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Subject: Warthog confirmed to be in Halo 4: Obvious confirmation of UNSC in H4?


Posted by: raganok99
As seeing that website is and it is not official information and not viable site to confirm contents in Halo 4.

Common sense dictates that we will have warthogs FROM FuD, not UNSC.

Only allies we will get is Forerunners. Enemies: Flood and Precursors. (Maye more)


Delusion at its finest. What's next;
THIS JUST IN: 343 releases a video featuring improved Marine AI!!

You: It's obviously a flashback! There is no evidence in this video that the UNSC will be in Halo 4! /cry moar

  • 08.26.2011 3:20 PM PDT

"I'm afraid of the man I'll become if I lay my life down for the people I don't even care for"

yeahhh...

http://kotaku.com/5834660/there-are-halo-4-teases-on-this-wal l

It sais UNSC on the shp at 1:04

At first I thought it was pre-historic human for some reason. I guess it looked more bulky then I expected :P

EDIT: I do realize it is concept art and there is no concrete evidence that it has to do with anything in the game but I thought it was a nice tidbit.

[Edited on 08.26.2011 3:22 PM PDT]

  • 08.26.2011 3:20 PM PDT

I am alpha, i am omega.

I am the last of the primes.


Posted by: iceman021011

Posted by: windtalker006
What's the damn point of having it in a racing game if we can't use it to race?


Ding Ding Ding we have a winner, same thing I was thinking.

I think thats ridiculous it just seems crazy to me. Trying to lure all the Halo fans into buying Forza 4 just so they can look at the warthog (after you unlock it). Whats next the Mongoose and the Pillar of Autumn??? LOL just a $ racket (my opinion). No Thanks

*facedesk*

1. I'm not having 12 year old noobs online with that thing smashing into my ferrari f50 gt in the first corner...

2. Forza 4 uses pirelli tyre data for all it's cars, there is no tyre data on the hogs tyres.

3. All vehicles in forza 4 can be tunned and customized, i'm not seeing how the hog can...

  • 08.26.2011 3:21 PM PDT


Posted by: privet caboose
Not this -blam!- again.

If we're taking Forza as canon in the Halo Universe then friggin Nicole would be considered Canon as well. Guess what? She isn't.

It just shows how far the Universe forum has fallen. We shouldn't even be having this debate right now.


Considering that it said that it's the Halo 4 model created by 343... make your own conclusion.
I mean, are people unable to conceive the words before them?

  • 08.26.2011 3:22 PM PDT

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

It's cool, but not confirmation for UNSC forces in Halo 4. Sorry.

  • 08.26.2011 3:33 PM PDT


Posted by: UnfitFatbill
yeahhh...

http://kotaku.com/5834660/there-are-halo-4-teases-on-this-wal l

It sais UNSC on the shp at 1:04

At first I thought it was pre-historic human for some reason. I guess it looked more bulky then I expected :P

EDIT: I do realize it is concept art and there is no concrete evidence that it has to do with anything in the game but I thought it was a nice tidbit.


It doesn't say "UNSC ship", but it kind of looks like one.

  • 08.26.2011 3:37 PM PDT

Why is there even argument about this? This is made with the exact hog model from Halo 4, given to them by 343. It is confirmed, in video, that is is the Halo 4 warthog; these guys went above and beyond in detail to make this thing real. It is a Hog created after the battle of Earth that appears in Halo 4. What is there not to get?

  • 08.26.2011 3:38 PM PDT

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

Posted by: Vaenier
Why is there even argument about this? This is made with the exact hog model from Halo 4, given to them by 343. It is confirmed, in video, that is is the Halo 4 warthog; these guys went above and beyond in detail to make this thing real. It is a Hog created after the battle of Earth that appears in Halo 4. What is there not to get?


Because there is no possible reason for that Warthog to be present in Halo 4's story according to the Halo timeline.

  • 08.26.2011 3:40 PM PDT


Posted by: Vaenier
Why is there even argument about this? This is made with the exact hog model from Halo 4, given to them by 343. It is confirmed, in video, that is is the Halo 4 warthog; these guys went above and beyond in detail to make this thing real. It is a Hog created after the battle of Earth that appears in Halo 4. What is there not to get?


Apparently the Chief will hang around the dawn like he's on a camping trip, when that makes no sense within the context of what a Halo game is; an adventure that stretches long distances and go to far away places.

  • 08.26.2011 3:40 PM PDT

"I'm afraid of the man I'll become if I lay my life down for the people I don't even care for"


Posted by: BlueRuby2k10

Posted by: UnfitFatbill
yeahhh...

http://kotaku.com/5834660/there-are-halo-4-teases-on-this-wal l

It sais UNSC on the shp at 1:04

At first I thought it was pre-historic human for some reason. I guess it looked more bulky then I expected :P

EDIT: I do realize it is concept art and there is no concrete evidence that it has to do with anything in the game but I thought it was a nice tidbit.


It doesn't say "UNSC ship", but it kind of looks like one.


