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Subject: Halo 4 Precursor-gravemind theory

Okay the Story begins with master chief being woken up by Cortana as the ship gets sucked into this wierd planet thing. Then as chief is trying to escape, he gets attacked by a group of Onyx Sentinals. He fights valliantly with that cool grenade-launcher/pistol thing from the trailer, but eventually is defeated. Right before the Sentinals kill him, they are attacked by a group of flood pure ranged forms that have hitched a ride onto the ship. The sentinals retreat and the flood persue them seemingly unaware of masterchiefs presene. Then one turns into a stalker form and approaches chief.
John prepares for a fight, when the stalker suddenly freezes and master chief heres a gravemind voice in his head. Gravemind tells chief that he escaped into the lower levels of the ship and is willing to help master chief if master chief saves him.
Seeing that they have no choice, Cortana convinces him that they should try to find him.
When they get to the bottom of the ship, they do not see gravemind. Instead they see a tall humanoid creature with four arms and a squid-like head. The creature speaks to them in the same rythmic pattern of gravemind, and tells how he is not actually flood but is the last precursor. The timeless one.

  • 08.20.2011 10:35 AM PDT

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

1. Why Onyx Sentinels?
2. The Flood did not get on the FuD.
3. You aren't the first to suggest the Gravemind is the Timeless One.

This theory isn't very well though out.

  • 08.20.2011 10:38 AM PDT
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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?

Been here and done this far better.

  • 08.20.2011 10:39 AM PDT

If i remember correctly, you were that person with that other stupid topic of which i forgot the name.

please get out of here.

  • 08.20.2011 10:39 AM PDT


Posted by: DecepticonCobra
1. Why Onyx Sentinels?
2. The Flood did not get on the FuD.
3. You aren't the first to suggest the Gravemind is the Timeless One.

This theory isn't very well though out.


1. It is a Shield World
2. or maybe we just didn't realize that.
3. How is that a problem exactly?? Gravemind told chief he was timeless in the fith level of halo

  • 08.20.2011 10:40 AM PDT
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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?

no flood is on FuD.

  • 08.20.2011 10:41 AM PDT


Posted by: TooMuchAlcohol
If i remember correctly, you were that person with that other stupid topic of which i forgot the name.

please get out of here.
what the -blam!- is your problem and how the hell is this stupid. If you don't like it thats fine but don't troll my threads. If it gets too crowded with trolls I will just make another one.

  • 08.20.2011 10:41 AM PDT


Posted by: grey101
no flood is on FuD.
how do you know?

  • 08.20.2011 10:42 AM PDT


Posted by: grey101
no flood is on FuD.
how do you know?

  • 08.20.2011 10:43 AM PDT

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

Posted by: johnthethird

Posted by: DecepticonCobra
1. Why Onyx Sentinels?
2. The Flood did not get on the FuD.
3. You aren't the first to suggest the Gravemind is the Timeless One.

This theory isn't very well though out.


1. It is a Shield World
2. or maybe we just didn't realize that.
3. How is that a problem exactly?? Gravemind told chief he was timeless in the fith level of halo


1, Prove it's a Shield World.
2. So the Flood just chill in the hanger for a few years without starving?
3. Well first of all you seem so amused that you thought of it and you don't really provide any real proof of the connection while others, like myself, have.

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?


Posted by: johnthethird

Posted by: grey101
no flood is on FuD.
how do you know?


How about you tell us how they got there and lasted for 4-5 years and i'll retort with a jackass sarcastic response?

  • 08.20.2011 10:46 AM PDT


Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Posted by: johnthethird

Posted by: DecepticonCobra
1. Why Onyx Sentinels?
2. The Flood did not get on the FuD.
3. You aren't the first to suggest the Gravemind is the Timeless One.

This theory isn't very well though out.


