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Subject: Whos better Master Chief or Noble team


Posted by: Juan Teran

Posted by: HipiO7
This thread gives me headache with all the idiocy.

I dont know why I keep comming back here...
I know that feeling. Thanks to all those "intelligent" arguments of people defending Reach campaign, I'm not even sure if it's worth posting in here anymore.


I know the feeling of shaking my head at seeing the utter and blind hatred at something and pointlessly attacking those who like it.

  • 09.10.2011 5:32 PM PDT


Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron

Posted by: Juan Teran

Posted by: HipiO7
This thread gives me headache with all the idiocy.

I dont know why I keep comming back here...
I know that feeling. Thanks to all those "intelligent" arguments of people defending Reach campaign, I'm not even sure if it's worth posting in here anymore.


I know the feeling of shaking my head at seeing the utter and blind hatred at something and pointlessly attacking those who like it.
Welcome to our cause, brother. Those who can't see how Halo: Reach breaks the whole canon will eventually see the light.

WE WILL SUCCEED!

  • 09.10.2011 5:34 PM PDT

"I may not be perfect, but always been true."


Posted by: Juan Teran

Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron

Posted by: Juan Teran

Posted by: HipiO7
This thread gives me headache with all the idiocy.

I dont know why I keep comming back here...
I know that feeling. Thanks to all those "intelligent" arguments of people defending Reach campaign, I'm not even sure if it's worth posting in here anymore.


I know the feeling of shaking my head at seeing the utter and blind hatred at something and pointlessly attacking those who like it.
Welcome to our cause, brother. Those who can't see how Halo: Reach breaks the whole canon will eventually see the light.

WE WILL SUCCEED!


loludungetit.

  • 09.10.2011 5:38 PM PDT

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

Fanboys going with Chief, here is a basic math problem for you. What's a higher number, 6 or 1? Chief loses.

  • 09.10.2011 6:27 PM PDT


Posted by: RKOSNAKE

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HOW DARE YOU SAY THAT TO MASTER CHEIF HE HAS LIVED 3 GAMES NOBLE TEAM LIVED 1 SO DON'T GO THERE PUNK. (you can't especially because he fought the flood and did the noble team do it ... no ...no they didn't


Cause yeah, living longer is obviously being better, does that means that Jar Jar Binks is better than Obi Wan?


With this I think we can set aside the whole 'Chief is better because he didn't die', argument.

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Posted by: chotato
smart, interesting, seems out of place.


Official fan of Assassin's Creed, Call of Duty, (Problem with that?) Halo, and Bungie, also a total gaming junkie.

Had Master Chief been in Noble Team, he would've died sometime after Kat or with Noble 6.

  • 09.11.2011 5:16 AM PDT
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Posted by: chotato
smart, interesting, seems out of place.


Official fan of Assassin's Creed, Call of Duty, (Problem with that?) Halo, and Bungie, also a total gaming junkie.

Posted by: Juan Teran

Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron

Posted by: Juan Teran

Posted by: HipiO7
This thread gives me headache with all the idiocy.

I dont know why I keep comming back here...
I know that feeling. Thanks to all those "intelligent" arguments of people defending Reach campaign, I'm not even sure if it's worth posting in here anymore.


I know the feeling of shaking my head at seeing the utter and blind hatred at something and pointlessly attacking those who like it.
Welcome to our cause, brother. Those who can't see how Halo: Reach breaks the whole canon will eventually see the light.

WE WILL SUCCEED!


I know it breaks canon on a massive scale. But its crappy canon that it breaks. TFoR was pathetic, it was all about Chief and then had about 20 pages for the actual Fall of Reach. It was pathetic how Nylund described it, making it sound like they went down with a whimper, and not fighting. That is one good thing that came out of Reach's HORRIBLE campaign, they at least sent Reach down fighting instead of instantly being glassed.

  • 09.11.2011 5:21 AM PDT


Posted by: DecepticonCobra
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Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Had Master Chief been in any of Noble Team's shoes, he would've dropped faster than a red shirt character in Star Trek. Noble Six, had she had an opportunity to go to Alpha Halo, would've outperformed Chief any day of the week.


How so?

Chief: He makes numerous, near deadly mistakes in Halo lore ranging from lack of situational awareness, being overpowered by superior foes, and failing to heed the advice of his team.

