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Subject: Warthog confirmed to be in Halo 4: Obvious confirmation of UNSC in H4?


Posted by: superiorarsenal
What I have learned is that bashing or making rude remarks about your opponent don't help your case. If someone does not understand something correctly, try presenting it in manners that they can. Don't jump from trying to explain it one way to calling them names for not understanding, especially if you have tried no other ways of getting your point across.


also, throwing out insults makes you look dumb, and kills open-mindedness with your opponent. Therefore, no winner, just the guy who walks away laughing XD

  • 08.27.2011 1:10 PM PDT

@accordingto343

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Posted by: Dark Shinobi 93

Posted by: superiorarsenal
What I have learned is that bashing or making rude remarks about your opponent don't help your case. If someone does not understand something correctly, try presenting it in manners that they can. Don't jump from trying to explain it one way to calling them names for not understanding, especially if you have tried no other ways of getting your point across.


also, throwing out insults makes you look dumb, and kills open-mindedness with your opponent. Therefore, no winner, just the guy who walks away laughing XD


Meh, I do that every visit here. Admittedly though you guys aren't the worse people to come here.

  • 08.27.2011 1:11 PM PDT

The canon gang: There will be NO UNSC forces in Halo 4!

Me: They have to be in order for this game to be consistent with the rest of the franchise of games.

The canon gang: You're an idiot. There is concrete evidence showing that the UNSC will not be in Halo 4!

Me: And there is solid evidence as to WHY they'll be in Halo 4. What is it? A big, fat concept art image shown at HaloFest featuring a long, bulky ship with the words "UNSC" written on its hull.

The canon gang: Halo 4 will suck!!! The UNSC are in the game, that means it's a cash-grabbing rehash!!

/Summary of this second iteration of the Vietnam War

The weird thing is, I'm barely exaggerating what has been said.

[Edited on 08.27.2011 1:14 PM PDT]

  • 08.27.2011 1:12 PM PDT

Jesus Cobra, are you rude in every thread you post in?

  • 08.27.2011 1:13 PM PDT

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

Posted by: ctjl96
Jesus Cobra, are you rude in every thread you post in?

Guess you'll be busy with the report button then?

  • 08.27.2011 1:14 PM PDT
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@Blue

CONCEPT art. That doesn't mean that it will be in the game. The game is still a year away and people are taking the concept art as if it were concrete evidence of things in the game.

  • 08.27.2011 1:17 PM PDT

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

Posted by: superiorarsenal
@Blue

CONCEPT art. That doesn't mean that it will be in the game. The game is still a year away and people are taking the concept art as if it were concrete evidence of things in the game.


Some folks don't get that. Every Halo game had concept art and not everything makes the cut.

  • 08.27.2011 1:18 PM PDT


Posted by: superiorarsenal
@Blue

CONCEPT art. That doesn't mean that it will be in the game. The game is still a year away and people are taking the concept art as if it were concrete evidence of things in the game.


Okay, so you're telling me that since 343 put up an image featuring a big UNSC ship on a Halo 4 board at the most important Halo event of the year, it's not a decent indication that the faction will appear in the game?

Definition of concept: A plan or intention; a conception.

[Edited on 08.27.2011 1:20 PM PDT]

  • 08.27.2011 1:19 PM PDT


Posted by: superiorarsenal
@Blue

CONCEPT art. That doesn't mean that it will be in the game. The game is still a year away and people are taking the concept art as if it were concrete evidence of things in the game.

true, that

  • 08.27.2011 1:20 PM PDT
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Let's wait for another trailer before we go about claiming what will be and what won't be in the game, shall we?

  • 08.27.2011 1:20 PM PDT

My Grandfather was a Desert Ranger, my Father was a Veteran Ranger in the NCR. My father was killed by Caesar's Legion and they took my Brother. It's now my responsibility to uphold the mantle of the Rangers and avenge my Father and find my Brother.

Maybe they made it look a little bit different for Forza?

