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Subject: After a couple great years, the final curtain

Posted by: Nessy

The bungie.net community is the halo PC community that is renowned for being unbelieveably sucky.

Halo 1.07 is dying. Not the slow death of the past year though. It's getting ugly out there folks. Sure the on again off again lag problems of the Bungie servers have always been annoying, a nuciance, but not much more. The team killing we can talk about endlessly...the core problem with Halo is the team killing.... We know it, they know it.

Tonight, only one Bungie CTF server was full. It's obvious that Oblivion has sucked many players away from Halo, myself included. But Halo is Halo, so after a couple days I'm back. I managed maybe 10 minutes of gameplay before my team was inundated with team killers. Steadfast, I ignored two individuals for as long as I could, then sick of being killed, basically quit. Undetered, I decided to enter another empty Bungie CTF server. My reasoning was that perhaps we could get a game going fresh without the TKing. Stupid naive me. Boy was I wrong. First guy in I play one on one for about 4 minutes. We went back and forth a few times, finally he scored. Another person entered, then I took the flag. The original guy switched teams to mine, TKed me, then scored my point.

That's when I realized Halo was truly in its last throws. The great dinosaur's head was finally beneath the rising tar.

It's difficult to see a game that you love go down the tubes. I honestly think that the TKer rate among the current crop of players could easily be 15% or more. That's ridiculous to have to deal with, and my honest opinion without flaming anyone is that Bungie should be working on 1.08.

Probably ain't gonna happen. That's ok, I've accepted it. I've also accepted that Halo 1.07 is dying, you should too. There's a new sheriff in town folks. Name's Halo 2. Out with the old in with the new.

  • 03.27.2006 11:51 PM PDT

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I agree with you somewhat that it has got bad with the TKers, I'm not done yet. That why I help maintain a server and have weekly gatherings. One, it keeps the Tkers and the loudmouth idiots to a minimum because we ban/kick them. Two, you recognize the people you are playing with and can laugh and joke about the game later.

In addition, you sent me money to help pay for the server. I sent you the current rcon password so you have a server out there that you can kick idiots off of and keep the games clean. Show up for some of the Gatherings and see how it is. You'll have fun.

Halo 1 will be here at least until Halo2PC comes out. Halo2 will be the nail in the coffin. I will play Halo2 PC when it comes out to continue the story line, and I'll give MP a shot. I know in my heart Halo2 will not be better then Halo 1. So I may keep a Halo1 server running after Halo2 comes out so that we have a place to play the original.

  • 03.28.2006 5:19 AM PDT
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Too bad you think about it that way. And while you surely have good reasons to quit, there is no reason what so ever to try to convince other people to do the same.

It's your right to think Halo is dieing and it's your right to leave of course, but there are still many thousands of players out there who do enjoy the game, including me. I usually play on the EU-BUNGIE servers and I have to admit that the TK'ing there is a lot less frequent than it was a couple of months ago. I haven't seen KING in ages and the few TK'ers that did show up left after a couple of minutes.

Since two weeks, I also discovered the excellent MAW and TUI moderated servers (I never played there before because I thought I would lag badly) where I had tons and tons of fun on.

You want to go, go. But don't drag the other ones with you.

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  • 03.28.2006 5:20 AM PDT
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I agree, but Halo is not on its final leg. All the people on the Maw are just proof of that. Would we still be here if we thought that Halo was dying?.....I think not.

  • 03.28.2006 7:16 AM PDT
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I have to agree with Ice. I still think Halo is popular despite the TK'ing. Sure it's really annoying, but it's best to ignore it.
Tried last night to get onto both MAW and TUI for a game, but both servers were full. :-(( Great servers with a great bunch of players.
I ended up on a "heavies only" server, NUB I think, and the admin was actually kick/bannig people for wall glitches, cussing, and general crap behaviour. Excellent. !!

  • 03.28.2006 7:18 AM PDT

Posted by: Nessy

The bungie.net community is the halo PC community that is renowned for being unbelieveably sucky.

Posted by: Iggwilv
I agree with you somewhat that it has got bad with the TKers, I'm not done yet. That why I help maintain a server and have weekly gatherings. One, it keeps the Tkers and the loudmouth idiots to a minimum because we ban/kick them. Two, you recognize the people you are playing with and can laugh and joke about the game later.

In addition, you sent me money to help pay for the server. I sent you the current rcon password so you have a server out there that you can kick idiots off of and keep the games clean. Show up for some of the Gatherings and see how it is. You'll have fun.

Halo 1 will be here at least until Halo2PC comes out. Halo2 will be the nail in the coffin. I will play Halo2 PC when it comes out to continue the story line, and I'll give MP a shot. I know in my heart Halo2 will not be better then Halo 1. So I may keep a Halo1 server running after Halo2 comes out so that we have a place to play the original.


Iggwilv: thanks for the invite to Bungie.net Maw server. I never did get the password, if you sent it to my email, there is a good chance I never got it. If you could PM me that would be great. Thanks.

Yeah, last night's post happened largely because I had just "had enough." More sad than anything else. Sad to see the game (IMO) on it's final legs. There is one fundamental problem with the multiplayer portion of the game, and it will never be fixed.

Someone said there are thousands that still play, I beg to differ. Most of the time that I get into the gamespy lobby, maybe 800-1000 players max. Mid-'04 we easily had double the players. That's a huge difference.

I'm not against newbies, but it seems Halo has many of them these days, and lots of them realize how easy it is to be a TKer. So they do it. People are going to do what they can get away with. If it's fun, and it generates a response, there is nothing to stop them from TKing endlessly. So while the veterans of the game move on, they are replaced with newbs, some of which become TKers. It's really silly how this game was left to rot.

I'm not telling anyone to stop playing, I'm asking them to realize that the game isn't what it was, and it probably won't ever recover. To some extent it's the natural way of things, but to a larger extent, the game is dying because it seems there is nothing to look forward to with Halo anymore. If there was even a remote chance that 1.08 would come with a fix for the TKers (no, not turning off friendly fire, a real fix please), I think you would see many players returning. The realist in me thinks that there is no benefit in the eyes of M$/Bungie. They don't want us playing a 4 year old game anymore, they want us to move our mouses (and wallets) to Halo2 and Vista. Why keep fixing an old product when you can sell everyone a new one?



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  • 03.28.2006 11:08 AM PDT
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I see your points. I know that it must be frustrating to have a problem that's not fixed. But the thing to do here is just to take action ourselves. I'm sure that less and less people play every month, many switching to newer alternatives of FPS games. It's up to us to stay in the game and make it possible for other people to enjoy it too. That's why Iggwilv and the TUI people, as well as many others, have constantly moderated servers. What I think can solve most of the problems people have is just server choosing. Choose Dedicated Servers that are moderated, and usually you'll be able to make a few map requests and play the games you want.

It is sad that this game will never be as it was in all its glory, but we can hope that when H2PC comes out we can find the fun that we do here in there as well.

  • 03.28.2006 7:35 PM PDT