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This thread is devoted to the speculation about the intricate workings of the female gender.


A cliche phrase is that men do not understand women at all... I think this is wrong. At least I understand them fairly well. Or at least I think I do. I am very headstrong. But I do not claim to be an expert, these are merely personal observations. Feel free to comment and critique (when I say comment and critique, I mean flame away. Especially the girls). Know that I am NOT -blam!-. I repeat. I am NOT -blam!-. I have a girlfriend. A very hot girlfriend. And we go together very well.

Also note that this may be skewed due to age. The younger the agegroup, the more relationships are based on superficialities.


Part 1:

Women are generally much more complicated than men- mentally, emotionally.

If a guy has a great deal of respect for girls in general, than it shows through via his subconscious sway on his mannerisms.

They like it when you are open about your feelings- this means you have to be in touch with your feelings. Generally, you need to assume a few fruity qualities to better your standings with girls.

You need to surpress your raging libido! Try to push sex out of your mind. Don't think of everything girl-related in terms of sex. This in time translates to your subconscious.

Also, realize that girls are less superficial than guys. I need not further explain this.


Part 2:

* This topic surfaced in psychology class today, and I realized this pertains to every day life. This is directed mostly at the guys.

Think about how you express sympathy to someone. What do you do? Do you give advice? Do you tell them about a similar occurence in your life? Or do you tell a joke or change the subject?

Generally, girls like to recieve sympathy. Now, how do you express that?

With me, its generally, "Dude, that sucks."

Turns out, girls don't much like that. Also turns out that to appeal more to females that one has to be sensitive.

So, how does one express their sympathy in a most effective way?
That is my question that I pose now... It would be different for different sorts of acquaintances.



So what does everyone think about that? Want me to theorize on any other questions? I apologize for how disorganized it is... I'm tired.

  • 09.07.2004 10:17 PM PDT
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i think that this will be locked for the following reasons,

1- way to long
2- to many big words and complete sentences
3- inapropreate(spelling)

  • 09.07.2004 10:20 PM PDT
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Women are more highly evolved than men. It's that simple.

  • 09.07.2004 10:20 PM PDT
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Look a GIRL

  • 09.07.2004 10:22 PM PDT
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Posted by: Surge
Women are more highly evolved than men. It's that simple.


In what respect?

As a general rule, things aren't "higher evolved" than other things. They have different adaptations for different situations, but there isn't a scale of "most evolved" and "least evolved."

I have the terrible habit of being extremely judging of women. I'm pretty undiscriminating on who I'll sleep with, but my criteria for women I actually like is rather harsh.

So, any of my opinions about them will probably be warped and overly harsh.

  • 09.07.2004 10:25 PM PDT
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Posted by: ObbiQuiet
Posted by: Surge
Women are more highly evolved than men. It's that simple.


In what respect?

As a general rule, things aren't "higher evolved" than other things. They have different adaptations for different situations, but there isn't a scale of "most evolved" and "least evolved."

I have the terrible habit of being extremely judging of women. I'm pretty undiscriminating on who I'll sleep with, but my criteria for women I actually like is rather harsh.

So, any of my opinions about them will probably be warped and overly harsh.


Well, I am basing it more on physical observation that most other things, and I was partly sarcastic. That's just how I see things.

  • 09.07.2004 10:28 PM PDT
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Posted by: flamechu
i think that this will be locked for the following reasons,

1- way to long
2- to many big words and complete sentences
3- inapropreate(spelling)


How is this innapropriate? I know its quite retarded, but all references to anything sensual were meant in the most professional, psychological way possible.

I also fail to see how length, big words, and fairly well done grammar are grounds to justify locking a thread.

  • 09.07.2004 10:31 PM PDT
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Oh, and the part about girls being less superficial is iffy. I polled 25 girls and 25 guys on the topic of relationships. The girls tended to be much, MUCH more shallow than the guys.

  • 09.07.2004 10:36 PM PDT
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Posted by: ObbiQuiet
Oh, and the part about girls being less superficial is iffy. I polled 25 girls and 25 guys on the topic of relationships. The girls tended to be much, MUCH more shallow than the guys.


I think that guys tend to lie about things because we think it's what they want to hear. Girls are just more honest.

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So, how does one express their sympathy in a most effective way?

By talking to them. I refrain from saying "I'm sorry," or "that sucks" when a girl talks to me about something bad that happens. I'll show it on my face that I'm sympathetic, but I don't actually say it. How I do show it is I listen to what they have to say.

One of the typical mistakes guys make is they ask, "Want to talk about it?" Of course they want to talk about it, but some might suddenly consider it as burdening you, which some girls don't want to do. The best approach I find is to ask questions. Ask what happened, ask why things particularily hurt her, stuff like that. Don't EVER assume something, let her tell you it first. Not only is it a relief, but it helps them sort out whatever is bothering them.

Don't add your own thoughts until she asks you what you think.

Master listening and your relationships with women will improve.

  • 09.07.2004 10:43 PM PDT
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Posted by: Surge
Posted by: ObbiQuiet
Oh, and the part about girls being less superficial is iffy. I polled 25 girls and 25 guys on the topic of relationships. The girls tended to be much, MUCH more shallow than the guys.


I think that guys tend to lie about things because we think it's what they want to hear. Girls are just more honest.

