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Subject: Whos better Master Chief or Noble team

to me it really doesn't matter whos better i just like to kick ass in the game. to me the covenent wouldnt stand a chance against either of them. so really it just depends on the skills of the player.

  • 09.14.2011 9:39 PM PDT
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Master Chief would win in a one on one battle between him and any member of Noble Team (except maybe Jorge), but Noble Team would likely win if they ganged up. In terms of who I like more, I like John. He represents Halo to me, while Noble Team is just an add on.

  • 09.14.2011 10:58 PM PDT


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THe S-IIIs operate basically the same on a teamwork level from what I've seen. They both use a "silent language." The only difference is the S-IIIs seem to NEED teamwork while S-IIs seem to do just fine without it.


The only reason the SIII's [i]''need''[/url] teamwork is 100% because of their inferior SPI armor, which makes them vunerable compared to the armor the SII's have. Had all the Spartan III's had MJLONIR like the Spartan II's, they wouldint be so dependent on teamwork.


That and less physical capabilities.


It states no where that SIII's are less physically capable than SII's.

They pretty much recieved the same augmentations, and the only difference between Spartan III's and Spartan II's is the age and experience. The member of NOBLE Team from Alpha Company, could almost certainly, equal a Spartan II on physical prowess without armor.


No, they are not the same in physical prowess.

S-II's have an extra augmentation (people STOP dismissing this, it is fact). Sure we don't know the difference between S-II's and S-III's that this causes, but it is still there and in theory means S-II's are stronger then S-III's. To ignore this is ignorant. So S-II's not only have years worth of experience but an extra augmentation.

In theory a S-II physical prowess would be better then S-III's. But for S-III fans benifit lets say this extra augmentation does very LITTLE strength boosting. It STILL would be effective. If you are the same physically in every way EXCEPT the other guy is a little stronger then that guy INSTANTLY has the upper hand. Let's say you are both throwing punches at super human strength and dodging them at 300% boost in reaction time then logically if you both throw an eaqual amount of punches then the S-II would do more damage.

It's not a HUGE point, but is a point none the less and should be considered. The more you ignore it the more desperate you sound to try and make S-III's seem just like S-II's. Also this isn't blind fanboyism for S-II's. I am just stating what I know that are also facts FYI.

If the S-III was part of Gamma company then I would probably go with Gamma company when it comes to winning 1v1 conflicts...but they would need more experience for me to be fully convinced...but none of Noble team are part of Gamma so yeah, my point still stands. 1v1 john has more of a chance of winning but 6 SPARTANS Vs 1 SPARTAN leads to a pretty obvious answer.

[Edited on 09.15.2011 3:22 AM PDT]

  • 09.15.2011 3:16 AM PDT
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Wort Wort Wort!!!!!!!!!

What question are we answering here? What exactly does "better" mean? Better soldier? Who would win? Well that's just stupid. MC is (IMO) superior to each Noble Member INDIVIDUALLY (with the exception of perhaps Jorge), but 6 on 1 is impossible. Perhaps Chief with Arby, Cortana, and Johnson?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Johnson is a SPARTAN-I, right?

[Edited on 09.21.2011 5:25 PM PDT]

  • 09.21.2011 5:10 PM PDT

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Noble team of course.
Master Chief = 1 S-II. - (1)
Noble team = 1 S-II + 5 S-III. - (2)
Since (2) - (1) > 0 Noble team > Master chief.
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  • 10.08.2011 3:13 PM PDT

NOBLE Team, because they symbolize the true honor code, and what it truly means to be a warrior of ancient Sparta.

  • 10.08.2011 3:56 PM PDT
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I don't quite understand the question.
But MC would probably beat everybody on Noble 1V1,except maybe Jorge.
But Noble beats MC cause of numbers.
Now if Chief had his team..........

  • 10.08.2011 4:11 PM PDT


Posted by: Voro Nar Talamee
I don't quite understand the question.
But MC would probably beat everybody on Noble 1V1,except maybe Jorge.
But Noble beats MC cause of numbers.
Now if Chief had his team..........


Its Fred's team now. If you mean Ntho Sroam, Usze Taham, and Arbiter, NO.

Play Lone Wolf again and come back to tell me how well those ZEALOTS fared against Noble Six, Seven of them to be exact.

Three should be of no real problem for him.

  • 10.08.2011 4:14 PM PDT
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Posted by: Voro Nar Talamee
I don't quite understand the question.
But MC would probably beat everybody on Noble 1V1,except maybe Jorge.
But Noble beats MC cause of numbers.
Now if Chief had his team..........


Its Fred's team now. If you mean Ntho Sroam, Usze Taham, and Arbiter, NO.

Play Lone Wolf again and come back to tell me how well those ZEALOTS fared against Noble Six, Seven of them to be exact.

Three should be of no real problem for him.
By Chief's team I mean't blue team, I understand He isn't the leader, but he's part of that team. and in lone wolf most of the Elites where lower ranked than Zealot, the only Zealot in the ending cutscene was the one he kicked the energy sword off of,which due to the way the Zealot used his armblade most likely killed him.

