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Subject: Can someone please explain the Halo 3 ending for me?

You noob go frag yourself

The ending in Halo 3 makes no sence to me. Can someone please explain it to me.
This is some thing that have been on my mind for a long time.

''We did it. Truth, Covenant the Flood; it's finished'' - Cortana
''It's finished'' - MC

I honestly expected the Chief to use his famous line from CE at that part.
That line really suprised me.

I'll start off with some (hopefully) simple answered questions:

1. How did the Chief and Arby survive?
The pre-firing of Alpha Halo 2 did destroy the ark and itself as it delivered ''the great journey''. The portal leading back to Earth were in the middle of 00, so what were Arby and Chief doing so far away from it. Slipspace traveling were impossible at those extreme distances last time i checked. So FUD would have been completely destroyed.

2. How did the war end by simply killing Truth?
What about the other billion covie loyalists?


3. How could the Flood stop being a threat by destroying the Gravemind?
A new Gravemind would be assigned and the Flood would continue their rampage. I highly doubt that every single flood-spore were at the location of 00.

Can someone here please clear up this mess for me?

  • 08.20.2011 8:02 AM PDT

Im txgrim4 (Grim, Grimmy, Grimsta), i have been playing xboxlive for 9 years, evr since day 1 of Halo:CE til now. I love H2, that and Halo 1 are my favs. Im a Halologist when it comes to the Bungie/Halo Universe. Ive also played Marathon Series, ONI, and Myth Series. I live in Texas, Play Football, and cant wait for Halo 4!

lol you posted this in waypoint forums too.


The only thing i will say is...


The Gravemind IS NOT dead. Nor the flood. THAT flood is dead but not all the flood.

and infact, we might see him again sometime :)

[Edited on 08.20.2011 8:11 AM PDT]

  • 08.20.2011 8:09 AM PDT

You noob go frag yourself


Posted by: txgrim4z
lol you posted this in waypoint forums too.


The only thing i will say is...


The Gravemind IS NOT dead. Nor the flood. THAT flood is dead but not all the flood.

Yeah, i didn't get that good replys from the forums at 343i.
The Halo experts are in this forum, so I hope they can help me.

Also: Gravemind as we knew him in H2 and H3 is dead.
A new Gravemind have been asigned but we don't know anything about him.

[Edited on 08.20.2011 8:14 AM PDT]

  • 08.20.2011 8:14 AM PDT

Signatures are for squares.

The Covenant is finished because all 3 of it's leaders were killed. Regret, Mercy, and Truth were all murdered. There is no one left to lead the Covenant. Almost ALL of the Prophets are dead. The elites are on our side, and what's left of the Covenant is just mindless forces.

The Flood is finished because they are no longer a major threat to Humanity for the time being. There are no active flood with the ability to travel left in our section of the milky way Galaxy. The chief finished off the Gravemind, which is the one who commands all the flood. Sure, they can make a new gravemind, but that takes a lot of time to do. And even if they DO make a new gravemind, it won't be able to go anywhere or do anything. Not for hundreds of years anyway, unless something extraordinary happens.

  • 08.20.2011 8:16 AM PDT

Im txgrim4 (Grim, Grimmy, Grimsta), i have been playing xboxlive for 9 years, evr since day 1 of Halo:CE til now. I love H2, that and Halo 1 are my favs. Im a Halologist when it comes to the Bungie/Halo Universe. Ive also played Marathon Series, ONI, and Myth Series. I live in Texas, Play Football, and cant wait for Halo 4!


Posted by: BadMaximum 7

Posted by: txgrim4z
lol you posted this in waypoint forums too.


The only thing i will say is...


The Gravemind IS NOT dead. Nor the flood. THAT flood is dead but not all the flood.

Yeah, i didn't get that good replys from the forums at 343i.
The Halo experts are in this forum, so I hope they can help me.

Also: Gravemind as we knew him in H2 and H3 is dead.
A new Gravemind have been asigned but we don't know anything about him.


