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Subject: Whos better Master Chief or Noble team

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

Posted by: I Em I Raptor
This kid trying to argue with Deception is making my night better and better, lol!


You're welcome.

  • 10.09.2011 8:07 PM PDT


Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Posted by: I Em I Raptor
This kid trying to argue with Deception is making my night better and better, lol!


You're welcome.
Better get the popcorn. Also are you Chronarch on Greg Bears disscussion board? I remember someone here said they were but I'm not sure who.

  • 10.09.2011 8:13 PM PDT

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

Posted by: Sniffy66

Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Posted by: I Em I Raptor
This kid trying to argue with Deception is making my night better and better, lol!


You're welcome.
Better get the popcorn. Also are you Chronarch on Greg Bears disscussion board? I remember someone here said they were but I'm not sure who.


Naw, that's ajw34307.

  • 10.09.2011 8:17 PM PDT


Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Posted by: Sniffy66

Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Posted by: I Em I Raptor
This kid trying to argue with Deception is making my night better and better, lol!


You're welcome.
Better get the popcorn. Also are you Chronarch on Greg Bears disscussion board? I remember someone here said they were but I'm not sure who.


Naw, that's ajw34307.
Ah. Thanks for telling me.

  • 10.09.2011 8:19 PM PDT


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Posted by: redness7
Link? I predict you have no idea what is in the next game because you believe it will follow cannon. LOLLOLLLOLOOLLL


Well, no, I know it won't follow cannon, but I know it will follow canon.


your argument is still wrong




Posted by: DecepticonCobra
1. And yet your point doesn't mean anything and never has, it was proven long ago that Reach was a reconstruction of the Battle of Reach, ie not the real thing.


this is getting old


Posted by: DecepticonCobra

2. They actually came on a ship, likely one planted by the Precursors, were at first a powder, were spread on ancient humanities pets, those pets went ape-blam!-, the Flood then formed, humanity stopped the Flood, the Flood retreated and then came back to defeat the Forerunners.

Also, considering Chief hasn't stopped the Flood, he hasn't saved anyone yet.


2. You still have no argument

Also, Chief will stop the flood whenever he wants. CHIEF STILL WINS!!!





[Edited on 10.09.2011 8:33 PM PDT]

  • 10.09.2011 8:32 PM PDT
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Posted by: redness7



Also, Chief will stop the flood whenever he wants. CHIEF STILL WINS!!!





>Comments on Fallacies


>>Makes conclusion put off as fact with no proof other than recollection of events from game canon.

  • 10.09.2011 8:44 PM PDT

... looks like our superhero has a sidekick

  • 10.09.2011 8:51 PM PDT
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I want to see where this "debate" ends up.

  • 10.09.2011 8:57 PM PDT

By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.


Posted by: Sniffy66

Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Posted by: I Em I Raptor
This kid trying to argue with Deception is making my night better and better, lol!


You're welcome.
Better get the popcorn. Also are you Chronarch on Greg Bears disscussion board? I remember someone here said they were but I'm not sure who.


That'd be me.

  • 10.10.2011 1:44 PM PDT

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

Posted by: redness7
your argument is still wrong



I fail to see how I'm wrong when you present no evidence to back yourself up. Just saying.


this is getting old


Didn't attack you, I just proved your point wrong. The Legendary Edition has a paper in it which clearly states Reach, the game, is a reconstruction of the events, ie it doesn't really violate canon.



2. You still have no argument

Also, Chief will stop the flood whenever he wants. CHIEF STILL WINS!!!



Explain why i have no argument. I'll wait.

[Edited on 10.10.2011 3:08 PM PDT]

  • 10.10.2011 3:07 PM PDT

Posted by: redness7

Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Posted by: redness7
Link? I predict you have no idea what is in the next game because you believe it will follow cannon. LOLLOLLLOLOOLLL


Well, no, I know it won't follow cannon, but I know it will follow canon.


your argument is still wrong




Posted by: DecepticonCobra
1. And yet your point doesn't mean anything and never has, it was proven long ago that Reach was a reconstruction of the Battle of Reach, ie not the real thing.


this is getting old


Posted by: DecepticonCobra

2. They actually came on a ship, likely one planted by the Precursors, were at first a powder, were spread on ancient humanities pets, those pets went ape-blam!-, the Flood then formed, humanity stopped the Flood, the Flood retreated and then came back to defeat the Forerunners.

