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Subject: With the Warthog confirmed for H4, do you think the UNSC will be?

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Poll: With the Warthog confirmed for H4, do you think the UNSC will be?  [closed]
Yes, the UNSC will be an important figure in H4:  42%
(23 Votes)
Yes, but relatively unimportant/not powerful in H4:  33%
(18 Votes)
No, the UNSC will not present in H4.:  24%
(13 Votes)
No, the UNSC will have disbanded by H4.:  2%
(1 Votes)
Total Votes: 55

As this thread shows, the iconic warthog is indeed going to be in Halo 4. So I now would like to present a poll to get an accurate number on what you think: What will the UNSC's function be in Halo: 4?

[Edited on 08.28.2011 3:24 PM PDT]

  • 08.28.2011 3:23 PM PDT

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Depending on the timeframe, I can now go either way. If it's pre-2610, no. Post-2610, sure. If we see Cole, obviously I'll want to know why he is snooping around Forerunner installations, but it may work.

  • 08.28.2011 3:26 PM PDT

I am alpha, i am omega.

I am the last of the primes.

The unsc will get woned, well owned even more then now.

  • 08.28.2011 3:27 PM PDT

By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

They said at Halo Fest on the Halo 4 panel that the Warthog's 2554 model would have been around towards the end of 2552, whilst I questioned myself about that statement, I think it's pretty clear they're talking about a canonical reason to graphically upgrade the Warthog.

With humanity focusing on rebuilding post-Halo 3, I think the UNSC may well have eroded due to not even being needed. They're not fighting anymore.

  • 08.28.2011 3:28 PM PDT

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Posted by: ferrrari
The unsc will get woned, well owned even more then now.


Why do you say that?

  • 08.29.2011 12:14 PM PDT

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Well the warthog doesn't confirm anything. It is a 2554 model that was released in late 2552. So I'm still not sure about UNSC yet, but i find it hard to believe they will not be in Halo 4.

  • 08.29.2011 12:17 PM PDT

Halo is one of the most important part of my life.

It will be important.

117 possibly is going to find another threat to the universe so i think that the UNSC will support him while the Elites are busy figthin they war against the Loyalist to the Coventant.


Thats all. XD

[Edited on 08.29.2011 12:19 PM PDT]

  • 08.29.2011 12:18 PM PDT

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The Warthog has been confirmed, but I have a feeling that the UNSC won't be helping you, though?...

  • 08.29.2011 12:28 PM PDT

I suppose that the UNSC would still be around after halo 3 mainly as peacekeepers to stop civil unrest and after nearly being eradicated by an alien civilisation that humainty would have some form of fighting force in case they were ever attacked again

  • 08.29.2011 12:32 PM PDT

I think the UNSC won't be. Or, in the concept art trailer is true of the current take on the halo 4 campaign, the UNSC arrives sometime. Hopefully a while after Chief.

Anyway, I'm fairly sure the warthogs will be used from the Forward Unto Dawn hanger due to how heavily they hit on the warthog surviving a frigate crashing from orbit and being used to help the marines survive a tough world.

  • 08.29.2011 12:33 PM PDT

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In some concept art you see the wreckage of what looks like Human ships in the planet.

  • 08.29.2011 2:15 PM PDT

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Posted by: ajw34307
They said at Halo Fest on the Halo 4 panel that the Warthog's 2554 model would have been around towards the end of 2552, whilst I questioned myself about that statement, I think it's pretty clear they're talking about a canonical reason to graphically upgrade the Warthog.

With humanity focusing on rebuilding post-Halo 3, I think the UNSC may well have eroded due to not even being needed. They're not fighting anymore.


UNSC Does more than fight,

They basically run the place.

  • 08.29.2011 3:30 PM PDT

The UNSC will likely be in Halo 4. There were concepts of destroyed ships and pelicans. They're in. I think Karens Trilogy will dive into why they arrived at the LP. They said it leads into Halo 4.

[Edited on 08.29.2011 3:33 PM PDT]

  • 08.29.2011 3:32 PM PDT
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Posted by: Sniffy66
The UNSC will likely be in Halo 4. There were concepts of destroyed ships and pelicans. They're in. I think Karens Trilogy will dive into why they arrived at the LP. They said it leads into Halo 4.