I dont know, he could still be alive, he was last known to be on the remains of High Charity

and that gravemind is special because it is the last precursor

  • 08.20.2011 8:19 AM PDT


Posted by: BadMaximum 7
The ending in Halo 3 makes no sence to me. Can someone please explain it to me.
This is some thing that have been on my mind for a long time.

''We did it. Truth, Covenant the Flood; it's finished'' - Cortana
''It's finished'' - MC

I honestly expected the Chief to use his famous line from CE at that part.
That line really suprised me.

I'll start off with some (hopefully) simple answered questions:

1. How did the Chief and Arby survive?
The pre-firing of Alpha Halo 2 did destroy the ark and itself as it delivered ''the great journey''. The portal leading back to Earth were in the middle of 00, so what were Arby and Chief doing so far away from it. Slipspace traveling were impossible at those extreme distances last time i checked. So FUD would have been completely destroyed.

2. How did the war end by simply killing Truth?
What about the other billion covie loyalists?


3. How could the Flood stop being a threat by destroying the Gravemind?
A new Gravemind would be assigned and the Flood would continue their rampage. I highly doubt that every single flood-spore were at the location of 00.

Can someone here please clear up this mess for me?


1) The FUD was flying towards the Portal--which was deep in space--on conventional engines. Contrary to popular belief, the entire ship did get through the portal. Medicant Bias diverted the Chief's half to the LP and Arbiter got to go all the way to earth.

2) It didn't. For several years after, the Elites fought the reamining loylalists. But as an organization, the Covenant collapsed as their faith had been shattered and no leadership was capable of uniting them.

3) The Gravemind is NOT destroyed. He is in more of a dormant state, with the Flood still alive and kicking somewhere out there. "like water I ebb and flow; defeat is simply an addition of time, to a sentence I never deserved, but you... imposed"

-Gravemind's final line in Halo 3.

As the Gravemind is not truly a corporeal entity, it'd take something different to truly kill him. Which is probably what the second trilogy is about. The return of the Flood as the Forerunners knew them.

  • 08.20.2011 8:20 AM PDT

You noob go frag yourself


Posted by: txgrim4z

Posted by: BadMaximum 7

Posted by: txgrim4z
lol you posted this in waypoint forums too.


The only thing i will say is...


The Gravemind IS NOT dead. Nor the flood. THAT flood is dead but not all the flood.

Yeah, i didn't get that good replys from the forums at 343i.
The Halo experts are in this forum, so I hope they can help me.

Also: Gravemind as we knew him in H2 and H3 is dead.
A new Gravemind have been asigned but we don't know anything about him.


I dont know, he could still be alive, he was last known to be on the remains of High Charity

and that gravemind is special because it is the last precursor

High Charity is nothing but dust and echoes after the activation of 04.

  • 08.20.2011 8:21 AM PDT

So basically in the slipspace portal opened the arbitor and chief made it literally as it was closing and if you have played reach you will notice how a slipspace portal when it closes pretty much cuts everything in its path and teleports it so thats how the chief and arbitor made it.

2nd: Without their leader to rally behind there really isnt a threat if you look at the brutes and grunts neither are smart enough to survive without leadership so its only a matter of time before the good elites wipe them out

3rd The flood are still out there ,yes, but they are contained to Halo rings so the only mobile flood threat was the ship High Charity that both the gravemind and most flood were on so technically the only real flood threat per se is gone.

Hope that clears it up for you

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  • 08.20.2011 8:22 AM PDT

Im txgrim4 (Grim, Grimmy, Grimsta), i have been playing xboxlive for 9 years, evr since day 1 of Halo:CE til now. I love H2, that and Halo 1 are my favs. Im a Halologist when it comes to the Bungie/Halo Universe. Ive also played Marathon Series, ONI, and Myth Series. I live in Texas, Play Football, and cant wait for Halo 4!

agreeing with OP^ with the garvemind quote

  • 08.20.2011 8:24 AM PDT

You noob go frag yourself


Posted by: ROBERTO jh

Posted by: BadMaximum 7
The ending in Halo 3 makes no sence to me. Can someone please explain it to me.
This is some thing that have been on my mind for a long time.