Also, considering Chief hasn't stopped the Flood, he hasn't saved anyone yet.


2. You still have no argument

Also, Chief will stop the flood whenever he wants. CHIEF STILL WINS!!!





Did you seriously just try to counter on argument about Halo on a Halo forum, by linking to... wikipedia?

Lolwut?

  • 10.10.2011 5:24 PM PDT

Posted by: redness7



Also, Chief will stop the flood whenever he wants. CHIEF STILL WINS!!!





After fighting the Flood for an entire trilogy of games he doesn't seem to making any progress...

  • 10.10.2011 5:25 PM PDT

If you're looking for a relaxed, but fun group of people to play, have fun, or work on achievements with (Annual, Endure, Deja Vu, etc.), then SIP is for you!

Master Chief.

  • 10.10.2011 5:30 PM PDT

Posted by: Ham Sanwitch
Master Chief.


Thank you for contributing to the topic...

  • 10.10.2011 5:34 PM PDT

I vote Chief

  • 10.10.2011 6:38 PM PDT
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Posted by: ThePredkiller2
Posted by: redness7



Also, Chief will stop the flood whenever he wants. CHIEF STILL WINS!!!





After fighting the Flood for an entire trilogy of games he doesn't seem to making any progress...


So destroying the Gravemind by destroying Installation 04(AGAIN) doesn't count as progress?

  • 10.10.2011 9:09 PM PDT

Find our Clan DemiXXGods on private groups. Want to join MS me hope to see you soon!

Chief is boss

  • 10.10.2011 9:13 PM PDT


Posted by: superiorarsenal

Posted by: ThePredkiller2
Posted by: redness7



Also, Chief will stop the flood whenever he wants. CHIEF STILL WINS!!!





After fighting the Flood for an entire trilogy of games he doesn't seem to making any progress...


So destroying the Gravemind by destroying Installation 04(AGAIN) doesn't count as progress?


No, he already screwed up when he allowed it to be remade in the first place, not to mention all of his actions in Halo 1 were in vain, as he ended up firing the darn thing anyway, and the Flood got to Earth, resulting in the glassing of an entire continent and Humanity is now on the brink of extinction...

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  • 10.10.2011 9:31 PM PDT
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"No, he already screwed up when he allowed it to be remade in the first place"

Do you even know wtf you are talking about? The Gravemind was around for 100,000 years prior on Installation 05, so he did not allow it to reform.

"not to mention all of his actions in Halo 1 were in vain, as he ended up firing the darn thing anyway,"

So what your saying is that taking out a Covenant Fleet, a Planet-ring full of Flood, and stopping the Covenant/Spark from activating the ring was all nothing?

"anyway, and the Flood got to Earth"

Because the Flood got aboard High Charity and hijacked the surrounding ships. One ship got past the Covenant quarantine and made it to Earth. So what does that have to do with Chief?

"resulting in the glassing of an entire continent "

Just Voi and the surrounding area. The "glassed half a continent" quote is Hyperbole.

"Humanity is now on the brink of extinction..."

The war is over and the Elites are not fighting them. They still have a few other planets aswell. They are far from extinction.

  • 10.10.2011 10:24 PM PDT

Let's be honest, Chief, directly fighting against the flood, simply doesn't make that much of a dent.

The only times he really makes 'progress' is by drastic explosions :/.

  • 10.10.2011 10:50 PM PDT
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Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
Let's be honest, Chief, directly fighting against the flood, simply doesn't make that much of a dent.

The only times he really makes 'progress' is by drastic explosions :/.


