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Subject: Planet in Halo 4 HAS to be new, and does anyone know

Marine: "Got a new contact. Unknown Classification!"
Lord Hood: "If it isn't one of ours, take it out."
MC: "This is bus 117, can anyone hear me? Over."
Lord Hood: "Isolate that signal. Master Chief, you mind telling me you're doing at that school?"
MC: "Sir... picking up these kids."

in what galaxy the Ark resides? As seen from Halo 3 on the level "The Ark" you can clearly look up into the sky and see it (occasionally a marine will comment on it) which implies that you aren't in the milkyway galaxy, which is where every Halo media involving humans and Covenant have taken place so far.

On that note, due to the fact that only Vadam's half of the ship was able to enter slipspace, while Cortana and Chief drifted, it's 100% safe to assume that they are NOT going to end up at any planets near in the Milky Way.

Thoughts?

  • 08.20.2011 8:46 AM PDT

The Ark is not in another galaxy.

Just outside our own.

  • 08.20.2011 8:54 AM PDT

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There is space between galaxies.

It is suggested with Halo media that the Ark is outside the galaxy, either just outside it or in the deep outskirts of it, a grey area that could or could not be considered part of the galaxy.

So at best guess, from what we know, the Ark is either in the Milky Way Galaxy, or in no galaxy at all.

  • 08.20.2011 8:56 AM PDT


Posted by: Sakanade
The Ark is not in another galaxy.

Just outside our own.
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  • 08.20.2011 8:56 AM PDT
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Mendicant changed the coordinates on the last sec.

Arby section heads into portal

Mendicant changes coordinates so the Chief section goes somewhere else.

People saying it's near the ark because of your reasons is wrong,just wanted to make that clear.

The LD is located in this milky way cuz a waypoint video about Chief and Cortana says so...but i wouldn't be surprised if we find out that the LD is in another galaxy...it wouldn't be the first time they lied about the storyline just for not spoiling the surprise.

We can expect info at PAX next week :)

  • 08.20.2011 8:58 AM PDT

Marine: "Got a new contact. Unknown Classification!"
Lord Hood: "If it isn't one of ours, take it out."
MC: "This is bus 117, can anyone hear me? Over."
Lord Hood: "Isolate that signal. Master Chief, you mind telling me you're doing at that school?"
MC: "Sir... picking up these kids."


Posted by: Sakanade
The Ark is not in another galaxy.

Just outside our own.


I suppose that's fair, it doesn't have to be in another galaxy, but in Halo Origins we see it sending Halos through a portal next to a planet. The planet could be in intergalactic space I suppose. Still, where is it? Does anyone have a guess?

  • 08.20.2011 9:00 AM PDT


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Posted by: Sakanade
The Ark is not in another galaxy.

Just outside our own.


I suppose that's fair, it doesn't have to be in another galaxy, but in Halo Origins we see it sending Halos through a portal next to a planet. The planet could be in intergalactic space I suppose. Still, where is it? Does anyone have a guess?


The portal connects with several places in Milky Way, thats how Forerunners would get massive objects like the rings through slipspace.

And just so you know, Master Chief DID get through the Portal, Medicant Bias diverted his half to the Legendary planet. I'd read the Terminals and the IRIS campaign, it'll make Halo 4 make a lot more sense

  • 08.20.2011 9:06 AM PDT

Remember guys the Milky way is HUGE.

I bet you not even the Forerunners explored 100% of it.

Chief and Cortana are somewhere in the Milky Way.

  • 08.20.2011 9:06 AM PDT

You are all constructs of my solipsist mind.

When did it say that Mendicant sent Chief's half to the legendary planet? I thought Mendicant only communicated through terminals...

  • 08.20.2011 9:13 AM PDT


Posted by: xNiGhThAwKx19
When did it say that Mendicant sent Chief's half to the legendary planet? I thought Mendicant only communicated through terminals...


Because Medicant Bias was in the Ark's systems, told us he'd be keeping us safe on the path ahead, and the Chief definitely got through the Portal. It'd be the biggest macguffin ever if he just happened to break out of the Portal exactly where MB wanted him too.

  • 08.20.2011 9:16 AM PDT

Marine: "Got a new contact. Unknown Classification!"
Lord Hood: "If it isn't one of ours, take it out."
MC: "This is bus 117, can anyone hear me? Over."
Lord Hood: "Isolate that signal. Master Chief, you mind telling me you're doing at that school?"
MC: "Sir... picking up these kids."


Posted by: Sakanade
Remember guys the Milky way is HUGE.

I bet you not even the Forerunners explored 100% of it.

Chief and Cortana are somewhere in the Milky Way.



You're clearly outside of it while on the Ark. In fact not only is it confirmed in game, others have acknowledged it on Halopedia. They even have a lightyear count of 210,000 something of how far the Ark is from the Milky Way Galaxy.

Cortana says at the end of Halo 3 "When Halo fired it shook itself to pieces... did a number on the Ark. The portal couldn't sustain itself, we made it through just as it collapsed... well some of us made it."