Go full screen, look closer. On the top middle of the ship it clearly sais UNSC (something). I can't make out that something

  • 08.26.2011 3:40 PM PDT


Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Posted by: Vaenier
Why is there even argument about this? This is made with the exact hog model from Halo 4, given to them by 343. It is confirmed, in video, that is is the Halo 4 warthog; these guys went above and beyond in detail to make this thing real. It is a Hog created after the battle of Earth that appears in Halo 4. What is there not to get?


Because there is no possible reason for that Warthog to be present in Halo 4's story according to the Halo timeline.


Cool time machine, bro.
I can't wait until Halo 4 comes out and you begin bashing on it for the UNSC's presence and involvement in the game.

  • 08.26.2011 3:41 PM PDT

It's hard to wait around for something you know might never happen; but it's even harder to give up when you know it's everything you want.

~~~~~~~

Never regret anything because at one time,
it was exactly what you wanted.

.

[Edited on 08.26.2011 3:48 PM PDT]

  • 08.26.2011 3:42 PM PDT

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

Posted by: BlueRuby2k10

Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Posted by: Vaenier
Why is there even argument about this? This is made with the exact hog model from Halo 4, given to them by 343. It is confirmed, in video, that is is the Halo 4 warthog; these guys went above and beyond in detail to make this thing real. It is a Hog created after the battle of Earth that appears in Halo 4. What is there not to get?


Because there is no possible reason for that Warthog to be present in Halo 4's story according to the Halo timeline.


Cool time machine, bro.
I can't wait until Halo 4 comes out and you begin bashing on it for the UNSC's presence and involvement in the game.


Well, yeah, I would probably bash it. If the UNSC find Chief, then it conflicts with the Encyclopedia. If 343 planned to violate it in the first place, I fail to see why they would give it a "fixed" second edition.

Unless it was a shameless cash grab.

  • 08.26.2011 3:43 PM PDT


Posted by: UnfitFatbill

Posted by: BlueRuby2k10

Posted by: UnfitFatbill
yeahhh...

http://kotaku.com/5834660/there-are-halo-4-teases-on-this-wal l

It sais UNSC on the shp at 1:04

At first I thought it was pre-historic human for some reason. I guess it looked more bulky then I expected :P

EDIT: I do realize it is concept art and there is no concrete evidence that it has to do with anything in the game but I thought it was a nice tidbit.


It doesn't say "UNSC ship", but it kind of looks like one.


Go full screen, look closer. On the top middle of the ship it clearly sais UNSC (something). I can't make out that something


Well I'll be damned! You're right!
Well, Cobra. I guess your argument is flat out dead. It's concept art, but why would 343 put this picture up on a public Halo 4 board at HALOFEST? This is an indirect confirmation that the UNSC will play the same role they've played in all Halo games.

343 has most likely got the story for the trilogy outlined, and since there's now concept art... boop!

[Edited on 08.26.2011 3:47 PM PDT]

  • 08.26.2011 3:44 PM PDT


Posted by: oBaniished
It clearly says in the link that the warthog is an hidden easter egg. Easter eggs have nothing to do about the story, unsc isnt in halo 4.


Easter Egg in Forza-whatever 4.

  • 08.26.2011 3:44 PM PDT

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

Posted by: BlueRuby2k10
Well, Cobra. I guess your argument is flat out dead. It's concept art, but why would 343 put this picture up on a public Halo 4 board at HALOFEST? This is an indirect confirmation that the UNSC will play the same role they've played in all Halo games.


I don't know, I don't work for 343. For all we know, this could just be a visual look of the Warthogs that could be in Glasslands and beyond. Either way, it's a violation of canon if the UNSC come into play. As for confirmation, I'll wait until 343 themselves admit the UNSC will play a role in Halo 4.

So you can claim premature victory if you wish, won't bug me.

  • 08.26.2011 3:48 PM PDT

Posted by:ScubaToaster
Posted by: HipiO7
This man, this man right here put it so eloquently that I actually cancelled my own 2000+ word long post.
/slow clap for respect


:)
The person who said participating is important, not winning, obviously never won anything.

It's most likely a warthog from In Amber Clad.

  • 08.26.2011 3:48 PM PDT

Why would the UNSC finding the Chief mess up the time line? Why cant another ship go missing like in Halo Wars, meeting Flood before they were ever supposed to be released.
Plus there is this thing called a retcon, writers love the thing. They can do anything they want with it, and apparently they decided there is a warthog manufactured AFTER Halo 3 appearing in Halo 4.

  • 08.26.2011 3:49 PM PDT


Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Posted by: BlueRuby2k10
Well, Cobra. I guess your argument is flat out dead. It's concept art, but why would 343 put this picture up on a public Halo 4 board at HALOFEST? This is an indirect confirmation that the UNSC will play the same role they've played in all Halo games.


I don't know, I don't work for 343. For all we know, this could just be a visual look of the Warthogs that could be in Glasslands and beyond. Either way, it's a violation of canon if the UNSC come into play. As for confirmation, I'll wait until 343 themselves admit the UNSC will play a role in Halo 4.

So you can claim premature victory if you wish, won't bug me.


I'm sure violating ONE TINY DETAIL in the encyclopedia which I'm sure around 75-80% of the Halo fanbase have not read isn't that big of a deal.