''We did it. Truth, Covenant the Flood; it's finished'' - Cortana
''It's finished'' - MC

I honestly expected the Chief to use his famous line from CE at that part.
That line really suprised me.

I'll start off with some (hopefully) simple answered questions:

1. How did the Chief and Arby survive?
The pre-firing of Alpha Halo 2 did destroy the ark and itself as it delivered ''the great journey''. The portal leading back to Earth were in the middle of 00, so what were Arby and Chief doing so far away from it. Slipspace traveling were impossible at those extreme distances last time i checked. So FUD would have been completely destroyed.

2. How did the war end by simply killing Truth?
What about the other billion covie loyalists?


3. How could the Flood stop being a threat by destroying the Gravemind?
A new Gravemind would be assigned and the Flood would continue their rampage. I highly doubt that every single flood-spore were at the location of 00.

Can someone here please clear up this mess for me?


1) The FUD was flying towards the Portal--which was deep in space--on conventional engines. Contrary to popular belief, the entire ship did get through the portal. Medicant Bias diverted the Chief's half to the LP and Arbiter got to go all the way to earth.

2) It didn't. For several years after, the Elites fought the reamining loylalists. But as an organization, the Covenant collapsed as their faith had been shattered and no leadership was capable of uniting them.

3) The Gravemind is NOT destroyed. He is in more of a dormant state, with the Flood still alive and kicking somewhere out there. "like water I ebb and flow; defeat is simply an addition of time, to a sentence I never deserved, but you... imposed"

-Gravemind's final line in Halo 3.

As the Gravemind is not truly a corporeal entity, it'd take something different to truly kill him. Which is probably what the second trilogy is about. The return of the Flood as the Forerunners knew them.

This is the best reply i have got yet. Thank you!

So you mean the Gravemind is flying around uncontrolable in vaccum? o.0

[Edited on 08.20.2011 8:25 AM PDT]

  • 08.20.2011 8:25 AM PDT

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Posted by: BadMaximum 7
The ending in Halo 3 makes no sence to me. Can someone please explain it to me.
This is some thing that have been on my mind for a long time.

''We did it. Truth, Covenant the Flood; it's finished'' - Cortana
''It's finished'' - MC

I honestly expected the Chief to use his famous line from CE at that part.
That line really suprised me.

I'll start off with some (hopefully) simple answered questions:

1. How did the Chief and Arby survive?
The pre-firing of Alpha Halo 2 did destroy the ark and itself as it delivered ''the great journey''. The portal leading back to Earth were in the middle of 00, so what were Arby and Chief doing so far away from it. Slipspace traveling were impossible at those extreme distances last time i checked. So FUD would have been completely destroyed.

2. How did the war end by simply killing Truth?
What about the other billion covie loyalists?


3. How could the Flood stop being a threat by destroying the Gravemind?
A new Gravemind would be assigned and the Flood would continue their rampage. I highly doubt that every single flood-spore were at the location of 00.

Can someone here please clear up this mess for me?


Your first mistake, you are assuming way too much about what a ending and more specifically what the ending of Halo, is and should be.

An ending to a story, in this case a trilogy, does not answer all questions. Not good ones anyhow. Especially one's that plan to continue the story in future installments.

1. The Masterchief and Arbiter, upon the activation of the new ring, flew into the open portal on the human frigate in an attempt to escape. That open portal was, indeed, in the middle of the installation, which is where they were. They did not make it through the portal entirely in time, the installation was destroyed as they passed through it, cutting off the portal prematurely, sending one section of the ship back to Earth, and the other half which was still in the portal itself to a yet to be determined new location. How or why that part of the ship ended up there is a mystery to this day, one Halo 4 will likely address.

2. The Covenant was already crippled by civil war. They had already taken massive losses from the human war and Flood attacks. In that state, when the remaining leadership and any who might take up that mantle are also killed, the army itself is not going to survive. When your enemy's army is broken and the leadership destroyed, you've won that war. High Charity, where most of the Prophets lived and worked, was destroyed, with few survivors. Some Prophets may have survived and might even seek revenge, but the Covenant in the form it was known for, is forever gone.
This does not mean that everyone who believes in the Covenant is gone. In fact, media that came out after Halo 3 directly suggests otherwise, in the form of Sanghelli and their cohorts as loyalists to the original Great Journey and extermination of the humans. This is what we call a open story line, a back door to this part of the plot, where it may be picked up upon in the future. Seriously doubt there is a billion Covenant loyalists, considering the massive losses they suffered.