  • 08.27.2011 1:20 PM PDT


Posted by: Dark Shinobi 93

Posted by: DecepticonCobra

Based on EXISTING GAMES made by 343, halo wars, anyone? Gameplay wasen't bad, but they -blam!- up the halo story with it. if they -blam!- with the story on this one however, gameplay will fall. Understand? not trying to be a dick here.


I hope you know ENSEMBLE Studios made Halo Wars and was given help by Bungie, not sure if 343 was actually around yet. And the story isn't -blam!- up.


it was. if Flood got ahold of a marine, guess what? Flood would have invaded Earth AGES ago. the entire story would never happened. period.


Flood getting hold of a marine does not magically grant them the ability to make slipspace jumps. I also doubt the marines would know the coordinates of Earth and other colonies by heart.



Posted by: BlueRuby2k10
The canon gang: There will be NO UNSC forces in Halo 4!

Me: They have to be in order for this game to be consistent with the rest of the franchise of games.


Why? Why would chief landing on a forerunner world and not having unsc weapons all the time be so foreign?

Seriously it sounds like you are saying 'Halo games must have UNSC or it isn't halo.'

Guess you don't like cryptum? UNSC isn't in it.

  • 08.27.2011 1:20 PM PDT

Bacon for all !!!!!!!!!!!111111111111

they said it will be a well hidden easter egg, therefore it does not guarantee that the UNSC will be in H4

  • 08.27.2011 1:21 PM PDT

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

Posted by: BlueRuby2k10

Posted by: superiorarsenal
@Blue

CONCEPT art. That doesn't mean that it will be in the game. The game is still a year away and people are taking the concept art as if it were concrete evidence of things in the game.


Okay, so you're telling me that since 343 put up an image featuring a big UNSC ship on a Halo 4 board at the most important Halo event of the year, it's not a decent indication that the faction will appear in the game?

Definition of concept: A plan or intention; a conception.

And not all concepts get passed.

  • 08.27.2011 1:22 PM PDT


Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron

Posted by: Dark Shinobi 93

Posted by: DecepticonCobra

Based on EXISTING GAMES made by 343, halo wars, anyone? Gameplay wasen't bad, but they -blam!- up the halo story with it. if they -blam!- with the story on this one however, gameplay will fall. Understand? not trying to be a dick here.


I hope you know ENSEMBLE Studios made Halo Wars and was given help by Bungie, not sure if 343 was actually around yet. And the story isn't -blam!- up.


it was. if Flood got ahold of a marine, guess what? Flood would have invaded Earth AGES ago. the entire story would never happened. period.


Flood getting hold of a marine does not magically grant them the ability to make slipspace jumps. I also doubt the marines would know the coordinates of Earth and other colonies by heart.



Posted by: BlueRuby2k10
The canon gang: There will be NO UNSC forces in Halo 4!

Me: They have to be in order for this game to be consistent with the rest of the franchise of games.


Why? Why would chief landing on a forerunner world and not having unsc weapons all the time be so foreign?

Seriously it sounds like you are saying 'Halo games must have UNSC or it isn't halo.'

Guess you don't like cryptum? UNSC isn't in it.


All of the games have featured that faction. They're a completely necessary part in the games. To change up the formula completely would not only divide the community but it'd be a poor business decision as well.

  • 08.27.2011 1:22 PM PDT


Posted by: BlueRuby2k10

Posted by: superiorarsenal
@Blue

CONCEPT art. That doesn't mean that it will be in the game. The game is still a year away and people are taking the concept art as if it were concrete evidence of things in the game.


Okay, so you're telling me that since 343 put up an image featuring a big UNSC ship on a Halo 4 board at the most important Halo event of the year, it's not a decent indication that the faction will appear in the game?

Definition of concept: A plan or intention; a conception.


dont get me wrong, i WANT the whole gang back, because the game would suck otherwise, but still concept art is still only concept art.

  • 08.27.2011 1:23 PM PDT


Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
The warthog model (M12 force application vehicle) was not built in 2554.

The event she references has the cole protocol mentioned. Post halo 3 it'd be a moot point.

So, The date, the full name, and the event don't match up.

But the event took place before Halo 3, so the Cole Prot' would have been in affect.