1. It is a Shield World
2. or maybe we just didn't realize that.
3. How is that a problem exactly?? Gravemind told chief he was timeless in the fith level of halo


1, Prove it's a Shield World.
2. So the Flood just chill in the hanger for a few years without starving?
3. Well first of all you seem so amused that you thought of it and you don't really provide any real proof of the connection while others, like myself, have.

1. I don't need to it's a theory. 343 can make it a shield world if they want to.
2. Well sure. They chilled on halo for centuries starving. They are very resiliant.
3. Okay well then help me to find connection so I can revise my theory. They talk similar and they both called themselves timeless. That is not proof but thats evidence.

  • 08.20.2011 10:46 AM PDT


Posted by: grey101

Posted by: johnthethird

Posted by: grey101
no flood is on FuD.
how do you know?


How about you tell us how they got there and lasted for 4-5 years and i'll retort with a jackass sarcastic response?
Flood are very resiliant. They don't need to be constantly feeding to survive. Besides these are pure forms who don't need to go infect someone to live. If they survived centuries on halo they can survive years on a ship. And we don't know how long it was.

  • 08.20.2011 10:48 AM PDT

1. Theory not well thought out.

2. Even if it had been well thought out I would have still blew your theory out because of all the spelling mistakes since that suggests you dont care about what your writing and you most likely just want recognition for a theory that is highly unlikely at best.

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?


Posted by: johnthethird

Posted by: grey101

Posted by: johnthethird

Posted by: grey101
no flood is on FuD.
how do you know?


How about you tell us how they got there and lasted for 4-5 years and i'll retort with a jackass sarcastic response?
Flood are very resiliant. They don't need to be constantly feeding to survive. Besides these are pure forms who don't need to go infect someone to live. If they survived centuries on halo they can survive years on a ship. And we don't know how long it was.



1. how did the flood get past that large gap to the ship?

2. why didn't cortana pick them up?

3. The flood CAN NOT live in the cold fringes of space for years.

  • 08.20.2011 10:49 AM PDT

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

Posted by: johnthethird
1. I don't need to it's a theory. 343 can make it a shield world if they want to.
2. Well sure. They chilled on halo for centuries starving. They are very resiliant.
3. Okay well then help me to find connection so I can revise my theory. They talk similar and they both called themselves timeless. That is not proof but thats evidence.


1. You just said it was. If this was a theory, you would provide evidence to support this. Next time, don't make claims you can't back up.

2. Yes, in hibernation. Yet the FuD has a perfectly good human stored nearby. The Flood being on FuD makes no sense.

3. No, this is your theory, bring your own evidence. I already accept the Gravemind as the last Precursor, but you don't give much if any evidence.

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"Time was your ally human. But now it has abandoned you. The Forerunners....have returned. And this tomb... is now yours". - The Didact

Stopped reading when you said Onyx sentinels.

  • 08.20.2011 10:49 AM PDT


Posted by: johnthethird

Posted by: DecepticonCobra
[quote]Posted by: johnthethird

[quote]Posted by: DecepticonCobra
1. Why Onyx Sentinels?
2. The Flood did not get on the FuD.
3. You aren't the first to suggest the Gravemind is the Timeless One.

This theory isn't very well though out.


1. It is a Shield World
2. or maybe we just didn't realize that.
3. How is that a problem exactly?? Gravemind told chief he was timeless in the fith level of halo




I hope you realize they were in the Forerunner version of a cryopod the entire time until they were released by the Covenant during Halo 1.

[Edited on 08.20.2011 10:54 AM PDT]

  • 08.20.2011 10:51 AM PDT

If i'm a troll, i don't even want to know what you are.

If you want to make an interesting topic, use your head first. If this is some self thought story, at which it looks like, there is another forum for that.

  • 08.20.2011 10:52 AM PDT
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"Time was your ally human. But now it has abandoned you. The Forerunners....have returned. And this tomb... is now yours". - The Didact

Isn't OP the guy that was fighting half of this forum without any evidence to back his claims?

I wouldn't be surprised if it were so.

