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Subject: The San 'Shyuum and Ancient Human civilization questions:

How were they introduced? All I know on this topic is that the ancient human space faring civilization was very advanced thanks to the technology of the San 'Shyuum and their alllience.

Secondly, what was the cause of aggression towards the Forerunners and the Once-sapient Ancient Human civilization? Was it the Flood?

  • 08.28.2011 1:12 PM PDT

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Humanity and Forerunners fought because we started to take some of their worlds as colonies. The Flood didn't help things.

  • 08.28.2011 1:15 PM PDT

Actually, from what I know, they met sometime when humanity was expanding and formed an alliance. Humanity was pretty advance even with the San 'Shyuum helping them.

Yes it kinda was. The flood infected worlds and humanity need more for space and stuff so they took over Forerunner worlds and once they took enough, Forerunners declared war on Humanity.

  • 08.28.2011 1:17 PM PDT

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Posted by: ThatOneJedi
Actually, from what I know, they met sometime when humanity was expanding and formed an alliance. Humanity was pretty advance even with the San 'Shyuum helping them.

Yes it kinda was. The flood infected worlds and humanity need more for space and stuff so they took over Forerunner worlds and once they took enough, Forerunners declared war on Humanity.
That, and some humans thought they were the inheritors of the Mantle.

  • 08.28.2011 1:20 PM PDT


Posted by: ThatOneJedi
Actually, from what I know, they met sometime when humanity was expanding and formed an alliance. Humanity was pretty advance even with the San 'Shyuum helping them.

Yes it kinda was. The flood infected worlds and humanity need more for space and stuff so they took over Forerunner worlds and once they took enough, Forerunners declared war on Humanity.



Is that why when the time of the Forerunner-Flood war, the leader of the Forerunners regretted the extermination of the Human to making them pre-technological? Maybe they even created a cure, and purged it as an act of last revenge...

  • 08.28.2011 1:21 PM PDT

Well yea, humanity created a cure, but at the time, Forerunners didn't know about it and devolved them and forgot about the cure. Also thanks mattman, forgot about that.

  • 08.28.2011 1:23 PM PDT

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It's still unknown as to how the Humans were able to defeat and push back the Flood, the Forerunners must have definitely regretted their decision, yes.

  • 08.28.2011 1:23 PM PDT

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All three civilizations grew up in the milky way. We met each other through forced interaction, when we became space faring. As far as the hostilities are concerned, humanity encountered the flood first at our farthest reach, when we found some spores that mutated some pets. The san's were immune to the mutagenic effects that consuming infected pets had, but as people started changing, and worlds started falling, the san's made a pact with humanity to help secure worlds for retreat. No word on the latent aggressions between the forerunners and prophets, but in the end.... the san's got leniency while humanity was debased. We did get earth though, so yeah.

  • 08.28.2011 1:26 PM PDT

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Posted by: King Nis085
It's still unknown as to how the Humans were able to defeat and push back the Flood, the Forerunners must have definitely regretted their decision, yes.
No, it is known. Ancient humanity injected 1/3 of the population with a serum that destroys flood supercells. That 1/3rd of the population was basically sent on a kamikaze mission into the heart of the infestation. They killed as much flood as they could, and when they finally died, the flood attempted to use them as hosts, which resulted in killing the flood.

  • 08.28.2011 1:33 PM PDT


Posted by: matman25402

Posted by: ThatOneJedi
Actually, from what I know, they met sometime when humanity was expanding and formed an alliance. Humanity was pretty advance even with the San 'Shyuum helping them.

Yes it kinda was. The flood infected worlds and humanity need more for space and stuff so they took over Forerunner worlds and once they took enough, Forerunners declared war on Humanity.
That, and some humans thought they were the inheritors of the Mantle.


Which the Forerunners thought hereditory. Which makes a LOT of sense.

  • 08.28.2011 1:34 PM PDT

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Posted by: BeefyMrYogurt
Secondly, what was the cause of aggression towards the Forerunners and the Once-sapient Ancient Human civilization? Was it the Flood?

Humans and Forerunners contested the rights to the Mantle Guardianship. They were, along with the San-Shyuum, a race that the Forerunners could not subsume. The Flood came along and started infecting Humanity's worlds. Refugees spilled into the remaining worlds. That always causes problems. Humanity tried to alleviate this problem by expanding into Forerunner space away from the Flood, but in doing so they displaced Forerunner colonies/native species. This gives the Forerunner the excuse they needed to remove Humanity from the galaxy.

  • 08.28.2011 1:41 PM PDT

So does this answer your questions?

  • 08.28.2011 1:41 PM PDT

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Humanity achieved an advanced state early in its history, achieving a high level of technological sophistication and expanding outward along the Orion Arm to escape Forerunner control thousands of years before the activation of the Halo Array. At one point, humanity formed an alliance with the San 'Shyuum and later warred against the nascent Flood. While humanity managed to drive the Flood off the galaxy for the next several millennia, the conflict led to a war with the Forerunners, a war which humanity lost. As punishment, the humans were stripped of their technology, their civilizations smashed, and the remnants exiled to their homeworld, reduced to a pre-technological state from which they would be forced to start again.
Borrowed from halo wiki

im guessing the war started because the humans didnt want to be controlled by the forerunners anymore or looking at the other comments it could be because the humans colonized on planets the forerunners didnt want them to because they wanted to escape from the flood.

  • 08.28.2011 4:04 PM PDT

I'm Hungry

or the humans found a cure for the flood and the forerunners wanted it or something like that

  • 08.28.2011 4:07 PM PDT

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Humanity was fighting the Flood and losing for a while so they retreated into Forerunner space and took some of their worlds. The Forerunner did not take kindly to this and destroyed us.

  • 08.28.2011 4:24 PM PDT