  • 08.27.2011 1:24 PM PDT

Don't -blam!- with Kerser!

Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron

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Posted by: matman25402

2. UNSC will be present in some way, considering we have the most up to date model.


Erm, no. This is most likely to be artistic license.


Looking at it, parts seem modified. Like perhaps Chief recovered one of the warthogs in the hanger and added those roll-bars/extra fuel tanks/light on the windshield.


It's funny when stupid people comment crap like this without watching Frankie's PAX interview...

  • 08.27.2011 1:26 PM PDT
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I could see the UNSC comming in 1/2 way through Halo 5. I think Halo 4 is focusing more on Master Chief and Cortana being alone and stranded, uncoviering mysteries that could have a devastating effect on the galaxy.

  • 08.27.2011 1:27 PM PDT


Posted by: BlueRuby2k10

All of the games have featured that faction. They're a completely necessary part in the games. To change up the formula completely would not only divide the community but it'd be a poor business decision as well.

THERE! RIGHT THERE! this is what i've been saying!

[Edited on 08.27.2011 1:28 PM PDT]

  • 08.27.2011 1:28 PM PDT


Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Posted by: BlueRuby2k10

Posted by: superiorarsenal
@Blue

CONCEPT art. That doesn't mean that it will be in the game. The game is still a year away and people are taking the concept art as if it were concrete evidence of things in the game.


Okay, so you're telling me that since 343 put up an image featuring a big UNSC ship on a Halo 4 board at the most important Halo event of the year, it's not a decent indication that the faction will appear in the game?

Definition of concept: A plan or intention; a conception.

And not all concepts get passed.


You're an idiot. 343 MORE THAN LIKELY has the story for Halo 4 written and planned out. If the cutscene Halo4Follower showed was made by 343, this proves it. (not to mention it's direct confirmation of the UNSC's presence)
The concept art image was probably drawn in reference to the already outlined story.
the fact that you're denying this completely concrete piece of evidence, one again, I say SHOWN at HaloFest is despicable.

  • 08.27.2011 1:28 PM PDT

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

Posted by: SteroidKloud

It's funny when stupid people comment crap like this without watching Frankie's PAX interview...


And people say I'm a jerk.

  • 08.27.2011 1:28 PM PDT


Posted by: BlueRuby2k10

Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Posted by: BlueRuby2k10

Posted by: superiorarsenal
@Blue

CONCEPT art. That doesn't mean that it will be in the game. The game is still a year away and people are taking the concept art as if it were concrete evidence of things in the game.


Okay, so you're telling me that since 343 put up an image featuring a big UNSC ship on a Halo 4 board at the most important Halo event of the year, it's not a decent indication that the faction will appear in the game?

Definition of concept: A plan or intention; a conception.

And not all concepts get passed.


You're an idiot. 343 MORE THAN LIKELY has the story for Halo 4 written and planned out. If the cutscene Halo4Follower showed was made by 343, this proves it. (not to mention it's direct confirmation of the UNSC's presence)
The concept art image was probably drawn in reference to the already outlined story.
the fact that you're denying this completely concrete piece of evidence, one again, I say SHOWN at HaloFest is despicable.


Hey bud, dont start, he's a troll, or a little kid, something angry... idk

  • 08.27.2011 1:31 PM PDT


Posted by: SteroidKloud
Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron

Posted by: Pipboy 3050

Posted by: matman25402

2. UNSC will be present in some way, considering we have the most up to date model.


Erm, no. This is most likely to be artistic license.


Looking at it, parts seem modified. Like perhaps Chief recovered one of the warthogs in the hanger and added those roll-bars/extra fuel tanks/light on the windshield.


It's funny when stupid people comment crap like this without watching Frankie's PAX interview...


Can I have a link? Haven't seen it yet.

  • 08.27.2011 1:31 PM PDT


Posted by: superiorarsenal
I could see the UNSC comming in 1/2 way through Halo 5. I think Halo 4 is focusing more on Master Chief and Cortana being alone and stranded, uncoviering mysteries that could have a devastating effect on the galaxy.


yea thats what i'm thinking

  • 08.27.2011 1:31 PM PDT