  • 08.20.2011 10:53 AM PDT


Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Posted by: johnthethird
1. I don't need to it's a theory. 343 can make it a shield world if they want to.
2. Well sure. They chilled on halo for centuries starving. They are very resiliant.
3. Okay well then help me to find connection so I can revise my theory. They talk similar and they both called themselves timeless. That is not proof but thats evidence.


1. You just said it was. If this was a theory, you would provide evidence to support this. Next time, don't make claims you can't back up.

2. Yes, in hibernation. Yet the FuD has a perfectly good human stored nearby. The Flood being on FuD makes no sense.

3. No, this is your theory, bring your own evidence. I already accept the Gravemind as the last Precursor, but you don't give much if any evidence.


1. Yes I did in my theory it does turn out to be one. There is no real telling what it is so I did my best to guess.

2. Well I put in my theory that gravemind wanted to strike a deal with master chief so he was probably controlling the flood.

3. In Cryptum the captive went missing and alot of people thought he went to the delta halo. He probably is that gravemind seeing how it is much more poetic than a regular flood. And if you don't like my theory then help change it.

  • 08.20.2011 10:54 AM PDT


Posted by: hotshot revan II
Isn't OP the guy that was fighting half of this forum without any evidence to back his claims?

I wouldn't be surprised if it were so.


Sadly, yes..

  • 08.20.2011 10:57 AM PDT


Posted by: grey101

Posted by: johnthethird

Posted by: grey101

Posted by: johnthethird

Posted by: grey101
no flood is on FuD.
how do you know?


How about you tell us how they got there and lasted for 4-5 years and i'll retort with a jackass sarcastic response?
Flood are very resiliant. They don't need to be constantly feeding to survive. Besides these are pure forms who don't need to go infect someone to live. If they survived centuries on halo they can survive years on a ship. And we don't know how long it was.



1. how did the flood get past that large gap to the ship?

2. why didn't cortana pick them up?

3. The flood CAN NOT live in the cold fringes of space for years.


1. They jumped. Flood have High jumps. Or maybe they stole some covenant or human vehicles

2. It is a damaged and cut in half ship. The radar is down

3. How do you know? Maybe they can.

  • 08.20.2011 10:57 AM PDT

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

Posted by: johnthethird

Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Posted by: johnthethird
1. I don't need to it's a theory. 343 can make it a shield world if they want to.
2. Well sure. They chilled on halo for centuries starving. They are very resiliant.
3. Okay well then help me to find connection so I can revise my theory. They talk similar and they both called themselves timeless. That is not proof but thats evidence.


1. You just said it was. If this was a theory, you would provide evidence to support this. Next time, don't make claims you can't back up.

2. Yes, in hibernation. Yet the FuD has a perfectly good human stored nearby. The Flood being on FuD makes no sense.

3. No, this is your theory, bring your own evidence. I already accept the Gravemind as the last Precursor, but you don't give much if any evidence.


1. Yes I did in my theory it does turn out to be one. There is no real telling what it is so I did my best to guess.

2. Well I put in my theory that gravemind wanted to strike a deal with master chief so he was probably controlling the flood.

3. In Cryptum the captive went missing and alot of people thought he went to the delta halo. He probably is that gravemind seeing how it is much more poetic than a regular flood. And if you don't like my theory then help change it.


Again, YOU LACK ANY EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER. A theory is a guess, but it's a guess that has evidence. There is none besides "I just guessed".

Your theory sucks and no amount of help will make it better.

  • 08.20.2011 10:58 AM PDT


Posted by: TooMuchAlcohol
If i'm a troll, i don't even want to know what you are.

If you want to make an interesting topic, use your head first. If this is some self thought story, at which it looks like, there is another forum for that.
Do you even know what a troll is? A troll is a person who goes online just to piss people off. If you are pissed off by this thread there is something wrong with you. Now if you give me something wrong with this that I can't use simple logic to overide, then I will edit my theory.

  • 08.20.2011 10:59 AM PDT

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