Six: Six is a lone wolf who single handily wiped away rebel and milita groups, something Chief never did with the aid of his team. She would be much better suited for the lonely nature of Halo.


yes, but i believe master chief and blue team took out an entire rebel base before their armor was even invented.

  • 09.11.2011 1:07 PM PDT

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

Posted by: kaptainkool96

Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Posted by: SneakerheadSwag

Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Had Master Chief been in any of Noble Team's shoes, he would've dropped faster than a red shirt character in Star Trek. Noble Six, had she had an opportunity to go to Alpha Halo, would've outperformed Chief any day of the week.


How so?

Chief: He makes numerous, near deadly mistakes in Halo lore ranging from lack of situational awareness, being overpowered by superior foes, and failing to heed the advice of his team.

Six: Six is a lone wolf who single handily wiped away rebel and milita groups, something Chief never did with the aid of his team. She would be much better suited for the lonely nature of Halo.


yes, but i believe master chief and blue team took out an entire rebel base before their armor was even invented.


They did not destroy a rebel base, they did some damage and kidnapped their leader. Six made bases and groups vanish.

  • 09.11.2011 1:09 PM PDT

Yeah, there is a difference with sneaking in, kidnapping the leader, then blowing a hole in the dock doors and flying out, and going in and killing every single rebel soldier in the base.

  • 09.11.2011 1:18 PM PDT


Posted by: Ktan Dantaktee
Posted by: Juan Teran

Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron

Posted by: Juan Teran

Posted by: HipiO7
This thread gives me headache with all the idiocy.

I dont know why I keep comming back here...
I know that feeling. Thanks to all those "intelligent" arguments of people defending Reach campaign, I'm not even sure if it's worth posting in here anymore.


I know the feeling of shaking my head at seeing the utter and blind hatred at something and pointlessly attacking those who like it.
Welcome to our cause, brother. Those who can't see how Halo: Reach breaks the whole canon will eventually see the light.

WE WILL SUCCEED!


I know it breaks canon on a massive scale. But its crappy canon that it breaks. TFoR was pathetic, it was all about Chief and then had about 20 pages for the actual Fall of Reach. It was pathetic how Nylund described it, making it sound like they went down with a whimper, and not fighting. That is one good thing that came out of Reach's HORRIBLE campaign, they at least sent Reach down fighting instead of instantly being glassed.


It's more of a devastation when Reach was potrayed as falling quite quick. The slaughter on the Covenants behalf was what made it epic. Reach, one of the most powerful colonies reduced to nothing is a scary concept especially when Earth is really humanities last stand.

Sure the concept of going down fighting seems noble and epic but I think the concept of realising a genocidal super power is knocking on Earths door step whilst destroying anything in it's path with ease...well...it builds a better atmosphere of anything. Add this to the background of you trying to save humanity in the trilogy and you got yourself some golden motivation.

[Edited on 09.11.2011 6:18 PM PDT]

  • 09.11.2011 6:17 PM PDT
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Chief. No question.

  • 09.11.2011 6:40 PM PDT

Chief would win with his plot shield, without that N6 would win.

  • 09.11.2011 8:43 PM PDT


Posted by: AH4L
Chief. No question.


Noble Six. No question.

See what I did there?

  • 09.11.2011 10:36 PM PDT

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  • 09.11.2011 11:14 PM PDT
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People keep brining up NOBLE 6 taking out militia groups. So What? He can take out groups of humans that don't really have weapons capable of getting through the suit? While NOBLE 6 was panzying around with rebels, Master Chief and Blue team were slaughtering Covenant Armies. Fred was said to have paticipated in 120 campaigns. Being part of blue Team, it is logical to assume master chief has that number or more. 6 is good, but you all seem to be over-exaggerating his power.

  • 09.12.2011 11:37 AM PDT

"I may not be perfect, but always been true."


Posted by: superiorarsenal
People keep brining up NOBLE 6 taking out militia groups. So What? He can take out groups of humans that don't really have weapons capable of getting through the suit? While NOBLE 6 was panzying around with rebels, Master Chief and Blue team were slaughtering Covenant Armies. Fred was said to have paticipated in 120 campaigns. Being part of blue Team, it is logical to assume master chief has that number or more. 6 is good, but you all seem to be over-exaggerating his power.


John, Fred and Linda almost got killed by rebels once, Kurt had to save them after they refused to listen to his warnings.

Oh and that was when they had their Mark IV armor, so no "the armor can repel the bullets" argument from you.