3. No one said the Flood was entirely gone. But the outbreak that was currently an issue, is gone. The Gravemind dead and by the coordinated efforts of Human and Covenant forces, the infection everywhere else it spread to was contained and destroyed (as far as they/we know). It is no question that they still remain in the universe, and might even be still hiding somewhere in our Galaxy and might yet escape. After all there are other Rings that no one has found that are known to contain and study the Flood, plus other yet to be discovered Forerunner installations elsewhere.

  • 08.20.2011 8:29 AM PDT

If you're passionate about the thing you're talking about, I'll always lend an ear.

Posted by: BadMaximum 7
So you mean the Gravemind is flying around uncontrolable in vaccum? o.0

No.

But any flood outbreak with enough mass and corpses has the potential of becoming a grave mind if enough knowledge is gathered.

  • 08.20.2011 8:30 AM PDT

You noob go frag yourself


Posted by: JobeTheConqueror

Posted by: BadMaximum 7
The ending in Halo 3 makes no sence to me. Can someone please explain it to me.
This is some thing that have been on my mind for a long time.

''We did it. Truth, Covenant the Flood; it's finished'' - Cortana
''It's finished'' - MC

I honestly expected the Chief to use his famous line from CE at that part.
That line really suprised me.

I'll start off with some (hopefully) simple answered questions:

1. How did the Chief and Arby survive?
The pre-firing of Alpha Halo 2 did destroy the ark and itself as it delivered ''the great journey''. The portal leading back to Earth were in the middle of 00, so what were Arby and Chief doing so far away from it. Slipspace traveling were impossible at those extreme distances last time i checked. So FUD would have been completely destroyed.

2. How did the war end by simply killing Truth?
What about the other billion covie loyalists?


3. How could the Flood stop being a threat by destroying the Gravemind?
A new Gravemind would be assigned and the Flood would continue their rampage. I highly doubt that every single flood-spore were at the location of 00.

Can someone here please clear up this mess for me?


Your first mistake, you are assuming way too much about what a ending and more specifically what the ending of Halo, is and should be.

An ending to a story, in this case a trilogy, does not answer all questions. Not good ones anyhow. Especially one's that plan to continue the story in future installments.

1. The Masterchief and Arbiter, upon the activation of the new ring, flew into the open portal on the human frigate in an attempt to escape. That open portal was, indeed, in the middle of the installation, which is where they were. They did not make it through the portal entirely in time, the installation was destroyed as they passed through it, cutting off the portal prematurely, sending one section of the ship back to Earth, and the other half which was still in the portal itself to a yet to be determined new location. How or why that part of the ship ended up there is a mystery to this day, one Halo 4 will likely address.

2. The Covenant was already crippled by civil war. They had already taken massive losses from the human war and Flood attacks. In that state, when the remaining leadership and any who might take up that mantle are also killed, the army itself is not going to survive. When your enemy's army is broken and the leadership destroyed, you've won that war. High Charity, where most of the Prophets lived and worked, was destroyed, with few survivors. Some Prophets may have survived and might even seek revenge, but the Covenant in the form it was known for, is forever gone.
This does not mean that everyone who believes in the Covenant is gone. In fact, media that came out after Halo 3 directly suggests otherwise, in the form of Sanghelli and their cohorts as loyalists to the original Great Journey and extermination of the humans. This is what we call a open story line, a back door to this part of the plot, where it may be picked up upon in the future. Seriously doubt there is a billion Covenant loyalists, considering the massive losses they suffered.

3. No one said the Flood was entirely gone. But the outbreak that was currently an issue, is gone. The Gravemind dead and by the coordinated efforts of Human and Covenant forces, the infection everywhere else it spread to was contained and destroyed (as far as they/we know). It is no question that they still remain in the universe, and might even be still hiding somewhere in our Galaxy and might yet escape. After all there are other Rings that no one has found that are known to contain and study the Flood, plus other yet to be discovered Forerunner installations elsewhere.

