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Subject: The UNSC VS. all of the worlds current armies.

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A Spartan team in Gauss Warthogs, Grenade Launcher Falcons, and maybe a Tank.

The UNSC doesn't even need to go into their ships. The Spartans in those vehicles alone could probably take over the entire northern hemisphere.

  • 08.21.2011 6:38 AM PDT
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UNSC. No question.

  • 08.21.2011 6:44 AM PDT

UNSC

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Really? The UNSC?...

  • 08.21.2011 9:47 AM PDT

Derp?

The UNSC. We don't have the modern weaponry to combat an orbital siege. We have no way to defend against sub light speed projectiles being fired at us.

It would take a small fraction of their assets to destroy us.

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Posted by: goldhawk
We should know better, because we are better.

"In war, one should seek to take and hold the high ground. From there, the enemy's movements are clearly visible, and he will struggle just to reach you, let alone fight you. High orbit is the highest ground there is."

Further proof the UNSC will win. They have the high ground.

  • 08.21.2011 10:04 AM PDT

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  • 08.21.2011 10:44 AM PDT


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Posted by: fist of Rukt
MAC cannons, Spartans, pelicans... is that even a question?


Only deciding factor there is the MAC guns. Atmospheric fighters rampage their way through Pelicans, Hornets, and Falcons.

Maybe, but Pelicans, Hornets an Falcons rampage their way trough Ospreys, Apaches and Blackhawks. And Longswords, Wombats and Skyhawks rampage their way trough atmosperic fighters.

Our modern day tanks beat all UNSC vehicles except maybe the Gauss Hog... And would probably take out Spartans as well, the only thing keeping the Spartans alive being their shields.

Because Spartans would run straight at tanks... Also, UNSC marine armor is pretty much invulnerable to standard infantry weapons. Then there's ODST armor and MJOLNIR...

EDIT: Also, tanks get blown up pretty fast when you get a frigate for air support...
Isnt the scorpian a light unsc tank? How about the Grizzly?

  • 08.21.2011 10:54 AM PDT


Posted by: AngrydoG
UNSC

But saying we would get bulldozed is just plain stupid.

Spartans are strong, not invincible. Cruise Missiles still hurt, and A-10s, and Su-25s are still very very tough and have quite a good arsenal.
Arnt A-10 thunderbolts fairly slow when they are in an Air to surface engagement? Cant a simple rocket launcher or grenade launcher emp take one out?

  • 08.21.2011 10:57 AM PDT

UNSC and this is stupid.

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Posted by: ExcellentSix
Desn't the Unsc currently have about 300 million of a total population now ?
Anyways due to pretty much their ships, they can simply bombard earth from orbit with the few remaining ships they have left.

I fail to see the logic behind this matchup, anyone with a brain larger than a walnut, could easily see that the Unsc would win, due to air superiority.


Yes, I agree.

However, you're wrong on 300 million people left in UNSC. That's Earth. There is various colonies that survived during the war. For example, Minister still have 500 million left and other colony had like 300 million left as well. It was estimated to be 1-2 billion people left for UNSC.

  • 08.21.2011 11:36 AM PDT

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Posted by: Xd00999
"In war, one should seek to take and hold the high ground. From there, the enemy's movements are clearly visible, and he will struggle just to reach you, let alone fight you. High orbit is the highest ground there is."

Further proof the UNSC will win. They have the high ground.

Don't try it, Anakin!

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Posted by: goldhawk
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Posted by: Xd00999
"In war, one should seek to take and hold the high ground. From there, the enemy's movements are clearly visible, and he will struggle just to reach you, let alone fight you. High orbit is the highest ground there is."

Further proof the UNSC will win. They have the high ground.

Don't try it, Anakin!

I was thinking Kill Sat.

  • 08.21.2011 11:48 AM PDT


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Posted by: ExcellentSix
Desn't the Unsc currently have about 300 million of a total population now ?
Anyways due to pretty much their ships, they can simply bombard earth from orbit with the few remaining ships they have left.

I fail to see the logic behind this matchup, anyone with a brain larger than a walnut, could easily see that the Unsc would win, due to air superiority.


Yes, I agree.

However, you're wrong on 300 million people left in UNSC. That's Earth. There is various colonies that survived during the war. For example, Minister still have 500 million left and other colony had like 300 million left as well. It was estimated to be 1-2 billion people left for UNSC.
Yes, estimated at around 1 to 2 billion left but how many of those are UNSC trained personal? You're wrong about Minister, what you were thinking of it is Forseti, with First Strike mentioning it had half a billion people on it.

Minister was another inner colony, considering every inner colony had hundreds of millions, it's a safe bet this one had another several hundred million. Lenapi also survived, but that's all we have on that colony. Tribute also survived, and of course Harvest.

It's safe to say Minister and Forseti, having hundreds of millions on their planet, had a considerable defense fleet.
Doesn't make the UNSC seem so weak after the war now does it?

  • 08.21.2011 12:46 PM PDT

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Posted by: ThunderCavaler7
A Spartan team in Gauss Warthogs, Grenade Launcher Falcons, and maybe a Tank.

The UNSC doesn't even need to go into their ships. The Spartans in those vehicles alone could probably take over the entire northern hemisphere.


Don't be a -blam!- fanboy, an A-10 Thunderbolt, woould easily -blam!- any tanks and ground vehicles the UNSC can muster.
Spartans ? What sppartans, as far as I'm concerned aren't practicly most of them either missing or dead ?
Hell what ever air forces the UNSC could obtain would be obliterated by the myriad of fleets from all the worlds forces.
Heck doesn't the PLA have like 3 million troops in its army ?