[Edited on 10.08.2011 4:32 PM PDT]

  • 10.08.2011 4:28 PM PDT

The world is full of mysteries, and shares too few of the answers required. An example of which, is how did I end up in the Brute Zone?

Master Chief is still alive soooooooo...

  • 10.08.2011 4:31 PM PDT


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Master Chief is still alive soooooooo...


So, he does not know what true victory feels like.

  • 10.08.2011 4:35 PM PDT

M4ST3R CH33F LOLOLLOLLOLOLO

  • 10.08.2011 5:07 PM PDT
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just because the master chief is alive dosent mean hes awesome so for me NOBLE TEAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • 10.08.2011 5:22 PM PDT
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Posted by: ThePredkiller2

Posted by: Voro Nar Talamee
I don't quite understand the question.
But MC would probably beat everybody on Noble 1V1,except maybe Jorge.
But Noble beats MC cause of numbers.
Now if Chief had his team..........


Its Fred's team now. If you mean Ntho Sroam, Usze Taham, and Arbiter, NO.

Play Lone Wolf again and come back to tell me how well those ZEALOTS fared against Noble Six, Seven of them to be exact.

Three should be of no real problem for him.


I hate when people say this. It is NOT Fred's team now. You all assume just because Master Chief is away he is no longer part of the team. Have you forgot he is the leader of the S-IIs? That he controls the rosters for the teams(For the most part)? Its not like MC was kicked out of Blue Team. The Blue Team from Ghosts of Onyx was still Master Chief's Blue Team, he was just elsewhere during the conflict.

If you can't find the leader of your squad does that automatically mean that he is no longer part of the squad?

  • 10.08.2011 7:21 PM PDT
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I'm not like the people at the Reach Forum, I swear. Also, I don't just play Halo: Reach anymore.

I made this account a couple weeks after getting Halo: Reach. I never ever played a halo game before, so I thought this would be a good username. I was wrong, so hoplessly wrong, and I wish I could change it. But I must push on...

FOR NARNIAAAAAAAAA!

One SPARTAN II (MC) vs. 5 highly advanced SPARTAN III's and a SPARTAN II (Noble Team)... I wonder who would win.

Noble Team, of course, but not without a few losses, IF Master Chief still has his luck factor.

  • 10.08.2011 7:27 PM PDT
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If it was 1v3 I could see the fight going down like in Transformers 2 were Optimus fights 3 decepticons. Kills 1, wounds/hurts another, is killed by the third.

My money is on Chief taking out 1 or 2 of them, and then losing.(One being Kat for sure...)

  • 10.08.2011 7:35 PM PDT


Posted by: superiorarsenal

Posted by: ThePredkiller2

Posted by: Voro Nar Talamee
I don't quite understand the question.
But MC would probably beat everybody on Noble 1V1,except maybe Jorge.
But Noble beats MC cause of numbers.
Now if Chief had his team..........


Its Fred's team now. If you mean Ntho Sroam, Usze Taham, and Arbiter, NO.

Play Lone Wolf again and come back to tell me how well those ZEALOTS fared against Noble Six, Seven of them to be exact.

Three should be of no real problem for him.


I hate when people say this. It is NOT Fred's team now. You all assume just because Master Chief is away he is no longer part of the team. Have you forgot he is the leader of the S-IIs? That he controls the rosters for the teams(For the most part)? Its not like MC was kicked out of Blue Team. The Blue Team from Ghosts of Onyx was still Master Chief's Blue Team, he was just elsewhere during the conflict.

If you can't find the leader of your squad does that automatically mean that he is no longer part of the squad?


Lieutenant is still a higher rank than a Master Chief Petty Officer, thus, John receives orders from Fred now. It is Fred's team.

  • 10.08.2011 9:21 PM PDT


Posted by: superiorarsenal
I hate when people say this. It is NOT Fred's team now. You all assume just because Master Chief is away he is no longer part of the team. Have you forgot he is the leader of the S-IIs? That he controls the rosters for the teams(For the most part)? Its not like MC was kicked out of Blue Team. The Blue Team from Ghosts of Onyx was still Master Chief's Blue Team, he was just elsewhere during the conflict.

If you can't find the leader of your squad does that automatically mean that he is no longer part of the squad?


I've given you evidence that points that Blue Team's roster no longer has Master Chief listed by the time of Ghosts of Onyx.

If you fellow soldier is operating outside the squad for an extended period of time, do you keep him on the roster as leader? No.

  • 10.08.2011 10:43 PM PDT


Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron

Posted by: superiorarsenal
I hate when people say this. It is NOT Fred's team now. You all assume just because Master Chief is away he is no longer part of the team. Have you forgot he is the leader of the S-IIs? That he controls the rosters for the teams(For the most part)? Its not like MC was kicked out of Blue Team. The Blue Team from Ghosts of Onyx was still Master Chief's Blue Team, he was just elsewhere during the conflict.

