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Subject: Warthog confirmed in Halo 4: Obvious confirmation of UNSC in H4? EDIT!


Posted by: BlueRuby2k10

Posted by: Xx Anaki xX
Actually, the 2554 Warthog shipped at the end of 2552 meaning that the Halo 4 warthog would be in the FoD's bay. So it does not prove UNSC presence in Halo 4.

Frankie confirms it on Halo Fests Halo 4 panel.
27:20


Yay for a camping trip at the 'Dawn with only being able to use the Warthog at the start of missions with no gunner, making it completely useless!


I really, really fail to see how you come at that conclusion of a camping trip.

  • 08.30.2011 10:27 PM PDT


Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron

Posted by: BlueRuby2k10

Posted by: Xx Anaki xX
Actually, the 2554 Warthog shipped at the end of 2552 meaning that the Halo 4 warthog would be in the FoD's bay. So it does not prove UNSC presence in Halo 4.

Frankie confirms it on Halo Fests Halo 4 panel.
27:20


Yay for a camping trip at the 'Dawn with only being able to use the Warthog at the start of missions with no gunner, making it completely useless!


I really, really fail to see how you come at that conclusion of a camping trip.


With hikes.

  • 08.30.2011 10:34 PM PDT

Posted by: BlueRuby2k10
With hikes.


Touche, that made me grin.

However, I too fail to see the basis for your assumption.

[Edited on 08.30.2011 10:39 PM PDT]

  • 08.30.2011 10:37 PM PDT


Posted by: Xx Anaki xX
Touche, that made me grin.

However, I too fail to see the basis for your assumption.


Using the Dawn as a base for the game is a flawed way to play, not to mention the story would go absolutely nowhere.

[Edited on 08.30.2011 10:44 PM PDT]

  • 08.30.2011 10:40 PM PDT

With the impending hints about Precursors and the technology they possessed. Which was beyond the capability of the Forerunner. The Ark was an amazing distance away from Earth. It wouldn't be prudent to say that giving an AI a physical form would be impossible. Considering the Forerunner had weapons made of light, this shouldn't seem that far off.

  • 08.30.2011 10:41 PM PDT


Posted by: BlueRuby2k10

Posted by: Xx Anaki xX
Touche, that made me grin.

However, I too fail to see the basis for your assumption.


Using the Dawn as a base for the game is a flawed way to play the game, not to mention the story would go absolutely nowhere.


Wait, you think because the hog is on the FoD that that means the ship will serve as base camp?

How in the world did you connect those dots?

  • 08.30.2011 10:45 PM PDT


Posted by: Xx Anaki xX

Posted by: BlueRuby2k10

Posted by: Xx Anaki xX
Touche, that made me grin.

However, I too fail to see the basis for your assumption.


Using the Dawn as a base for the game is a flawed way to play the game, not to mention the story would go absolutely nowhere.


Wait, you think because the hog is on the FoD that that means the ship will serve as base camp?

How in the world did you connect those dots?


Oh, I was more-so referring to all of the users on this forum who created that idea and have been tossing it around like a balloon around a room.

  • 08.30.2011 10:46 PM PDT


Posted by: BlueRuby2k10

Oh, I was more-so referring to all of the users on this forum who created that idea and have been tossing it around like a balloon around a room.


Ah, right. For all I know that is possible, but I doubt it. Plus that would be lame--using a damaged remnant of a ship as base camp.

  • 08.30.2011 10:50 PM PDT


Posted by: BlueRuby2k10

Posted by: Xx Anaki xX
Touche, that made me grin.

However, I too fail to see the basis for your assumption.


Using the Dawn as a base for the game is a flawed way to play, not to mention the story would go absolutely nowhere.


Because that's so true isn't it?

Dragon Age awakening featured a main base, and the story went somewhere.

Making a base camp in a familar place is the smart thing to do. And we never said he'd go back after every mission. I personally simply said "Occansionally" going back.

  • 08.30.2011 10:58 PM PDT

Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron

Because that's so true isn't it?

Dragon Age awakening featured a main base, and the story went somewhere.

Making a base camp in a familar place is the smart thing to do. And we never said he'd go back after every mission. I personally simply said "Occansionally" going back.



True, Though Dragon Age is a completely different type of game. Halo really isn't suited for having a main base (Halo Wars excluding).

I could see him going back maybe once, but not much more than that.

[Edited on 08.30.2011 11:06 PM PDT]

  • 08.30.2011 11:06 PM PDT


Posted by: Xx Anaki xX
Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron

Because that's so true isn't it?

Dragon Age awakening featured a main base, and the story went somewhere.

Making a base camp in a familar place is the smart thing to do. And we never said he'd go back after every mission. I personally simply said "Occansionally" going back.