But isn't that the only way to make progress against the Flood?(Short of being Haloed)

  • 10.10.2011 10:54 PM PDT


Posted by: superiorarsenal

Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
Let's be honest, Chief, directly fighting against the flood, simply doesn't make that much of a dent.

The only times he really makes 'progress' is by drastic explosions :/.


But isn't that the only way to make progress against the Flood?(Short of being Haloed)


Chief cannot however, pull a drastic explosion out of his ass whenever he feels like it.

  • 10.10.2011 11:06 PM PDT

Posted by: superiorarsenal
"No, he already screwed up when he allowed it to be remade in the first place"

Do you even know wtf you are talking about? The Gravemind was around for 100,000 years prior on Installation 05, so he did not allow it to reform.


No dumbass I meant the Halo.

"not to mention all of his actions in Halo 1 were in vain, as he ended up firing the darn thing anyway,"

Posted by: superiorarsenal
So what your saying is that taking out a Covenant Fleet, a Planet-ring full of Flood, and stopping the Covenant/Spark from activating the ring was all nothing?


Master Chief never once destroyed an entire Covenant Fleet by himself. And I didn't say all nothing, I said in vain, because, in the end, everything he does in CE was to stop Halo from being activated. What does he do in Halo 3? He activates it, the very same ring, in fact.


Posted by: superiorarsenal
"anyway, and the Flood got to Earth"

Because the Flood got aboard High Charity and hijacked the surrounding ships. One ship got past the Covenant quarantine and made it to Earth. So what does that have to do with Chief?


He failed in his mission to get aboard High Charity and capture a Prophet, not only this, but he couldn't do so before it got to Earth full of Flood. So... fail on his part, double fail actually.

Posted by: superiorarsenal
"resulting in the glassing of an entire continent "

Just Voi and the surrounding area. The "glassed half a continent" quote is Hyperbole.


Oh, triple fail, my bad.

Posted by: superiorarsenal
"Humanity is now on the brink of extinction..."

The war is over and the Elites are not fighting them. They still have a few other planets aswell. They are far from extinction.



At the end of Halo 3 it is stated that 23 billion people lost their lives, and my source for that is Halo: Evolutions, "Palace Hotel", page 351. I guess we can constitute that an epic fail.

[Edited on 10.11.2011 9:08 AM PDT]

  • 10.11.2011 9:01 AM PDT


Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Posted by: redness7
your argument is still wrong



I fail to see how I'm wrong when you present no evidence to back yourself up. Just saying.


this is getting old


Didn't attack you, I just proved your point wrong. The Legendary Edition has a paper in it which clearly states Reach, the game, is a reconstruction of the events, ie it doesn't really violate canon.



2. You still have no argument

Also, Chief will stop the flood whenever he wants. CHIEF STILL WINS!!!



Explain why i have no argument. I'll wait.


It's not my job to explain why you have no argument. If you can't figure it out for yourself then you're past my help. The POINT of the OP is in your opinion who is better. I say Master Chief and it's not even a contest. I was introduced to the Halo universe through Halo CE. I hate to break it to you, but being introduced to Halo through the video game is how most everyone was introduced to Halo. There is nothing wrong with getting involved with the Halo books and fan fiction and all that stuff but it doesn't mean it will make its way into the games or be accurately represented and odds are it won't be. You seem to have a crippling lack of a sense of humor and your self mandated Halo canon trolling is annoying. I wish you luck in all your endeavors.

[Edited on 10.11.2011 6:00 PM PDT]

  • 10.11.2011 4:27 PM PDT

headhunter 3015


Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Had Master Chief been in any of Noble Team's shoes, he would've dropped faster than a red shirt character in Star Trek. Noble Six, had she had an opportunity to go to Alpha Halo, would've outperformed Chief any day of the week.


Impossible Noble six was a spartan 3 and would therefore is now where near as capable as a spartan 2, how ever Noble team as a whole could take Master Chief no problem considering gorge himself is a spartan 2.

  • 10.11.2011 4:31 PM PDT