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Subject: Warthog confirmed in Halo 4: Obvious confirmation of UNSC in H4? EDIT!

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Link, from wired.com

Video confirming it

Thanks to BlueRuby2k10 for supplying the youtube video.


Above is the link that shows the Warthog will be in Halo 4. Do you think this is an obvious confirmation that the UNSC will be featured as a key player in the story, and also, what do you think the story is now like?

Looking at the warthog, it certainly has evolved. What concerns me most is that they now feature 4 red gas containers on the back, I really hope this is just for the visual appeal. I'm deeply concerned there is no gas mechanics, or else I'm walking or riding covenant vehicles a lot.

Thoughts?

New Edit

Obviously, some people did not read the article. Wired.com is an extremely trusted news source. I quote from the article "Hidden deep within Forza's Fourth Installment, to be released Oct. 11, will be an in-depth look at the Warthog design that will be used in the upcoming Halo 4." It then goes on to say "(which Microsoft says will be a well-hidden Easter egg)".

Notice how it says "will be used in...Halo 4", with a confirming statement in conjunction with Microsoft. You should NOT be arguing about whether this iconic vehicle will be in this game, but whether the UNSC will be.


New New edit!

The video above shows that the hog is in Halo 4. So I think that shows UNSC will obviously be in the game. But take your pick!


[Edited on 08.28.2011 3:17 PM PDT]

  • 08.26.2011 11:22 AM PDT
Subject: Warthog confirmed to be in Halo 4: Obvious confirmation of UNSC in H4?

I honestly hope it's a warthog from the In Amber Clad hanger, and not a UNSC base. Or if it's a UNSC base, it's from the Spirit of Fire or another crashed base and the UNSC as a whole doesn't know about the planet.

  • 08.26.2011 11:26 AM PDT

I am Field Master Avu Med 'Telcam, Servant of the Abiding Truth, and I have many brothers.

A god who creates tools is still a god. It is not for us to impose qualifications upon the divine or presume to guess its intentions.

Cortana did mention it was the 2554 UNSC Warthog, which indicates

1. Halo 4 will take place in 2554

2. UNSC will be present in some way, considering we have the most up to date model.

  • 08.26.2011 11:27 AM PDT
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Why hello there.

Master chief was in a massive military frigate when he arrives at the legendary planet. It could just be found on the ship.

  • 08.26.2011 11:27 AM PDT

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Posted by: matman25402
1. Halo 4 will take place in 2554


Lolno. The Dawn is still adrift by 2556, as Cortana states she is 7 years old in Halo Legends: Origins.

2. UNSC will be present in some way, considering we have the most up to date model.

Or it's just a graphical update for the Warthog in the Dawn's hangar...

  • 08.26.2011 11:30 AM PDT

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How is it confirmed?

It's just a forza 4 feature.

  • 08.26.2011 11:33 AM PDT

"A LIE is a LIE"


- Truly intelligent and deep Black ops trailer


Posted by: matman25402

2. UNSC will be present in some way, considering we have the most up to date model.


Erm, no. This is most likely to be artistic license.

  • 08.26.2011 11:34 AM PDT


Posted by: Pipboy 3050

Posted by: matman25402

2. UNSC will be present in some way, considering we have the most up to date model.


Erm, no. This is most likely to be artistic license.


Looking at it, parts seem modified. Like perhaps Chief recovered one of the warthogs in the hanger and added those roll-bars/extra fuel tanks/light on the windshield.

  • 08.26.2011 11:36 AM PDT

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Posted by: ajw34307

Posted by: matman25402
1. Halo 4 will take place in 2554


Lolno. The Dawn is still adrift by 2556, as Cortana states she is 7 years old in Halo Legends: Origins.

2. UNSC will be present in some way, considering we have the most up to date model.

Or it's just a graphical update for the Warthog in the Dawn's hangar...


1. Many parts of what Cortana says and shows in Origins were pretty much wrong. Not to mention we don't have an official date for Cortana's "creation".

2. I guess you didn't hear me the first time. She calls it the 2554 UNSC Warthog. 2554.

Edit, looked it up in Halsey's Journal. But still, the fact that she calls it the 2554 UNSC warthog is enough evidence for me to believe there will be UNSC present. But yes, Halo 4 won't be 2554.

[Edited on 08.26.2011 11:45 AM PDT]

  • 08.26.2011 11:37 AM PDT

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Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
I honestly hope it's a warthog from the In Amber Clad hanger, and not a UNSC base. Or if it's a UNSC base, it's from the Spirit of Fire or another crashed base and the UNSC as a whole doesn't know about the planet.

This.

  • 08.26.2011 11:44 AM PDT

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Posted by: matman25402
1. Many parts of what Cortana says and shows in Origins were pretty much wrong. Not to mention we don't have an official date for Cortana's "creation".


Yes we do, in Halsey's Journal the creation date for Cortana is 2549. The only thing that's wrong about Cortana's interpretations in origins are aesthetics and a few story details which she says herself she can "only guess at".

2. I guess you didn't hear me the first time. She calls it the 2554 UNSC Warthog. 2554.

So you're taking this as canon when it's from another game that has nothing at all to do with the Halo universe... -_-

  • 08.26.2011 11:44 AM PDT

"On the seventh day, god did not rest, but rather he created 64 player multiplayer!"

So you can't even drive it around in Forza? What's the point of it being there then? Kind of lame...