Thank you!

This reply is even better than the most recent one.
You pretty much covered everything and a little more.

The ending makes a little more sence now. : )

  • 08.20.2011 8:34 AM PDT

You noob go frag yourself


Posted by: ninjakenzen
Posted by: BadMaximum 7
So you mean the Gravemind is flying around uncontrolable in vaccum? o.0

No.

But any flood outbreak with enough mass and corpses has the potential of becoming a grave mind if enough knowledge is gathered.

That's what i thought too, but some people say he's still alive.

[Edited on 08.20.2011 8:38 AM PDT]

  • 08.20.2011 8:37 AM PDT


Posted by: BadMaximum 7

Posted by: ROBERTO jh

Posted by: BadMaximum 7
The ending in Halo 3 makes no sence to me. Can someone please explain it to me.
This is some thing that have been on my mind for a long time.

''We did it. Truth, Covenant the Flood; it's finished'' - Cortana
''It's finished'' - MC

I honestly expected the Chief to use his famous line from CE at that part.
That line really suprised me.

I'll start off with some (hopefully) simple answered questions:

1. How did the Chief and Arby survive?
The pre-firing of Alpha Halo 2 did destroy the ark and itself as it delivered ''the great journey''. The portal leading back to Earth were in the middle of 00, so what were Arby and Chief doing so far away from it. Slipspace traveling were impossible at those extreme distances last time i checked. So FUD would have been completely destroyed.

2. How did the war end by simply killing Truth?
What about the other billion covie loyalists?


3. How could the Flood stop being a threat by destroying the Gravemind?
A new Gravemind would be assigned and the Flood would continue their rampage. I highly doubt that every single flood-spore were at the location of 00.

Can someone here please clear up this mess for me?


1) The FUD was flying towards the Portal--which was deep in space--on conventional engines. Contrary to popular belief, the entire ship did get through the portal. Medicant Bias diverted the Chief's half to the LP and Arbiter got to go all the way to earth.

2) It didn't. For several years after, the Elites fought the reamining loylalists. But as an organization, the Covenant collapsed as their faith had been shattered and no leadership was capable of uniting them.

3) The Gravemind is NOT destroyed. He is in more of a dormant state, with the Flood still alive and kicking somewhere out there. "like water I ebb and flow; defeat is simply an addition of time, to a sentence I never deserved, but you... imposed"

-Gravemind's final line in Halo 3.

As the Gravemind is not truly a corporeal entity, it'd take something different to truly kill him. Which is probably what the second trilogy is about. The return of the Flood as the Forerunners knew them.

This is the best reply i have got yet. Thank you!

So you mean the Gravemind is flying around uncontrolable in vaccum? o.0


In the Milky Way, or at least how we see him, he exists as a non-corporeal entity. That is to say, with no physical body. He uses the Flood as that body. I personally think its the Primordial projecting his mind into the Flood to act as its voice, but this is unclear at the moment.

  • 08.20.2011 8:57 AM PDT

By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

Posted by: ROBERTO jh
In the Milky Way, or at least how we see him, he exists as a non-corporeal entity. That is to say, with no physical body. He uses the Flood as that body. I personally think its the Primordial projecting his mind into the Flood to act as its voice, but this is unclear at the moment.


That's quite interesting.

So we could say that the Primordial is using the Gravemind as a conduit, he represents the mouth (similar to the Mouth of Sauron from LOTR).

  • 08.20.2011 10:18 AM PDT

yo in clan mssg for join.
i hate all of you and the only reason i play games like this is to kill other peoples happiness.
have a nice day.

During reentry into earths atmosphere half of the ship broke off into space. Master chief and Cortana were on this part. Arby made it down safely. They are floating around in space while cortana faces the threat of becoming rampant. The flood was destroyed. It started living and growing on the halo ring which MC destroyed.


[Edited on 08.20.2011 11:12 AM PDT]

  • 08.20.2011 11:10 AM PDT