  • 09.12.2011 12:27 PM PDT
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Actually, it can. The only reason they were captured was because they tricked the suit into over-pressurizing, knocking them out, and then they put nerve-collars on them. This could've easily happened to NOBLE 6.

Something I find with Bungie.net.

You all seem to take certian one-time events as if they happen all the time, or you take them out of context. For example, Master Chief fighting the Brute in First Strike. He was taken off guard by an enemy that he had never seen. The Brute is physically stronger and got him in a grapple, something which is very dangerous if you are weaker. MC was almost killed, but turned the fight to his side and won. Then he preceded to kill dozens of Brutes in Halo 2-3.

Saying MC got beat by an innie base is invalid. Blue Team was well on the way to victory. The only problem was that Innies some how figured out Blue Team was coming and made the whole situation a trap. If I remember, they also had a MAKO Drone helping them to. For some reason, you feel that this somehow negates Master Chief serving in 120 other campaigns. All that was said is that NOBLE 6 has made militia groups disappear. We don't know the size of them, the equipmenet, the training, or any other variable.

  • 09.12.2011 1:06 PM PDT


Posted by: superiorarsenal
Actually, it can. The only reason they were captured was because they tricked the suit into over-pressurizing, knocking them out, and then they put nerve-collars on them. This could've easily happened to NOBLE 6.

Something I find with Bungie.net.

You all seem to take certian one-time events as if they happen all the time, or you take them out of context. For example, Master Chief fighting the Brute in First Strike. He was taken off guard by an enemy that he had never seen. The Brute is physically stronger and got him in a grapple, something which is very dangerous if you are weaker. MC was almost killed, but turned the fight to his side and won. Then he preceded to kill dozens of Brutes in Halo 2-3.

Saying MC got beat by an innie base is invalid. Blue Team was well on the way to victory. The only problem was that Innies some how figured out Blue Team was coming and made the whole situation a trap. If I remember, they also had a MAKO Drone helping them to. For some reason, you feel that this somehow negates Master Chief serving in 120 other campaigns. All that was said is that NOBLE 6 has made militia groups disappear. We don't know the size of them, the equipmenet, the training, or any other variable.


I take my hat of to you dear sir and I also agree with you 100%.

People think Noble 6 taking a few militia groups is amazing whereas they forget that John was involved in a mission that destroyed 486 capital ships on the Unyielding Hierophant. Now before you all point it out, I'm aware John didn't do it on his own and did work with his fellow SPARTAN's and a few other good men during this mission, but no more then half a dozen other people were involved (which is impressive)...the point is it makes a few militia groups sound like childs play and pretty much dwarfs Noble 6 taking out a group of human hostiles.

[Edited on 09.12.2011 3:28 PM PDT]

  • 09.12.2011 3:23 PM PDT

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Posted by: Surperion93

Posted by: superiorarsenal
Actually, it can. The only reason they were captured was because they tricked the suit into over-pressurizing, knocking them out, and then they put nerve-collars on them. This could've easily happened to NOBLE 6.

Something I find with Bungie.net.

You all seem to take certian one-time events as if they happen all the time, or you take them out of context. For example, Master Chief fighting the Brute in First Strike. He was taken off guard by an enemy that he had never seen. The Brute is physically stronger and got him in a grapple, something which is very dangerous if you are weaker. MC was almost killed, but turned the fight to his side and won. Then he preceded to kill dozens of Brutes in Halo 2-3.

Saying MC got beat by an innie base is invalid. Blue Team was well on the way to victory. The only problem was that Innies some how figured out Blue Team was coming and made the whole situation a trap. If I remember, they also had a MAKO Drone helping them to. For some reason, you feel that this somehow negates Master Chief serving in 120 other campaigns. All that was said is that NOBLE 6 has made militia groups disappear. We don't know the size of them, the equipmenet, the training, or any other variable.


I take my hat of to you dear sir and I also agree with you 100%.

People think Noble 6 taking a few militia groups is amazing whereas they forget that John was involved in a mission that destroyed 486 capital ships on the Unyielding Hierophant. Now before you all point it out, I'm aware John didn't do it on his own and did work with his fellow SPARTAN's and a few other good men during this mission, but no more then half a dozen other people were involved (which is impressive)...the point is it makes a few militia groups sound like childs play and pretty much dwarfs Noble 6 taking out a group of human hostiles.


You do realize that without Cortana they wouldn't have gotten past the first door, right?