So they made it through the portal just as it collapsed, however only the Arbiter made it all the way home. I would presume that that would mean one of two things:

1 that the ship is somehwere in the 210,000 distance between it and the milky way galaxy, assuming the portal is some sort of condensed passage way through space and goes through a sub path. On Halopedia it states that the Halos were sent through space from the Ark via Slipspace, but with Slipspace there is a direction in which things are meant to go, and if it cuts short, I assume you just come out of Slipspace... I realize that Halopedia is fan maintained but at the same time you can't deny it's very accurate and most information can be proven from some media source. So if it's slipspace, they should be somewhere inbetween The Ark and The Milky Way Galaxy, specifically Earth.
OR
2 if it is a Portal in the same sense the portals are in Halo Multiplayer, as in they either work or the don't, then they didn't get the ship all the way through the portal and the ship was cut in half. It would be like if half of you went through a portal and it shut down. It would split you in two.

Though it's difficult to give these atrributes to alien technology, it was either a Jump through space or it was a portal from Earth to the Ark, but Halopedia states Slipspace for some reason.

I would imagine the Ark would have multiple worlds it can be connected to, with multiple portals. So the only reasoning I really find acceptable are:

The two above.
Or.

The Ark is connected to several worlds and at the last minute Mendicant changed the portal/slipspace thing it was attatched to to another recieving portal, that being the Legendary planet, AND that's a stretch seeing as how in order for the portals to exist they need a send/receiver to work, like the one on Earth, and there wasn't one present where Cortana and Chief ended up, because they were floating in empty space, thus no reciever.

The fact that the Halos were distributed without a reciever prove that one isn't necessary however, unless the Halos themself can be navigated through space and all made it to portals like the one on Earth and drove themselves to their current spots.

I suppose you can pick where you are sent from the Ark somehow and I suppose Mendicant could have changed trajectory, but that's assuming that them not making it means NOT MAKING it out of the portal, not not making IN the portal.


For the record, they should have made Mendicant tampering with it a bit more clear. Normal people who play the game and like the story don't necessarilly know that. If he'll become the main antagonist for the next few games I hope they explain it better for a more casual audience.



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Posted by: hotshot revan II
Mendicant changed the coordinates on the last sec.

Arby section heads into portal

Mendicant changes coordinates so the Chief section goes somewhere else.

People saying it's near the ark because of your reasons is wrong,just wanted to make that clear.

The LD is located in this milky way cuz a waypoint video about Chief and Cortana says so...but i wouldn't be surprised if we find out that the LD is in another galaxy...it wouldn't be the first time they lied about the storyline just for not spoiling the surprise.

We can expect info at PAX next week :)

I actually like that theory that the reason Forward Unto Dawn was split was because Mendicant changed the coordinates. It kinda makes sense alongside the terminals.

  • 08.20.2011 11:20 AM PDT

It is a shield world. There has been so much foreshadowing for this.

  • 08.20.2011 11:22 AM PDT

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I recall Frankie saying that anyone who's beaten Halo 3 on Legendary should know what the object is that the Chief is floating towards.

  • 08.20.2011 11:24 AM PDT


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Posted by: Sakanade
Remember guys the Milky way is HUGE.

I bet you not even the Forerunners explored 100% of it.

Chief and Cortana are somewhere in the Milky Way.




The Ark is connected to several worlds and at the last minute Mendicant changed the portal/slipspace thing it was attatched to to another recieving portal, that being the Legendary planet, AND that's a stretch seeing as how in order for the portals to exist they need a send/receiver to work, like the one on Earth, and there wasn't one present where Cortana and Chief ended up, because they were floating in empty space, thus no reciever.







This is all that needs to be said. Seriously, Terminals, read them.

The Portal network was revealed in Cryptum to be a massive webway of interconnecting gateways to important places in Forerunner space. MB likely had control over it in the Ark.

For the record, they should have made Mendicant tampering with it a bit more clear. Normal people who play the game and like the story don't necessarilly know that. If he'll become the main antagonist for the next few games I hope they explain it better for a more casual audience.

What? Antagonist? Who told you that? Antagonist is the polar opposite of what he is now, a protagonist. He's the one who will be keeping the Chief safe, he's the one who is bringing him to the Forerunners.

You really need to read up on Halo history. It seems you may be a little behind.

  • 08.20.2011 11:28 AM PDT

Marine: "Got a new contact. Unknown Classification!"
Lord Hood: "If it isn't one of ours, take it out."
MC: "This is bus 117, can anyone hear me? Over."
Lord Hood: "Isolate that signal. Master Chief, you mind telling me you're doing at that school?"
MC: "Sir... picking up these kids."


Posted by: King Nis085
I recall Frankie saying that anyone who's beaten Halo 3 on Legendary should know what the object is that the Chief is floating towards.


If it's a planet we know about such as Onyx, OR if it's a Shield World and that's all we're supposed to know, then why was he sent there?