If you can't find the leader of your squad does that automatically mean that he is no longer part of the squad?


I've given you evidence that points that Blue Team's roster no longer has Master Chief listed by the time of Ghosts of Onyx.

If you fellow soldier is operating outside the squad for an extended period of time, do you keep him on the roster as leader? No.


Common sense people.

  • 10.08.2011 11:27 PM PDT
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I'm grey.... da boo de da boo dae

"Then we have everything from the people who purposefully takes vehicles into buildings and places they shouldn't be, to those who kill every friendly human for -blam!-s and giggles, to idiots who only melee and teabag corpses." you mean like when someone is having fun?

  • 10.09.2011 1:50 AM PDT

By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

Well done, everyone. You've all managed to drag out a troll thread for 18 pages with a very childish argument about who the better Spartan is.

As if you all have nothing better to do?

  • 10.09.2011 5:53 AM PDT
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"I've given you evidence that points that Blue Team's roster no longer has Master Chief listed by the time of Ghosts of Onyx."


No, what you gave me is something from Halopedian that has no canon value. Just because some person went online and posted that on the page does not mean that it is correct. Hell, the Halopedian says that Onyx was destroyed, which in fact only the crust of the planet was removed, revealing the true Onyx.

A word to the wise, don't ever cite Halopedian. If you want to prove a point, use quotes from the books as your source.

  • 10.09.2011 9:28 AM PDT


Posted by: superiorarsenal
"I've given you evidence that points that Blue Team's roster no longer has Master Chief listed by the time of Ghosts of Onyx."


No, what you gave me is something from Halopedian that has no canon value. Just because some person went online and posted that on the page does not mean that it is correct. Hell, the Halopedian says that Onyx was destroyed, which in fact only the crust of the planet was removed, revealing the true Onyx.

A word to the wise, don't ever cite Halopedian. If you want to prove a point, use quotes from the books as your source.


A hint, a squad roster reflects who they have with them. The squad leader MUST be with the squad. Therefore, in Ghosts of Onyx, John-117 cannot be officially on blue team's roster as squad leader.

So, as described by somebody who did JROTC-ROTC, and knows military, for John to be listed as a member of blue team post halo 2 opening cutscene means they won't be acting as a military would.

For example, is Kaiden in ME2 considered part of Shepard's squad? Nope. Is Cole train in Gears 2 considered part of delta squad prior to meeting up? Nope.

In short, blue team is indeed Fred's team now.

Edit: Besides, if he was listed as part of blue team, that'd clutter the roster with useless information (as he isn't around).

edit2: If wanted, I can ask somebody who actually was in the US military about this stuff.

[Edited on 10.09.2011 10:13 AM PDT]

  • 10.09.2011 10:08 AM PDT
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Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron

Posted by: superiorarsenal
"I've given you evidence that points that Blue Team's roster no longer has Master Chief listed by the time of Ghosts of Onyx."


No, what you gave me is something from Halopedian that has no canon value. Just because some person went online and posted that on the page does not mean that it is correct. Hell, the Halopedian says that Onyx was destroyed, which in fact only the crust of the planet was removed, revealing the true Onyx.

A word to the wise, don't ever cite Halopedian. If you want to prove a point, use quotes from the books as your source.


A hint, a squad roster reflects who they have with them. The squad leader MUST be with the squad. Therefore, in Ghosts of Onyx, John-117 cannot be officially on blue team's roster as squad leader.

So, as described by somebody who did JROTC-ROTC, and knows military, for John to be listed as a member of blue team post halo 2 opening cutscene means they won't be acting as a military would.

For example, is Kaiden in ME2 considered part of Shepard's squad? Nope. Is Cole train in Gears 2 considered part of delta squad prior to meeting up? Nope.

In short, blue team is indeed Fred's team now.

Edit: Besides, if he was listed as part of blue team, that'd clutter the roster with useless information (as he isn't around).

edit2: If wanted, I can ask somebody who actually was in the US military about this stuff.


1)Except Blue Team is the designation of Master Chief's squad regardless of who is in it. So technically the Blue Teams are different from eachother, just like how Master Chief designated the S-IIs that went to Reach as Red Team, while Red Team already/still exists. Another thing, how exactly is the UNSC supposed to know that Fred outranks MC? As far as the UNSC is concered MC is still the leader of the SPARTANs. If Blue Team and Master Chief return, Fred would be recognized as the rank he was given by Kurt, and MC would almost without a doubt be promoted.

Also, your ME analogy is horrible. Shepard was actually dead, and then was part of an entirely different orginization from the Alliance. Kaiden/Ashely was also actually reassigned aswell, unlike Chief and the rest of Blue who were separated due to circumstances and not squad reassignement.

  • 10.09.2011 10:44 AM PDT

Friends before pixels.

Gameplay wise? Chief.

Canon wise? Noble because of their team training and ability to split up and gang up on him.

If Chief could keep them seperated, he'd win in a second.

  • 10.09.2011 10:53 AM PDT