True, Though Dragon Age is a completely different type of game. Halo really isn't suited for having a main base (Halo Wars excluding).

I could see him going back maybe once, but not much more than that.


Well, we don't know how far he'll have to travel. Maybe everything important will be nearby.

If I was Chief, I'd use the Dawn as a camp simply from the fact of it's familar, and has all the supplies he needs.

Ruby seems to treat it as if Chief will have to literally go around the globe in two different directions.

[Edited on 08.30.2011 11:12 PM PDT]

  • 08.30.2011 11:11 PM PDT


Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron

Well, we don't know how far he'll have to travel. Maybe everything important will be nearby.

If I was Chief, I'd use the Dawn as a camp simply from the fact of it's familar, and has all the supplies he needs.


Considering the Halo 4 trailer, it almost seems as if Chief is being pulled in. If that's the case I would imagine he would be put down nearby. Realistically, yes I could see him using the Dawn for supplies. Game play wise, it seems rather weak.

Ruby seems to treat it as if Chief will have to literally go around the globe in two different directions.

I'm not sure I understand what you mean? That Chief will be traveling so much that a main base is irrelevant?

  • 08.30.2011 11:24 PM PDT


Posted by: Xx Anaki xX
Ruby seems to treat it as if Chief will have to literally go around the globe in two different directions.

I'm not sure I understand what you mean? That Chief will be traveling so much that a main base is irrelevant?


I mean everytime somebody mentions using a warthog from the Dawn's hanger bay, or using the wreckage as a base camp/rest and resupply area of sorts occansionally, Ruby replies that the game will be about Chief sitting in the wreckage sipping tea because having a base camp means he can't go these long distances that apparently have been implied.

  • 08.30.2011 11:30 PM PDT


Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron

Posted by: Xx Anaki xX
Ruby seems to treat it as if Chief will have to literally go around the globe in two different directions.

I'm not sure I understand what you mean? That Chief will be traveling so much that a main base is irrelevant?


I mean everytime somebody mentions using a warthog from the Dawn's hanger bay, or using the wreckage as a base camp/rest and resupply area of sorts occansionally, Ruby replies that the game will be about Chief sitting in the wreckage sipping tea because having a base camp means he can't go these long distances that apparently have been implied.


Well, I would argue that Chief is the kind of guy who takes what he needs and goes, so there is no need for a base camp.

However, resupplying and taking a warthog in no way implies that he will use the FoD as a camp.

It sounds like Ruby is making excuses just to argue.

[Edited on 08.30.2011 11:37 PM PDT]

  • 08.30.2011 11:36 PM PDT
Subject: Warthog confirmed to be in Halo 4: Obvious confirmation of UNSC in H4?

In memory of those fallen in the defense of Earth and her colonies.

March 3, 2553

Well no -blam!-.

If UNSC was not in Halo 4, they will have to design a new vehicle base. Its obvious these things would be left in as they are Halo icons.

  • 08.31.2011 4:48 AM PDT

"We live in a special time; the only time where we can observationally verify that we live in a very special time" - Lawrence Krauss.

I was a finalist :P

Frankie said the year floating around is not correct. I doubt the year is 2554...

  • 08.31.2011 4:55 AM PDT
Subject: Warthog confirmed in Halo 4: Obvious confirmation of UNSC in H4? EDIT!


Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron

Posted by: Xx Anaki xX
Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron

Because that's so true isn't it?

Dragon Age awakening featured a main base, and the story went somewhere.

Making a base camp in a familar place is the smart thing to do. And we never said he'd go back after every mission. I personally simply said "Occansionally" going back.



True, Though Dragon Age is a completely different type of game. Halo really isn't suited for having a main base (Halo Wars excluding).

I could see him going back maybe once, but not much more than that.


Well, we don't know how far he'll have to travel. Maybe everything important will be nearby.

If I was Chief, I'd use the Dawn as a camp simply from the fact of it's familar, and has all the supplies he needs.

Ruby seems to treat it as if Chief will have to literally go around the globe in two different directions.


I only think that because most of the Halo games have been widespread with their locations in one Campaign.

[Edited on 08.31.2011 5:25 AM PDT]

  • 08.31.2011 5:21 AM PDT


Posted by: Xx Anaki xX

Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron

Posted by: Xx Anaki xX
Ruby seems to treat it as if Chief will have to literally go around the globe in two different directions.

I'm not sure I understand what you mean? That Chief will be traveling so much that a main base is irrelevant?


I mean everytime somebody mentions using a warthog from the Dawn's hanger bay, or using the wreckage as a base camp/rest and resupply area of sorts occansionally, Ruby replies that the game will be about Chief sitting in the wreckage sipping tea because having a base camp means he can't go these long distances that apparently have been implied.