  • 09.12.2011 7:01 PM PDT
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Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Fanboys going with Chief, here is a basic math problem for you. What's a higher number, 6 or 1? Chief loses.


I have read all 14 pages, and you sir, are the most intelligent life-form I have found on these forums.

I tip my long black top-hat to you for your knowledge of the Halo universe and your ability to use basic logic.

Everything this man has said is accurate

/no sarcasm

  • 09.12.2011 9:10 PM PDT
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Off the top of my memory (apologies if errors) here are some example MC has been outclassed

- Elite minor on Gamma station
- Spec Ops elite aboard Acendant Justice
- Brute on Unyielding Heirophant
- Grunts on Ascendant Justice
- Flood spawn, (MC is nearly infected at one point, saved by Cortana)
- Hunters, Cote de Azure (Spelling?)

  • 09.12.2011 9:13 PM PDT

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Posted by: The Ruello
Off the top of my memory (apologies if errors) here are some example MC has been outclassed

- Elite minor on Gamma station
- Spec Ops elite aboard Acendant Justice
- Brute on Unyielding Heirophant
- Grunts on Ascendant Justice
- Flood spawn, (MC is nearly infected at one point, saved by Cortana)
- Hunters, Cote de Azure (Spelling?)


Don't forget the rebels at the Asteroid Belt and that one time where Kurt had to save him(He got injured, if I remember correctly)(also, there's no excuse for John's lack of sense with the latter, if the guy that always sniffs out traps is telling you that something is off, then something is off)

The Jackal in the light cruiser that broke Sam's MJOLNIR (Sam pushed John out of the way and took the bolt for him, so technically he would be dead if it wasn't for Sam)

  • 09.12.2011 9:17 PM PDT
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Posted by: RKOSNAKE

Posted by: The Ruello
Off the top of my memory (apologies if errors) here are some example MC has been outclassed

- Elite minor on Gamma station
- Spec Ops elite aboard Acendant Justice
- Brute on Unyielding Heirophant
- Grunts on Ascendant Justice
- Flood spawn, (MC is nearly infected at one point, saved by Cortana)
- Hunters, Cote de Azure (Spelling?)


Don't forget the rebels at the Asteroid Belt and that one time where Kurt had to save him(He got injured, if I remember correctly)(also, there's no excuse for John's lack of sense with the latter, if the guy that always sniffs out traps is telling you that something is off, then something is off)

The Jackal in the light cruiser that broke Sam's MJOLNIR (Sam pushed John out of the way and took the bolt for him, so technically he would be dead if it wasn't for Sam)



Ahh how could I forget those! Good spotting, To those who say SII's have better genes than SII's, wouldn't you assume that there are some SIII's that had the genetic make-up for an SII? Obviously they all didn't quite match up, but N6 is a perfect example of someone who may have made up for 'lack of augmentations' (or what ever SII fanboys say) with his superior genetics / natural talent

  • 09.12.2011 11:06 PM PDT


Posted by: The Ruello

Posted by: RKOSNAKE

Posted by: The Ruello
Off the top of my memory (apologies if errors) here are some example MC has been outclassed

- Elite minor on Gamma station
- Spec Ops elite aboard Acendant Justice
- Brute on Unyielding Heirophant
- Grunts on Ascendant Justice
- Flood spawn, (MC is nearly infected at one point, saved by Cortana)
- Hunters, Cote de Azure (Spelling?)


Don't forget the rebels at the Asteroid Belt and that one time where Kurt had to save him(He got injured, if I remember correctly)(also, there's no excuse for John's lack of sense with the latter, if the guy that always sniffs out traps is telling you that something is off, then something is off)

The Jackal in the light cruiser that broke Sam's MJOLNIR (Sam pushed John out of the way and took the bolt for him, so technically he would be dead if it wasn't for Sam)



Ahh how could I forget those! Good spotting, To those who say SII's have better genes than SII's, wouldn't you assume that there are some SIII's that had the genetic make-up for an SII? Obviously they all didn't quite match up, but N6 is a perfect example of someone who may have made up for 'lack of augmentations' (or what ever SII fanboys say) with his superior genetics / natural talent


It's not just what S-II fanboys say, it's actually fact. It's about time everyone got over the truth and stop trying to put it down. The closest to a S-II (maybe even better) is Gamma Company. That is all.

[Edited on 09.13.2011 12:57 AM PDT]

  • 09.13.2011 12:56 AM PDT