I disagree if Halo 4 is set in early 2560s. NOTICE: a key word of 2560s.

That's too early for UNSC to be suddenly recovered and capable to send navy ships. Oh no, you have not read several books or even went on Halopedian on Human-Covenant War. It lasted twenty-seven years of war and it has taken toll to UNSC and Covenant considerably. That losses made by the UNSC is too great for UNSC to recover quickly...

However, if it is set post 2610s, then it would be acceptable. Besides that warthog model is confirmed in Halo 4 but it doesn't prove that UNSC is in Halo 4. Warthog is getting a simple graphical update, that's all.

Besides, some concept art may get cut in the game since they can't fit everything in a game. They has to make some sacrifices.

[Edited on 08.29.2011 3:39 PM PDT]

  • 08.29.2011 3:37 PM PDT


Posted by: raganok99

Posted by: Sniffy66
The UNSC will likely be in Halo 4. There were concepts of destroyed ships and pelicans. They're in. I think Karens Trilogy will dive into why they arrived at the LP. They said it leads into Halo 4.


I disagree if Halo 4 is set in early 2560s. NOTICE: a key word of 2560s.

That's too early for UNSC to be suddenly recovered and capable to send navy ships. Oh no, you have not read several books or even went on Halopedian on Human-Covenant War. It lasted twenty-seven years of war and it has taken toll to UNSC and Covenant considerably. That losses made by the UNSC is too great for UNSC to recover quickly...

However, if it is set post 2610s, then it would be acceptable. Besides that warthog model is confirmed in Halo 4 but it doesn't prove that UNSC is in Halo 4. Warthog is getting a simple graphical update, that's all.

Besides, some concept art may get cut in the game since they can't fit everything in a game. They has to make some sacrifices.
What role does the year play into weather or not the UNSC is at the LP? Tell me that. All I said is that there are concepts of UNSC ships and pelicans and that Karens novel plays into Halo 4. I also know that concepts aren't final. Yeah that scene might not be in it and such. However you don't show concepts of UNSC in Halo 4 if they're not in Halo 4. That's like making a game during the Forerunner-Flood war and showing concepts of Assault Carriers after what? 2 years of developement?

  • 08.29.2011 3:50 PM PDT
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Posted by: Sniffy66

Posted by: raganok99

Posted by: Sniffy66
The UNSC will likely be in Halo 4. There were concepts of destroyed ships and pelicans. They're in. I think Karens Trilogy will dive into why they arrived at the LP. They said it leads into Halo 4.


I disagree if Halo 4 is set in early 2560s. NOTICE: a key word of 2560s.

That's too early for UNSC to be suddenly recovered and capable to send navy ships. Oh no, you have not read several books or even went on Halopedian on Human-Covenant War. It lasted twenty-seven years of war and it has taken toll to UNSC and Covenant considerably. That losses made by the UNSC is too great for UNSC to recover quickly...

However, if it is set post 2610s, then it would be acceptable. Besides that warthog model is confirmed in Halo 4 but it doesn't prove that UNSC is in Halo 4. Warthog is getting a simple graphical update, that's all.

Besides, some concept art may get cut in the game since they can't fit everything in a game. They has to make some sacrifices.
What role does the year play into weather or not the UNSC is at the LP? Tell me that. All I said is that there are concepts of UNSC ships and pelicans and that Karens novel plays into Halo 4. I also know that concepts aren't final. Yeah that scene might not be in it and such. However you don't show concepts of UNSC in Halo 4 if they're not in Halo 4. That's like making a game during the Forerunner-Flood war and showing concepts of Assault Carriers after what? 2 years of developement?


Example: Halo 2.

They cut of contents such as Forerunner tank as it was shown in concept art.

Also timeline is KEY of determining UNSC's capabilites. If it's set in 2554 or 2555, they haven't fully recovered then. If it's more like 2580 to 2600s, sure, they have recovered.

Besides, it sounds like you can't live without UNSC or Covenant at Halo 4. ;/

[Edited on 08.29.2011 3:53 PM PDT]

  • 08.29.2011 3:52 PM PDT


Posted by: raganok99

Posted by: Sniffy66

Posted by: raganok99

Posted by: Sniffy66
The UNSC will likely be in Halo 4. There were concepts of destroyed ships and pelicans. They're in. I think Karens Trilogy will dive into why they arrived at the LP. They said it leads into Halo 4.