  • 08.26.2011 11:48 AM PDT

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A god who creates tools is still a god. It is not for us to impose qualifications upon the divine or presume to guess its intentions.


Posted by: ajw34307
Yes we do, in Halsey's Journal the creation date for Cortana is 2549. The only thing that's wrong about Cortana's interpretations in origins are aesthetics and a few story details which she says herself she can "only guess at".

If you notice I edited my post. I looked that up, but still Cortana is wrong.
She depicts the Covenant and UNSC allying to eliminate the Flood, which didn't happen. She shows an infected Hierarch giving orders to Thel before he becomes an Arbiter, which also makes no sense.

Posted by: ajw34307
So you're taking this as canon when it's from another game that has nothing at all to do with the Halo universe... -_-
It was posted on 343i's website. It is canon, and most certainly if you watched the video it has a lot to do with the Halo Universe.

[Edited on 08.26.2011 11:49 AM PDT]

  • 08.26.2011 11:48 AM PDT

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What's the damn point of having it in a racing game if we can't use it to race?

  • 08.26.2011 11:51 AM PDT

Oh hey there

Posted by: petarded2
It's a metaphor for the 07s' lack of identity. too old to be newfa­g, yet too new to be oldfa­g, we wander b.net in search of a home, forever trying to be something we are not.

For now I assume it came from the hangar of the Dawn. Just like most of your beginning weapons will.

Until we meet our new foe.

  • 08.26.2011 11:51 AM PDT

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Posted by: matman25402

Right, so according to your logic here, Forza is canon to the Halo universe now, is it?

  • 08.26.2011 11:57 AM PDT

The warthog model (M12 force application vehicle) was not built in 2554.

The event she references has the cole protocol mentioned. Post halo 3 it'd be a moot point.

So, The date, the full name, and the event don't match up.

  • 08.26.2011 12:00 PM PDT

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To respond to anybody saying "Graphic Update" or "Poetic Licencing": The one part I don't understand is the gasoline containers. Granted, I seriously doubt we will be using gasoline past the year 2150, but it is concerning.

Also, I understand that the frigate would be housing military equipment. However, being exposed to the conditions of space (along with the massive explosions the ship seems to go through during the teaser trailer) causes me to seriously doubt any large vehicles are salvageable from the craft.

  • 08.26.2011 12:06 PM PDT

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A god who creates tools is still a god. It is not for us to impose qualifications upon the divine or presume to guess its intentions.


Posted by: ajw34307

Posted by: matman25402

Right, so according to your logic here, Forza is canon to the Halo universe now, is it?
Are you deaf, blind, or both?

  • 08.26.2011 12:09 PM PDT

Oh hey there

Posted by: petarded2
It's a metaphor for the 07s' lack of identity. too old to be newfa­g, yet too new to be oldfa­g, we wander b.net in search of a home, forever trying to be something we are not.

Posted by: rr2157
To respond to anybody saying "Graphic Update" or "Poetic Licencing": The one part I don't understand is the gasoline containers. Granted, I seriously doubt we will be using gasoline past the year 2150, but it is concerning.
They are not gasoline containers.
ICE-powered vehicleICE being, some kind of hydrogen powered engine. In fact if you look at the specs at the beginning and end of the Forza video it says just that.

  • 08.26.2011 12:15 PM PDT


Posted by: rr2157
To respond to anybody saying "Graphic Update" or "Poetic Licencing": The one part I don't understand is the gasoline containers. Granted, I seriously doubt we will be using gasoline past the year 2150, but it is concerning.

Also, I understand that the frigate would be housing military equipment. However, being exposed to the conditions of space (along with the massive explosions the ship seems to go through during the teaser trailer) causes me to seriously doubt any large vehicles are salvageable from the craft.


A: Those are fuel tanks, not gasoline. Warthogs run off water.
B: Is it really that hard to imagine a useable warthog being in the wreckage? I'm fairly sure the explosions in the teaser were just for show. There is nothing that could cause such drastic explosions out of the blue on board.

  • 08.26.2011 12:16 PM PDT

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Posted by: matman25402
Now tell me where it says "this is the Warthog that will be in Halo 4"... What you're saying is like saying Nicole from DOA4 is canon, it's not.

[quote]Cortana walks you through some of the finer points of the 2554 M12 FAV (Force Application Vehichle) "Warthog" coming your way in the upcoming Forza Motorsport 4.


Nope, no confirmation that this is going to be in Halo 4, nor that there will be any UNSC or what-not.

[Edited on 08.26.2011 12:20 PM PDT]

  • 08.26.2011 12:19 PM PDT

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Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
The warthog model (M12 force application vehicle) was not built in 2554.

2554 could be a differential between existing models.

Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
The event she references has the cole protocol mentioned. Post halo 3 it'd be a moot point.

She might not be talking about that line of Warthogs, but in the model in general.

[Edited on 08.26.2011 1:11 PM PDT]

  • 08.26.2011 12:20 PM PDT
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  • 08.26.2011 12:23 PM PDT

I am Field Master Avu Med 'Telcam, Servant of the Abiding Truth, and I have many brothers.

A god who creates tools is still a god. It is not for us to impose qualifications upon the divine or presume to guess its intentions.

Quote fail? But I'll go with it anyway. I see you've resorted to bringing up something completely off topic and putting words in my mouth about it, but yes, Nicole, the person, is canon.. Regardless, that has nothing to do with this thread, and I have no idea why you brought it up.

  • 08.26.2011 12:25 PM PDT