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  • 08.27.2011 7:17 PM PDT

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

Probably because the Prophets say to do it.

  • 08.27.2011 7:20 PM PDT

Ignore my gamertag. It's actually Dragonzzilla.

Its weird. They view sneaky Humans as Cowards to Hide in the Shadows, while they invented Active Camouflage.

  • 08.27.2011 7:28 PM PDT


Posted by: Dragonzzilla
Its weird. They view sneaky Humans as Cowards to Hide in the Shadows, while they invented Active Camouflage.


"Says the alien -blam!- heel who invented active camo."

Love that scene :).

  • 08.27.2011 7:29 PM PDT

If you're passionate about the thing you're talking about, I'll always lend an ear.

Covenant interpretation of honour may differ to humanity's.

  • 08.27.2011 7:32 PM PDT

"Find where the liar hides, so that I may place my boot between his gums!" - Rtas 'Vadum

Their religion grants them a nice little "get out of decision and responsibility free" card. Also, Sangheili honour =/= to the definition of honour that you will find in any Human dictionary, nor should it be taken with any of the connotations that we attach to the word.

  • 08.27.2011 7:36 PM PDT

"Find where the liar hides, so that I may place my boot between his gums!" - Rtas 'Vadum

Posted by: SlutterFhy
Whenever they actually mention it, it seems mostly similar to our definition of honour.

Some people like to believe that there is a significant difference between Sangheili beliefs in the word. Although until we actually see some cultural difference within their race over this semantic issue then I doubt it. It is all very well to rag on Humans for their "lack of honour" but we have never, ever seen Sangheili rag on each other over differing views on the subject.

It may share some traits with our definition but the Sangheili are quite backwards in their ways, and their standards may be very different from ours. So therefore being considered a good person in each culture may vary greatly.

Or it may be somewhat similar (Or not necessarily) and it is just that Sangheili are as practical as any other soldier on the battlefield; their moral codes go out the window. The Samurai were like that I believe. Off the battlefield it was all poetry and honour; On the battlefield all that mattered was killing the enemy. Honour could be a staple of their civilization that few totally adhere to 100% of the time.

Posted by: SlutterFhy
Also, they wanted to leave the humans on earth to the Flood and just glass the entire planet, and they can't use the religion they just abandoned to cover their arses for that.

The reason why they were going to glass the whole thing was because all it takes for the Flood to survive and start again is a single Flood spore. In order to make sure it is all eradicated, glassing the whole thing would be required.

There is no indication that they wanted to leave Humanity on Earth to the Flood. They wanted the Flood gone as fast as possible, so letting the Flood get to Humanity would be counter-productive. As for glassing over the top of Humanity, it is a possibility. They may have helped evac, or they might not have.

  • 08.27.2011 8:10 PM PDT

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elites are religious, they fight for honer to earn respect, plus the prophets became a part of their religion when they discovered the elites' forunner technolegey, so the elites and the prophets made friends, and then came the birth of the covenent and so on and so on. the point is the elites are religious.

  • 08.27.2011 8:21 PM PDT

I believe in one of the books I think maybe The Cole Protocol it is explained that yes they have an honor system but they view humanity as such great of heretics and so weak that they don't deserve a fair fight. A good example is would be an exterminator killing a bunch of bugs. The exterminator is not going to wait for the bugs to get together a bite him and hurt him he is going to burn them or gas before that because they are vermin.

  • 08.27.2011 8:37 PM PDT

they don't think humans as honourable beings, so they are perfectly o.k. with using dishonourable techniques to kill us

  • 08.27.2011 8:54 PM PDT

I loved that contrast between the Spartans and that Elite in Head Hunter. I was just like "That Elite is a friggin dumbass".
lol

[Edited on 08.27.2011 9:07 PM PDT]

  • 08.27.2011 9:06 PM PDT

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Posted by: SlutterFhy
And then glass entire planets from the safety of their spess-sheeps, civilians and all?

This. is. exactly. what. I've. been. saying!

Right here is why I never liked the Elites aside from The Arbiter. They're such hypocrites.

  • 08.27.2011 9:18 PM PDT

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Honor =/= respect

They believe humanity is a vermin that needs to be exterminated. That's why they glass planets and kill civilians.

  • 08.27.2011 9:20 PM PDT

@accordingto343

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To be fair, that isn't the mindset of all of them.

  • 08.27.2011 9:21 PM PDT

"Find where the liar hides, so that I may place my boot between his gums!" - Rtas 'Vadum

Posted by: DecepticonCobra
To be fair, that isn't the mindset of all of them.

We only really have 4 that are not like that. Every other Sangheili character has that mindset. Their society still views Humanity as worthless after Halo 3 from the sounds of Glasslands.

  • 08.28.2011 9:25 AM PDT
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THeir dependance on honor may also do with rank. Lower ranking Elites seem to be adhered to honor, recklessly charging their enemies do to minor wounds. As you move up the ladder you see Elites that don't respond typically. For example, the Elites that took out the Headhunter teams. They saw us as filth, but acted in ways no other Elite would.

I would also imagine now that the prophets are gone, Elites are more mellowed out, as they have lost the faith they were so zealous about before.

  • 08.28.2011 9:35 AM PDT