I disagree if Halo 4 is set in early 2560s. NOTICE: a key word of 2560s.

That's too early for UNSC to be suddenly recovered and capable to send navy ships. Oh no, you have not read several books or even went on Halopedian on Human-Covenant War. It lasted twenty-seven years of war and it has taken toll to UNSC and Covenant considerably. That losses made by the UNSC is too great for UNSC to recover quickly...

However, if it is set post 2610s, then it would be acceptable. Besides that warthog model is confirmed in Halo 4 but it doesn't prove that UNSC is in Halo 4. Warthog is getting a simple graphical update, that's all.

Besides, some concept art may get cut in the game since they can't fit everything in a game. They has to make some sacrifices.
What role does the year play into weather or not the UNSC is at the LP? Tell me that. All I said is that there are concepts of UNSC ships and pelicans and that Karens novel plays into Halo 4. I also know that concepts aren't final. Yeah that scene might not be in it and such. However you don't show concepts of UNSC in Halo 4 if they're not in Halo 4. That's like making a game during the Forerunner-Flood war and showing concepts of Assault Carriers after what? 2 years of developement?


Example: Halo 2.

They cut of contents such as Forerunner tank as it was shown in concept art.
Was there forerunner ruins in Halo 2? Sentinels and such? That's a vehicle. I'm talking about a faction.


Posted by: raganok99
Oh no, you have not read several books or even went on Halopedian on Human-Covenant War. It lasted twenty-seven years of war and it has taken toll to UNSC and Covenant considerably. That losses made by the UNSC is too great for UNSC to recover quickly.
Really now? You think I don't know that? I won't yell at you and get into a flame war. I'm just disappointed. That was totally unnecessary.

  • 08.29.2011 3:54 PM PDT

@accordingto343

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Then why did such a thought escape your mind?

  • 08.29.2011 3:59 PM PDT

How does it sound like I can't live without them being in it? I'm fine if they're not. It's just all the evidence points to them being in Halo 4. You don't know why the UNSC is there. No one does. Karens novel deals with post UNSC and it leads into Halo 4. For all we know that "ancient evil" could be affecting the UNSC in the new novel. Likely not the focus of the first book but maybe sometime in the second or third. Maybe there's a reason they had to get there that wasn't the chief. No one knows except 343.

  • 08.29.2011 4:00 PM PDT

@accordingto343

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And yet somehow despite still recovering from heavy loses, the UNSC poses a legitimate threat to the Timeless One?

  • 08.29.2011 4:01 PM PDT

i ac hope that the UNSC isn't in H4.
i really want 2 see something new.

  • 08.29.2011 4:01 PM PDT
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Sniffy66

Really now? You think I don't know that? I won't yell at you and get into a flame war. I'm just disappointed. That was totally unnecessary.


that's because you thought that Halo 4 should have UNSC. What? It shows that you never bothered to research about Human-Covenant War. Explain how this humanity is capable to recover 27 year of war in short of five years? And, explain how they can produce enough navy ships fast enough to replace their entire losses?

Glasslands, in my assumption, will describe that UNSC is still recovering.

Frankly, I don't think you understand how the war affects the nation and aftermath of war affecting the nation's capability to recover or other something.

  • 08.29.2011 4:04 PM PDT


Posted by: DecepticonCobra
And yet somehow despite still recovering from heavy loses, the UNSC poses a legitimate threat to the Timeless One?
Who says they're a threat? Who says they would even know about the Timeless One? No one does. I'm just trying to tell him we don't know why the UNSC is there. Well technically they could be a threat to the timeless one as they showed a human weapon in the e3 teaser. If he, or his forces if they are the antagonists then they can definitely be killed by bullets/human tech.

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If the Chief has access to a warthog after being cut off from the UNSC for a while, then that can only mean there will be UNSC forces involved. Who else would supply him with it if the UNSC did decide to disband? Besides, its like the military of any country in the real world. Even if there's no war going on, or no major threat, the army is still there.

  • 08.29.2011 4:05 PM PDT

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