The only reason the over glorified UNSC wins is JUST because of its orbital weaponry, at least in the short term, besides we have the advantage in numbers.

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Posted by: ExcellentSix

Posted by: ThunderCavaler7
A Spartan team in Gauss Warthogs, Grenade Launcher Falcons, and maybe a Tank.

The UNSC doesn't even need to go into their ships. The Spartans in those vehicles alone could probably take over the entire northern hemisphere.


Don't be a -blam!- fanboy, an A-10 Thunderbolt, woould easily -blam!- any tanks and ground vehicles the UNSC can muster.
Spartans ? What sppartans, as far as I'm concerned aren't practicly most of them either missing or dead ?
Hell what ever air forces the UNSC could obtain would be obliterated by the myriad of fleets from all the worlds forces.
Heck doesn't the PLA have like 3 million troops in its army ?

The only reason the over glorified UNSC wins is JUST because of its orbital weaponry, at least in the short term, besides we have the advantage in numbers.


Sure, assuming that this is going to be about the world fighting a weary war torn UNSC.

In its prime, the UNSC would be the victors by far. The numbers of the Earth's military forces today would be pale in comparison to the numbers of a military force that spans a good chunk of the galaxy. The UNSC has the resources and manpower from a great many planets with the logistics to support a campaign against present day Earth. Present day Earth only has the resources it has now and only here.

The UNSC has numbers, technology, and resources the forces of present day Earth cannot hope to muster. Just face facts. If you want to go about how one single present day unit is fantastic against so and so UNSC unit go right ahead. But in the face of a full scale war it won't mean a thing as the UNSC would outlast the present day forces. It isn't "just" because of orbital weaponry.

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Posted by: ExcellentSix
Posted by: ThunderCavaler7
A Spartan team in Gauss Warthogs, Grenade Launcher Falcons, and maybe a Tank.

The UNSC doesn't even need to go into their ships. The Spartans in those vehicles alone could probably take over the entire northern hemisphere.

Don't be a -blam!- fanboy, an A-10 Thunderbolt, woould easily -blam!- any tanks and ground vehicles the UNSC can muster.
Spartans ? What sppartans, as far as I'm concerned aren't practicly most of them either missing or dead ?
Hell what ever air forces the UNSC could obtain would be obliterated by the myriad of fleets from all the worlds forces.
Heck doesn't the PLA have like 3 million troops in its army ?

The only reason the over glorified UNSC wins is JUST because of its orbital weaponry, at least in the short term, besides we have the advantage in numbers.

Sure, assuming that this is going to be about the world fighting a weary war torn UNSC.

In its prime, the UNSC would be the victors by far. The numbers of the Earth's military forces today would be pale in comparison to the numbers of a military force that spans a good chunk of the galaxy. The UNSC has the resources and manpower from a great many planets with the logistics to support a campaign against present day Earth. Present day Earth only has the resources it has now and only here.

The UNSC has numbers, technology, and resources the forces of present day Earth cannot hope to muster. Just face facts. If you want to go about how one single present day unit is fantastic against so and so UNSC unit go right ahead. But in the face of a full scale war it won't mean a thing as the UNSC would outlast the present day forces. It isn't "just" because of orbital weaponry.

I guess it is sort of like the Spartan IIs Vs the Covenant. They were arguable the best soldiers ever fielded in the Human-Covenant war between both sides. Yet ultimately they could not win the war for Humanity straight up - There were not enough of them, and they could not take on starships. In the same sense, anything that we have just now that may happen to be better than what the UNSC has, like a few guns, vehicles or aircraft, is inconsequential.

  • 08.21.2011 1:46 PM PDT

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  • 08.21.2011 1:57 PM PDT

America could take them on single handly

  • 08.21.2011 1:58 PM PDT

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The UNSC would win...
This thread isn't the smartest one but it allows the discussion of scenarios.
Let's discuss:
Imagine a retrofitted phoenix-class carrier above Washington D.C.
How do you think the battle will play out?

  • 08.21.2011 2:53 PM PDT

Posted by: coink13
America could take them on single handly

How exactly? The US has an amazing military, yes, but it would not stand a chance against the UNSC. Let's compare the branches.

Navy: This one would be an obvious ROFLstomp in the UNSC's favor.

Air Force: Longswords would beat almost any modern day Fighter no problem. Not to mention Pelicans and Hornets would destroy modern day Helicoptors. And Pelicans are graded for vacuum.

Army: A closer match, but the UNSC wins just by merit of much stronger armor. The offensive capabilities are about the same as modern day though.

Marine Corp: UNSC wins again not just because of sheer numbers, but also superior equipment. I don't see modern day Assault Rifles firing armor piercing rounds.

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Posted by: coink13
America could take them on single handly


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Posted by: goldhawk
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Posted by: Spartan 100
The UNSC would win...
This thread isn't the smartest one but it allows the discussion of scenarios.
Let's discuss:
Imagine a retrofitted phoenix-class carrier above Washington D.C.
How do you think the battle will play out?

The Phoenix will shell the place with archer missiles while the deck guns hold off air attacks. The Phoenix will also drop massive amounts of troops who will easily take over many areas around the ship, thanks to the archer missiles destroying any significant counter attack.

  • 08.21.2011 4:50 PM PDT
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