If Mendicant didn't do it, then Master Chief should be in between the Ark and Earth. If he DID do it, then why send him there? I find it silly to believe a corrupt A.I. would want to exact vengeance on JUST Master Chief, rather than punish all of the species for causing so much conflict and destruction, the same way the Foreunners punished rthe humans an de-evolutionized them.

Perhaps he meant to punish both the Arbiter and the Chief, but still, why send him to a planet, a hiled world? Why not just kill him? I'm sure the Ark has weapons on it, the Halo Rings did as revealed by the new Terminal data for the Halo Anniversay trailer. I'd be suprised if Mendicat wants the "satisfaction" of killing Master Chief himself... and what could they have of value? His armor is worthless compared to the Foreunners, MC's knowledge is probably far less than 2401's, and Cortana shouldn't have anything of value anymore, seeing as how Mendicant knows where Earth is...

I don't see the logic, but I hope it's something worth making a trilogy over, I hope it's not some silly revenge plot against ONE soldier. I know he's THE soldier, but still... it just doesn't seem fitting.

  • 08.20.2011 11:37 AM PDT

Marine: "Got a new contact. Unknown Classification!"
Lord Hood: "If it isn't one of ours, take it out."
MC: "This is bus 117, can anyone hear me? Over."
Lord Hood: "Isolate that signal. Master Chief, you mind telling me you're doing at that school?"
MC: "Sir... picking up these kids."


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Posted by: Sakanade
Remember guys the Milky way is HUGE.

I bet you not even the Forerunners explored 100% of it.

Chief and Cortana are somewhere in the Milky Way.




The Ark is connected to several worlds and at the last minute Mendicant changed the portal/slipspace thing it was attatched to to another recieving portal, that being the Legendary planet, AND that's a stretch seeing as how in order for the portals to exist they need a send/receiver to work, like the one on Earth, and there wasn't one present where Cortana and Chief ended up, because they were floating in empty space, thus no reciever.







This is all that needs to be said. Seriously, Terminals, read them.

The Portal network was revealed in Cryptum to be a massive webway of interconnecting gateways to important places in Forerunner space. MB likely had control over it in the Ark.

For the record, they should have made Mendicant tampering with it a bit more clear. Normal people who play the game and like the story don't necessarilly know that. If he'll become the main antagonist for the next few games I hope they explain it better for a more casual audience.

What? Antagonist? Who told you that? Antagonist is the polar opposite of what he is now, a protagonist. He's the one who will be keeping the Chief safe, he's the one who is bringing him to the Forerunners.

You really need to read up on Halo history. It seems you may be a little behind.


Maybe I am behind... last I understood Mendicant sided with Gravemind during Foreunner/Flood conflict and remained by his side until the end of 3 at least...

Why would he help MC?

  • 08.20.2011 11:39 AM PDT
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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?

Read the the last terminal

  • 08.20.2011 11:40 AM PDT

Marine: "Got a new contact. Unknown Classification!"
Lord Hood: "If it isn't one of ours, take it out."
MC: "This is bus 117, can anyone hear me? Over."
Lord Hood: "Isolate that signal. Master Chief, you mind telling me you're doing at that school?"
MC: "Sir... picking up these kids."

I get it now...I confused Menidcant Bias and Pentinent Tangent... Sorry. Ahaha.

I guess for the rest of the info we'll have to wait for Halofest... or the game.

  • 08.20.2011 11:52 AM PDT

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I think you mean Offensive Bias. He wants to destroy MB, it's why he was built. Also, an interesting theory i came up with propses that MB is actually partly in, or controlling Cortana. When the portal shifted, it split the ship, seperating MC and the Arbiter. In order to even know which person, er, thing... to send where, they must have know exactly where the two were in the Foward unto Dawn. Who else was on the ship that could monitor them both, and knew exactly where they were? Cortana, that's who.. Wether she wants to or not, Cortana's going to be part of MB's plan to guide John.

  • 08.20.2011 12:02 PM PDT

Marine: "Got a new contact. Unknown Classification!"
Lord Hood: "If it isn't one of ours, take it out."
MC: "This is bus 117, can anyone hear me? Over."
Lord Hood: "Isolate that signal. Master Chief, you mind telling me you're doing at that school?"
MC: "Sir... picking up these kids."


Posted by: firedune
I think you mean Offensive Bias. He wants to destroy MB, it's why he was built. Also, an interesting theory i came up with propses that MB is actually partly in, or controlling Cortana. When the portal shifted, it split the ship, seperating MC and the Arbiter. In order to even know which person, er, thing... to send where, they must have know exactly where the two were in the Foward unto Dawn. Who else was on the ship that could monitor them both, and knew exactly where they were? Cortana, that's who.. Wether she wants to or not, Cortana's going to be part of MB's plan to guide John.


I like that because it's the only way it would have made sense to split the ships on purpose.

I still don't know why the Arbiter wouldn't be allowed though. I guess because he's not a reclaimer.

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?

Mendicant bias is dead and died on halo.


"so here at the end of my life". He had to stay on halo to keep it from falling apart. and he didn't have to go with chief, the mere fact that a human got to that location would tell them MB did something.

  • 08.20.2011 12:06 PM PDT