Well, I would argue that Chief is the kind of guy who takes what he needs and goes, so there is no need for a base camp.

However, resupplying and taking a warthog in no way implies that he will use the FoD as a camp.

It sounds like Ruby is making excuses just to argue.


And how did you come to that conclusion?
Besides, with the UNSC's obvious involvement in the game, Chief won't need to hang around the Dawn to resupply. There's a new war that going to take place so Chief can't afford to do something like that.
A UNSC Base is completely different as there are multiple soldiers and most likely air transport. I'm not saying I'd rather stay at a UNSC base, but still.

[Edited on 08.31.2011 5:26 AM PDT]

  • 08.31.2011 5:25 AM PDT
Subject: Warthog confirmed to be in Halo 4: Obvious confirmation of UNSC in H4?

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Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
I honestly hope it's a warthog from the In Amber Clad hanger, and not a UNSC base. Or if it's a UNSC base, it's from the Spirit of Fire or another crashed base and the UNSC as a whole doesn't know about the planet.

Probably the first one since Chief was in the cargo hold half of the ship when it split off.

  • 08.31.2011 5:50 AM PDT
Subject: Warthog confirmed in Halo 4: Obvious confirmation of UNSC in H4? EDIT!


Posted by: BlueRuby2k10

And how did you come to that conclusion?
Besides, with the UNSC's obvious involvement in the game, Chief won't need to hang around the Dawn to resupply. There's a new war that going to take place so Chief can't afford to do something like that.
A UNSC Base is completely different as there are multiple soldiers and most likely air transport. I'm not saying I'd rather stay at a UNSC base, but still.


To which conclusion are you referring?

I'm still not convinced that the UNSC will have a direct presence in Halo 4, but I agree, I don't think that Chief would hang around the Dawn. More like take what he needs and go.

And let's say the UNSC is in Halo 4(strictly hypothetical). Even if they had a base I don't think Chief would hang around it. He's never been the kind of guy to do that in the past, I don't know why he'd do that now. He might visit it, but he wouldn't stay.

  • 08.31.2011 8:13 AM PDT
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"but you already knew that, I mean, how couldn't you?

Only when no Human brick is left atop another, shall we be satisfied with your destruction.

Every time I read one of these theories that goes "no this, no that" I can't help but think of all the theories that were going around before Halo 2 came out.

You know, the ones that said "Halo 2 takes place only on Earth, you can't go anywhere else! It's Earth's last stand, Stupid!"
Or "The demo level was all Earth, so the whole game is too, don't you see??? Are you blind???"

Or even the mocking of those that said a Covenant player-character would be quite cool.

Then there were all the 'Theories' popping up before Halo 3, about the Ark mostly.

"It's inside the earth! Didn't you see the trailer!!!"
"The ark is the Earth, it's SOOO OBVIOUS!!!11ONE!!"
"Earth is an Onyx-Sphere"

Etc
Etc
Etc.

All those theories were clung to and defended visciously with insults flying for months.

All were dead wrong.

You have seen one teaser trailer, a warthog, and the phrase "no purple". This does not a script make, all these 'theories' are just people's guesswork and little hypothesis-sprees, We won't know till the game comes out.


SHORT VERSION: Most 'theories' turn out to be nonsense, wait and see.



VERY SHORT VERSION: Wait and see.

  • 08.31.2011 8:41 AM PDT
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"but you already knew that, I mean, how couldn't you?

Only when no Human brick is left atop another, shall we be satisfied with your destruction.


Posted by: anish panchalin

This is exactly what I was saying to grey and cobra (who once said there was NO WAY the UNSC could be in H4). I agree with your point, anyone who's dead set on their theory and believes it as fact is being silly because we have little evidence to make any conclusion about H4.


I obviously won't name names for those folk that were leaping a few conclusions too far back in the Halo 2 days, suffice to say once they realised how insulting they had been over a wrong idea there were quite a few sheepish faces. I remember we did have one guy post a formal apology thread to say sorry for flaming people who had disagreed with his idea.

It's natural to want to be right, but sometimes we all make a couple of leaps of logic too far, best just to go with what is known.

We can be fairly certain you will start the game on that Forerunner Artifact, (where we go from there....) but even that might be wrong, it could be a portal-device for example.

[Edited on 08.31.2011 9:05 AM PDT]

  • 08.31.2011 9:03 AM PDT

OMG a Pwny!

Wow, this makes my head hurt. Mostly because you guys are seriously over thinking it. It's an easter egg in Forza, get over it. Did nobody notice the Pelicans in the concept art, oh snap, should I go make a new thread so the controversy can start?

  • 08.31.2011 10:13 AM PDT