the vigilantes are working on their own with no associations tying them to government justice systems. That could potentially be a foil. Plus, allowing vigilantism with the strict restrictions that I've said previously would greatly allow for epic support by the people. I mean, who doesn't want Batman running around their city keeping them safe?Indeed.
Even so, an effective justice system is a system in which fewer criminals are prosecuted and less money is made. I believe that vigilantes aren't what the higher-ups fear; efficiency is.
Posted by: A Dumb Door
Yeah, it'd probably start off pretty shaky. You know, vigilantism would be a tough job at the beginning. There would probably be a lot of casualties, but it would probably end up that vigilantes would start networking with each other, and then a nice little Justice League would be formed. Yeah, I know, I'm saying a lot of comic references, and while that may seem silly, I'm just using these as examples everyone can understand.Indeed. I can even anticipate the ironic twist of vigilante networks spreading and populating in much the same manner as gangs -- minus the illegitimacy, illegality, and malicious intentions.
Posted by: A Dumb Door
Vigilantes should probably also be given free vigilante passports that allow for free travel everywhere, thus vigilantes can team up, thus greatly increasing their abilities.In terms of lifting government-imposed travel restrictions, this would be a boon. In terms of lifting or affecting travel costs, those decisions would have to be made by the travel services themselves in keeping with the lack of government financing for vigilantes.Then the majority of the public would need to overrule in VAST majority. Like, ridiculously vast majority.
You know, if this actually happened, I wouldn't be surprised if vigilantism spread like that. Whole giant groups of vigilantes would make crime much easier to stop, seeing as they would be constantly investigating from so many different areas. Plus, with training, it'd be like a giant team of private investigators all working toward one cause.
Maybe the travel services are the only government support then? Just allowing for free travel isn't THAT big of a money sink, if it brings criminals to justice that would instead require great amounts of police funding.
There would probably also have to be a "Vigilante Constitution/Laws". Things like:
Vigilantes can only apprehend criminals guilty of the following crimes:
Theft/Attempted theft
Holding hostages for ransom or unjust gain
Inhumane torment
Murder/Attempted murder in cold blood
Excessively cruel acts
Brutal physical violence against an innocent bystander
etc. (maybe more, but that's all for now)
No vigilante may work for personal gain. All work must be done for the good of the public with no direct attempt at personal gain.
Vigilantes may not murder or execute without evidence of previous crimes committed worthy of capital punishment being repeated.
Vigilantes may not cause excessive brutal harm to those they deem necessary to incapacitate.
All vigilante targets may only be incapacitated, and must be immediately submitted to a proper authority upon incapacitation (exempt in cases of confirmed capital punishment) as soon as the vigilante has the ability to safely.
Thus, with all of these being followed, the efficiency is still up to judiciary systems, only less money is being spent on police raids. Less reason to turn it down.
[Edited on 08.19.2011 1:19 AM PDT]