Girls are honest to both men and women, while guys are honest to just guys.

  • 09.07.2004 10:44 PM PDT
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Posted by: Surge
Posted by: ObbiQuiet
Oh, and the part about girls being less superficial is iffy. I polled 25 girls and 25 guys on the topic of relationships. The girls tended to be much, MUCH more shallow than the guys.


I think that guys tend to lie about things because we think it's what they want to hear. Girls are just more honest.


I think it doesn't sway one way or the other in this case, since it can be possibly explained by the age-group of the students polled. These were mostly juniors and seniors. Girls of that age COULD be more realistic and realize it's just 'play time.'

  • 09.07.2004 10:44 PM PDT

Devil is Double is Deuce and Joker always trumps Deuce.

Posted by: ObbiQuiet
Posted by: Surge
Posted by: ObbiQuiet
Oh, and the part about girls being less superficial is iffy. I polled 25 girls and 25 guys on the topic of relationships. The girls tended to be much, MUCH more shallow than the guys.


I think that guys tend to lie about things because we think it's what they want to hear. Girls are just more honest.


I think it doesn't sway one way or the other in this case, since it can be possibly explained by the age-group of the students polled. These were mostly juniors and seniors. Girls of that age COULD be more realistic and realize it's just 'play time.'


Can't we all just ................. get along?














Hell no.

  • 09.07.2004 10:50 PM PDT
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I commend you Obbi on your sensible, yet informative comments. It's actually the first time I've seen you post something that seems reasonable to debate upon. The thoeries being presented are quite intriguing to read, I must say.

  • 09.07.2004 10:54 PM PDT
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Posted by: MCs Brother
Posted by: ObbiQuiet
Posted by: Surge
Posted by: ObbiQuiet
Oh, and the part about girls being less superficial is iffy. I polled 25 girls and 25 guys on the topic of relationships. The girls tended to be much, MUCH more shallow than the guys.


I think that guys tend to lie about things because we think it's what they want to hear. Girls are just more honest.


I think it doesn't sway one way or the other in this case, since it can be possibly explained by the age-group of the students polled. These were mostly juniors and seniors. Girls of that age COULD be more realistic and realize it's just 'play time.'


Can't we all just ................. get along?

Hell no.


Well, it certainly makes things interesting. How boring would it be if we knew exactly what the other sex was thinking?

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So, basically, showing sympathy for something is generally having an interest to talk about it. Lets say you run into a girl you kinda know someplace like a hallway at school. She seems distressed. A great way to show some sympathy is to just ask her, "Do you have time to talk about it?"

Also, for the love of God, don't make a move on her.

  • 09.07.2004 10:56 PM PDT

Devil is Double is Deuce and Joker always trumps Deuce.

Posted by: ObbiQuiet

Also, for the love of God, don't make a move on her.


<scribbles that out of notes>

Damn.

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Posted by: Celenon
I commend you Obbi on your sensible, yet informative comments. It's actually the first time I've seen you post something that seems reasonable to debate upon. The thoeries being presented are quite intriguing to read, I must say.


Heh, I'm quite serious and composed in real life.

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A great way to show some sympathy is to just ask her, "Do you have time to talk about it?"

So we have to say it like that? Or can it be a little more masculine like, "You look down. What's up?"

Or is that too masculine for the girl to open up to you?

  • 09.07.2004 10:59 PM PDT

Devil is Double is Deuce and Joker always trumps Deuce.

WTF is wrong with a good old fashioned "what's wrong?"

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WTF is wrong with a good old fashioned "what's wrong?"

It's probably too blunt a question when dealing with a woman's feelings. It may end up sounding a little fruity, but you have to ask them what's wrong like a girl would want to hear it.

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Posted by: Celenon
A great way to show some sympathy is to just ask her, "Do you have time to talk about it?"

So we have to say it like that? Or can it be a little more masculine like, "You look down. What's up?"

Or is that too masculine for the girl to open up to you?


I have no idea. I'm rather feminine, so that's how I would approach it (being raised in a family of girls, who can blame me?). I haven't experimented approaching it any other way.

I'd say do it however you feel natural doing it.

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Posted by: Celenon
WTF is wrong with a good old fashioned "what's wrong?"

It's probably too blunt a question when dealing with a woman's feelings. It may end up sounding a little fruity, but you have to ask them what's wrong like a girl would want to hear it.


I dont' see why it wouldn't work. I typically just ask "what happened?"
-answer-
"Do you have time to talk about it?"

And, when you talk to her, try to be as objective as possible.

  • 09.07.2004 11:05 PM PDT
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There are many things that men have to remember when dealing with the fairer sex that many have a problem with. But regardless, it comes down to how well you know her and how to play off your own most endearing traits and qualities. If you feel the need to be 'butch' and manly go for it, many women like that, just try not to come off as an ass. I've seen it far too often.

[Edited on 9/7/2004 11:08:07 PM]

  • 09.07.2004 11:06 PM PDT
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I dont' see why it wouldn't work. I typically just ask "what happened?"
-answer-
"Do you have time to talk about it?"

And, when you talk to her, try to be as objective as possible.


Sounds good. And as long as you dont end it with something like,

"Well, you wanna come to a party with me to get over the ordeal? Then we can go back to my place for coffee later."

Then you're A-OK

  • 09.07.2004 11:08 PM PDT

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