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  • 08.24.2011 10:00 AM PDT

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We'll find out when the game comes out, or we'll find out it's not explained at any point in the game. Either way, there won't be an answer until November...

  • 08.24.2011 10:03 AM PDT

We take your unwanted prisoners, then we execute them....

He probably thoght they were reclaimers until the master chief came along

  • 08.24.2011 10:20 AM PDT

isnt it suppose to be a remake? They never explained it in the original..

  • 08.24.2011 10:23 AM PDT

Similar tech to the Forerunners? Engineers?

No clue really but GS would obviously know that the Covies weren't reclaimers.

  • 08.24.2011 10:45 AM PDT

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Posted by: Chicano3000
isnt it suppose to be a remake? They never explained it in the original..


An explanation wasn't needed back then. The concept of a Halo ring having active defense systems (when a Flood outbreak wasn't present) didn't exist 10 years ago.

Now with the terminals added in for backstory, more of that stuff can be added without altering the main storyline. The first terminal shown at Gamscom shows that Sparks could've shot down the Autumn if he pleased had he not known there were Humans aboard. Of course this leaves the question why he didn't have the Sentinels fry the Covenant ships. Until the game actually comes out in November, no one here will have an answer to such a question until all the terminals are examined to see if an answer to that exists if at all.

  • 08.24.2011 10:48 AM PDT

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Posted by: Chicano3000
isnt it suppose to be a remake? They never explained it in the original..

They never explained why he let humans on in the original either.

Truthfully, I'd guess that the Covenant bypassed them or counteracted them. I'm thinking about that part in the Ark where the Covenant loyalists are being attacked by an onslaught of sentinels, but the sentinels leave the humans alone.

  • 08.24.2011 10:48 AM PDT

I would assume that because the librarian had cataloged the covenant species guilty spark was able to recognize them as non-flood and he let them wonder installation 04, but it is only humans that can be reclaimers.

  • 08.24.2011 10:50 AM PDT

"On the seventh day, god did not rest, but rather he created 64 player multiplayer!"

I'm pretty much doubting we'll get an answer to that.

Sequel after sequel since Halo 1, I've been told through various interviews and ViDocs that HALO 2 will answer all your questions...but instead it created more...then it was HALO 3 that will tie up all the loose ends and answer EVERYTHING because, you know, it's the LAST GAME. I don't really count ODST here specifically but, then it was REACH that came out to answer all of the BEFORE THE HALO RINGS questions, but instead, that created canon conflicts along with more questions.

It's a never ending cycle of creating more questions than you're answering with each new game...ugh!!

  • 08.24.2011 12:41 PM PDT

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Weren't the Covenant seen as not a threat? Meddling, tinkering beings I thought they were considered?

I might be looking into things wrong, but I remember it being stated somewhere that the Covenant weren't a threat because all they did was tinker around.

  • 08.24.2011 12:44 PM PDT

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Posted by: King Nis085
Weren't the Covenant seen as not a threat? Meddling, tinkering beings I thought they were considered?

I might be looking into things wrong, but I remember it being stated somewhere that the Covenant weren't a threat because all they did was tinker around.


It wouldn't be the case considering that Sparks uses the term negatively due to the Covenant's nature in forcefully gaining access to restricted areas. Dialogue mainly from Halo CE's Library level and the Ark levels in Halo 3, plus the actions of Sentinels in Halo's 1-3, make it clear that the Covenant were indeed seen and identified as a threat for their 'meddling'.

Again, it was never explained or justified why the Covenant were able to land on Halo without being attacked back in the CE days because there was no need for it in the first place. From our perspective back then both Human and Covenant landed without being attacked or even encountering Sentinels until the Flood broke out. Thus there was never a need to create an explanation as to why Spark let the Covenant land versus the Autumn. The concept of ship clearance (and many other things surrounding the Forerunners and their tech, protocol, etc for that matter) just didn't exist in canon at the time.

You yourself saw the Gamescom footage of the first terminal. In terms of present canon it's only now being stated that 343 GS allowed the Autumn to land on Halo because of the revelation that its crew was comprised of humans. Prior to that he was ready to have Halo's defenses rip the Autumn to shreds had it not turned back regardless of the ship's intent.

While that's fine and dandy for the Autumn and does not change anything for the main original storyline (as this new revelation occurs and is contained to an unseen perspective much like that of Silva's troops) it does open up a new line of questioning. The question now is 'Why the Covenant was not attacked on sight for approaching and landing on Halo in light of this new backstory information?' Ultimately that is a question that can only be answered through the very terminals that brought about this new question.

Long story short. There's no point in looking for an explanation (established in any of the pieces of canon currently available) as to why the Covenant were let through because the concept of needing permission did not exist until new information from the terminals showing Spark's self contained side story in CEA showed up. So the answer would only be found there.

  • 08.24.2011 1:48 PM PDT

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  • 08.24.2011 2:32 PM PDT

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  • 08.24.2011 6:38 PM PDT

If I remember correctly 343 Guilty Spark only came along due to the release of the flood. It even says at the beginning of the trailer that he was in extended hibernation and that exceptions will be made for major and profound events, ie the flood release.

  • 08.24.2011 6:51 PM PDT

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  • 08.24.2011 7:12 PM PDT

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He probably thoght they were reclaimers until the master chief came along

  • 08.24.2011 7:20 PM PDT

My theory is that since the Pillar of Autumn didn't land in the designated zone, plus let loose a bunch of escape pods, Spark may have widened the "hole" in the defenses to let them in. And when this "hole" opened the Covenant slipped in at the same time as the Pillar.

  • 08.24.2011 7:31 PM PDT

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I began to wonder why after seeing the trailer for the terminals

  • 08.24.2011 7:42 PM PDT