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Subject: Warthog confirmed to be in Halo 4: Obvious confirmation of UNSC in H4?

I wake up to find myself
After all these years
And where all the time has gone
Still seems so unclear

Posted by: rr2157
Also, I understand that the frigate would be housing military equipment. However, being exposed to the conditions of space (along with the massive explosions the ship seems to go through during the teaser trailer) causes me to seriously doubt any large vehicles are salvageable from the craft.


How did you miss the part where she said Hogs survived a ship crashing into a planet and Marines surviving while strapped in them? If the Hogs survived a crash like that, then it could survive In Amber Clad blowing up slowly.

Also, didn't Frankie say that teaser doesn't happen the same way in the game? It's like how the teaser for Halo 3 had the Chief walking up to the cliff and seeing the Portal activate. It didn't happen at all like that in the game.

  • 08.26.2011 12:28 PM PDT

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Posted by: matman25402
Quote fail? But I'll go with it anyway. I see you've resorted to bringing up something completely off topic and putting words in my mouth about it, but yes, Nicole, the person, is canon.. Regardless, that has nothing to do with this thread, and I have no idea why you brought it up.


Evil Otto also said Reach isn't canon. Whilst I hoped this was true, he later said that his word isn't law. Nicole is not canon, if you truly believe she went back in time to fight Anime warriors in another fictional universe then I think you need to see a doctor.

ImmortalJoshua was the biggest troll this forum has ever known, anything that comes from him is liable to suspect.

I was neither putting words in your mouth, nor bringing up other points. I was merely making a comparison. -_-

  • 08.26.2011 12:29 PM PDT

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Posted by: matman25402
Quote fail? But I'll go with it anyway. I see you've resorted to bringing up something completely off topic and putting words in my mouth about it, but yes, Nicole, the person, is canon.. Regardless, that has nothing to do with this thread, and I have no idea why you brought it up.


Evil Otto also said Reach isn't canon. Whilst I hoped this was true, he later said that his word isn't law. Nicole is not canon, if you truly believe she went back in time to fight Anime warriors in another fictional universe then I think you need to see a doctor.

ImmortalJoshua was the biggest troll this forum has ever known, anything that comes from him is liable to suspect.

I was neither putting words in your mouth, nor bringing up other points. I was merely making a comparison. -_-
You put words in my mouth again. I said Nicole, the person, is canon. If you even bothered to read the text in the picture, Otto says that the DOA part is definetly not canon. But still, why on God's green earth are you bringing this up?

  • 08.26.2011 12:31 PM PDT

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Posted by: matman25402

Posted by: ajw34307

Posted by: matman25402
Quote fail? But I'll go with it anyway. I see you've resorted to bringing up something completely off topic and putting words in my mouth about it, but yes, Nicole, the person, is canon.. Regardless, that has nothing to do with this thread, and I have no idea why you brought it up.


Evil Otto also said Reach isn't canon. Whilst I hoped this was true, he later said that his word isn't law. Nicole is not canon, if you truly believe she went back in time to fight Anime warriors in another fictional universe then I think you need to see a doctor.

ImmortalJoshua was the biggest troll this forum has ever known, anything that comes from him is liable to suspect.

I was neither putting words in your mouth, nor bringing up other points. I was merely making a comparison. -_-
You put words in my mouth again. I said Nicole, the person, is canon. If you even bothered to read the text in the picture, Otto says that the DOA part is definetly not canon. But still, why on God's green earth are you bringing this up?


One of my coup scripts doesn't allow me to see hyperlinked text, only the pictures you link to.

Can you read? I said I brought it up as a comparison. The Warthog in Forza is comparable to Nicole in DOA, the details that they have in the games are non-canonical (Nicole going back in time, the Warthog's out-of-date info etc).

  • 08.26.2011 12:35 PM PDT

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well if it was like mario kart double dash, or master chief double dash and you where master chief and the arbiter was on the back gunning down other cars in you way and cortana was in the warthog too and there was a track called the maw run, i would get forza motor sports 4.