Or maybe it doesn't have to be violated at all? Perhaps the UNSC ship/fleet where Chief is sent never contacts the rest of humanity, and by the end of the trilogy, it gets wiped out. And it's more than likely that Chief will die.

  • 08.26.2011 3:51 PM PDT

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

Posted by: Vaenier
Why would the UNSC finding the Chief mess up the time line? Why cant another ship go missing like in Halo Wars, meeting Flood before they were ever supposed to be released.
Plus there is this thing called a retcon, writers love the thing. They can do anything they want with it, and apparently they decided there is a warthog manufactured AFTER Halo 3 appearing in Halo 4.


Well for one I see the lack of logic in releasing the Encyclopedia with information saying Chief is still missing post-2610, then release it again with a "fixed" second edition only to completely make it worthless as information for Halo 4. All that would say to me is "Ha ha ha ha, we took your money" from 343 Industries.

  • 08.26.2011 3:53 PM PDT


Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Posted by: Vaenier
Why would the UNSC finding the Chief mess up the time line? Why cant another ship go missing like in Halo Wars, meeting Flood before they were ever supposed to be released.
Plus there is this thing called a retcon, writers love the thing. They can do anything they want with it, and apparently they decided there is a warthog manufactured AFTER Halo 3 appearing in Halo 4.


Well for one I see the lack of logic in releasing the Encyclopedia with information saying Chief is still missing post-2610, then release it again with a "fixed" second edition only to completely make it worthless as information for Halo 4. All that would say to me is "Ha ha ha ha, we took your money" from 343 Industries.


You know that's not true. I've said this somewhere before but you're blowing this fifty kilometers out of proportion. Consistency within the games are more important than one statement that's in an obscure little book.

  • 08.26.2011 3:56 PM PDT


Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Posted by: Vaenier
Why would the UNSC finding the Chief mess up the time line? Why cant another ship go missing like in Halo Wars, meeting Flood before they were ever supposed to be released.
Plus there is this thing called a retcon, writers love the thing. They can do anything they want with it, and apparently they decided there is a warthog manufactured AFTER Halo 3 appearing in Halo 4.


Well for one I see the lack of logic in releasing the Encyclopedia with information saying Chief is still missing post-2610, then release it again with a "fixed" second edition only to completely make it worthless as information for Halo 4. All that would say to me is "Ha ha ha ha, we took your money" from 343 Industries.


Yeah... if that's true 343 is "no better with canon" then bungie.

Though, Warthogs could be present from the Forward Unto Dawn wreckage.

  • 08.26.2011 4:03 PM PDT


Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Posted by: BlueRuby2k10
Well, Cobra. I guess your argument is flat out dead. It's concept art, but why would 343 put this picture up on a public Halo 4 board at HALOFEST? This is an indirect confirmation that the UNSC will play the same role they've played in all Halo games.


I don't know, I don't work for 343. For all we know, this could just be a visual look of the Warthogs that could be in Glasslands and beyond. Either way, it's a violation of canon if the UNSC come into play. As for confirmation, I'll wait until 343 themselves admit the UNSC will play a role in Halo 4.

So you can claim premature victory if you wish, won't bug me.


And what if it is the Everest? That would not contradict anything. For all we know, Medicant Bias' atonement requires a Spartan like the Chief, or at least a human that he explicitly protected, which he did not with Everest. I doubt MB even knows what Everest is.

Hell, say the Everest's crew doesn't know where they are or what the purpose of the LP is. Medicant Bias is not their with them to use them as his atonement. He apparently needs the Chief.

  • 08.26.2011 4:06 PM PDT


Posted by: ROBERTO jh

Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Posted by: BlueRuby2k10
Well, Cobra. I guess your argument is flat out dead. It's concept art, but why would 343 put this picture up on a public Halo 4 board at HALOFEST? This is an indirect confirmation that the UNSC will play the same role they've played in all Halo games.


I don't know, I don't work for 343. For all we know, this could just be a visual look of the Warthogs that could be in Glasslands and beyond. Either way, it's a violation of canon if the UNSC come into play. As for confirmation, I'll wait until 343 themselves admit the UNSC will play a role in Halo 4.

So you can claim premature victory if you wish, won't bug me.


And what if it is the Everest? That would not contradict anything. For all we know, Medicant Bias' atonement requires a Spartan like the Chief, or at least a human that he explicitly protected, which he did not with Everest. I doubt MB even knows what Everest is.

Hell, say the Everest's crew doesn't know where they are or what the purpose of the LP is. Medicant Bias is not their with them to use them as his atonement. He apparently needs the Chief.


In my mind, it works better with Spirit of Fire.

Also, Bias was on the keyship, so he wouldn't be able to 'use' Spirit of Fire or Everest anyway.

Key problem in my mind with the Everest deal. Cole jumped out to meet with his girlfriend's Rebel fleet, and then (if the theory is true, which it definately sounds that way), left to start a colony. A metal planet wouldn't be the best place to start a farming colony...

  • 08.26.2011 4:14 PM PDT


Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
A metal planet wouldn't be the best place to start a farming colony...


Dat yummy metal corn.

  • 08.26.2011 4:31 PM PDT