  • 08.26.2011 12:36 PM PDT

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Did you two read my link?

...will be an in-depth look at the Warthog design that will be used in the upcoming Halo 4.

I think it's going to be in the game.

I can't post the whole quote, it's saying extended characters yada yada.

  • 08.26.2011 12:38 PM PDT
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"Time was your ally human. But now it has abandoned you. The Forerunners....have returned. And this tomb... is now yours". - The Didact

Which means we will have allies.

The question is are those Humans or Forerunner allies.

  • 08.26.2011 12:40 PM PDT

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A god who creates tools is still a god. It is not for us to impose qualifications upon the divine or presume to guess its intentions.


Posted by: ajw34307

Can you read? I said I brought it up as a comparison. The Warthog in Forza is comparable to Nicole in DOA, the details that they have in the games are non-canonical (Nicole going back in time, the Warthog's out-of-date info etc).
Nothing about the warthog is wrong... But you can go ahead and think that.

Also this:

"...will be an in-depth look at the Warthog design that will be used in the upcoming Halo 4."

From OP's post/link.

[Edited on 08.26.2011 12:42 PM PDT]

  • 08.26.2011 12:40 PM PDT

I wake up to find myself
After all these years
And where all the time has gone
Still seems so unclear

Wired.com
"Official"
lolno.

First off, just because Microsoft puts it(or a variation of it) in another game, does not "confirm" it for Halo 4. That video has NOTHING to do with Halo 4.

Unless 343i puts out a goddamn press release, you should consider this to be a compartmentalized easter egg for Forza 4. Same thing with Nicole from DoA4, just because she "exists" in canon doesn't mean she matters in any significant way to the overarching story or games.

[Edited on 08.26.2011 12:46 PM PDT]

  • 08.26.2011 12:45 PM PDT


Posted by: ajw34307

Posted by: matman25402

Right, so according to your logic here, Forza is canon to the Halo universe now, is it?


Considering its the Halo 4 Warthog designed by 343i, and narrorated by Cortana, then in this case, yes, but not the game itself. The hog is an easter egg, not a drivable car. But it is confirmed to be the model of the vehicle as created by 343i.

And the fact 343i's description of the video quite clearly calls it the 2554 FAV.

[Edited on 08.26.2011 12:48 PM PDT]

  • 08.26.2011 12:47 PM PDT

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Posted by: matman25402

Posted by: ajw34307

Can you read? I said I brought it up as a comparison. The Warthog in Forza is comparable to Nicole in DOA, the details that they have in the games are non-canonical (Nicole going back in time, the Warthog's out-of-date info etc).
Nothing about the warthog is wrong... But you can go ahead and think that.


Yes there is. As DaeFaron said:

The warthog model (M12 force application vehicle) was not built in 2554. The M12 FAV has been in-service for decades, before the Human-Covenant war even started.

The event she references has the Cole Protocol mentioned. Post Halo 3 it'd be a moot point because the war is over in 2553.

So, The date, the full name, and the event don't match up.

Also this:

"...will be an in-depth look at the Warthog design that will be used in the upcoming Halo 4."

From OP's post/link.


Warthog design, yes. There is no evidence that the UNSC will be present, this may be as simple as a graphical upgrade or the Dawn had those Warthogs on it anyway.

  • 08.26.2011 12:48 PM PDT

I wake up to find myself
After all these years
And where all the time has gone
Still seems so unclear

Oh my god. She was giving a history lesson on the Warthog model, she was not talking about THAT YEARS' model.

She even said "At the beginning of the Covenant war," and talked about the ship crashing.

Posted by: ajw34307
Yes there is. As DaeFaron said:

The warthog model (M12 force application vehicle) was not built in 2554. The M12 FAV has been in-service for decades, before the Human-Covenant war even started.

The event she references has the Cole Protocol mentioned. Post Halo 3 it'd be a moot point because the war is over in 2553.

  • 08.26.2011 12:52 PM PDT

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Posted by: Ageless Durandal
Wired.com
"Official"
lolno.

First off, just because Microsoft puts it(or a variation of it) in another game, does not "confirm" it for Halo 4. That video has NOTHING to do with Halo 4.

Unless 343i puts out a goddamn press release, you should consider this to be a compartmentalized easter egg for Forza 4. Same thing with Nicole from DoA4, just because she "exists" in canon doesn't mean she matters in any significant way to the overarching story or games.


I'm getting the vibe you didn't actually read the article. And for whatever reason is slightly irked that the iconic warthog will be found in Halo 4. Honestly, think it through logically. The warthog is the most recognizable vehicle from Halo, of course they'll think of a way to incorporate it into the game.

Also, I don't even know what this Nicole junk is, but vehicles matter a lot more to a story arch than a person does in a FPS.

  • 08.26.2011 12:54 PM PDT

I wake up to find myself
After all these years
And where all the time has gone
Still seems so unclear

And I get the vibe you don't understand that Wired.com is NOT an official source of information regarding game Canon. I don't care what the Article says, you shouldn't just assume it's correct. I'm not irked at anything other than your naivete.

And for the record, I know the Hog is going to be in Halo 4. It damn well better be, it's my favorite vehicle.

  • 08.26.2011 1:01 PM PDT

http://uk.ign.com/videos/2011/08/26/halo-4-warthog-in-forza-4

link to the vid above

  • 08.26.2011 1:03 PM PDT

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That warthog looks pretty awesome. The details they added on make it look more realistic.

  • 08.26.2011 1:06 PM PDT

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Posted by: Ageless Durandal
And I get the vibe you don't understand that Wired.com is NOT an official source of information regarding game Canon. I don't care what the Article says, you shouldn't just assume it's correct. I'm not irked at anything other than your naivete.

And for the record, I know the Hog is going to be in Halo 4. It damn well better be, it's my favorite vehicle.


If you know it's going to be in the game then why are you throwing such a fit?

  • 08.26.2011 1:11 PM PDT

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What exactly are people arguing about here? That Warthog is the Halo 4 Warthog. It says in this video that it is the 2554 version of the Warthog. Cortana then explains the Warthogs history.

Halo 4 takes place in or after 2556 so this is the Warthog that was probably in service then. It looks a bit wierd Graphics wise because it probably isn't finished and is in a different game.

BTW this was posted as a main article on the Waypoint site so it's official.

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Posted by: windtalker006
What's the damn point of having it in a racing game if we can't use it to race?


Ding Ding Ding we have a winner, same thing I was thinking.

I think thats ridiculous it just seems crazy to me. Trying to lure all the Halo fans into buying Forza 4 just so they can look at the warthog (after you unlock it). Whats next the Mongoose and the Pillar of Autumn??? LOL just a $ racket (my opinion). No Thanks

  • 08.26.2011 2:10 PM PDT
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As seeing that website is and it is not official information and not viable site to confirm contents in Halo 4.

Common sense dictates that we will have warthogs FROM FuD, not UNSC.

Only allies we will get is Forerunners. Enemies: Flood and Precursors. (Maye more)

  • 08.26.2011 2:24 PM PDT

I can say it confirms you're not alone in your fight against the "ancient evil".

  • 08.26.2011 3:02 PM PDT

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how is it confirmed?

  • 08.26.2011 3:04 PM PDT

The model could be outdated, so that means halo 4 takes place sometime after 2554

  • 08.26.2011 3:13 PM PDT

Signatures are for squares.

Not this -blam!- again.

If we're taking Forza as canon in the Halo Universe then friggin Nicole would be considered Canon as well. Guess what? She isn't.

It just shows how far the Universe forum has fallen. We shouldn't even be having this debate right now.

  • 08.26.2011 3:15 PM PDT
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  • 08.26.2011 3:15 PM PDT