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Subject: Bloom Does NOT Make This Game More Skillful
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Posted by: IamCornn

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Posted by: IamCornn
Again, What's the problem? Now everyone has a weapon they can use? The BR was the only thing seperating 'Good' and 'Bad' Players?



How do you not understand?
Because I've yet to hear an explanation.


Bloom has done nothing to make the DMR more balanced than the BR. The only thing Bloom has done is give bad players more of a chance to come out as the winner in 1v1 DMR fight by adding luck.

  • 09.02.2011 2:58 PM PDT

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Posted by: IamCornn

Posted by: Kira Onime

Posted by: IamCornn
Again, What's the problem? Now everyone has a weapon they can use? The BR was the only thing seperating 'Good' and 'Bad' Players?



How do you not understand?
Because I've yet to hear an explanation.


Have the explanations not been said enough times?


Garbage kid picks up DMR.
Finds himself vs a, let's say above average player.
Player Above average will vary between spam-pacing.
Kid spams the DMR like hell and ends up landing 5 lucky shots, 5th being headshot kill.

  • 09.02.2011 2:59 PM PDT


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Posted by: IamCornn

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Posted by: IamCornn
Again, What's the problem? Now everyone has a weapon they can use? The BR was the only thing seperating 'Good' and 'Bad' Players?



How do you not understand?
Because I've yet to hear an explanation.


Bloom has done nothing to make the DMR more balanced than the BR. The only thing Bloom has done is give bad players more of a chance to come out as the winner in 1v1 DMR fight by adding luck.

He will probably think that makes it balanced.

*sigh*

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Nope. SouthPole isn't a person. He's the avatar of the force of tryhards everywhere. He stalks the web looking for retards to set straight. He can not be stopped by mere bans or thread locks for he shall rise anew.

Bloom doesn't work in Halo. It works in other games, but not Halo. The only thing it "adds" to this game is randomness.

Now before you tell me "Pacing takes skill", let me correct you. For some reason, you people seem to think that everyone used to "spam" the BR in Halo 3. You say that we used to (and now that the title update is removing bloom) mash the trigger as fast as we could. You people seem to forget that you also had to aim. You had to aim just as fast as you shot. That created a skill gap.

You may be wondering "well, pacing takes just as much skill as having to aim fast", and to that I'll say yeah it seems that way, but look at the past Halo games.

Everybody can pace. It's not incredibly hard.
Everybody can pause between shots.
Stop fooling yourself.

Not everybody can aim fast.

With bloom, the good players are basically being punished for being good. The game is stopping us from shooting you when we already have your head in our sights.

It's like getting punished for running too fast in a race.

  • 09.02.2011 3:04 PM PDT
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Posted by: IamCornn


The lack of a response means you actually get it now right?

  • 09.02.2011 3:06 PM PDT

Flash Kicks beat Armor Lock.

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Posted by: Darkside Eric

Ah, ok.

Hmmm, it would be interesting then, if you had like a smaller tournament between season winners at the end of the year.

That would probably be the "Nationals" event, and probably take place in the beginning of each year.


Hopefully it goes well.

I want MLG to get bigger.

  • 09.02.2011 3:07 PM PDT

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Bloom doesn't work in Halo. It works in other games, but not Halo. The only thing it "adds" to this game is randomness.

Now before you tell me "Pacing takes skill", let me correct you. For some reason, you people seem to think that everyone used to "spam" the BR in Halo 3. You say that we used to (and now that the title update is removing bloom) mash the trigger as fast as we could. You people seem to forget that you also had to aim. You had to aim just as fast as you shot. That created a skill gap.

You may be wondering "well, pacing takes just as much skill as having to aim fast", and to that I'll say yeah it seems that way, but look at the past Halo games.

Everybody can pace. It's not incredibly hard.
Everybody can pause between shots.
Stop fooling yourself.

Not everybody can aim fast.

With bloom, the good players are basically being punished for being good. The game is stopping us from shooting you when we already have your head in our sights.

It's like getting punished for running too fast in a race.


tl:dr
-trollface-

  • 09.02.2011 3:07 PM PDT

Flash Kicks beat Armor Lock.

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Posted by: eRage Sanctity

Posted by: Darkside Eric

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It's a skillful coward's tactic.


Sorry guys, didn't mean to push you back to your goal line. Here, take your ball back and we'll also give you a free fifty yards to play with.

Dont even bother, the kid is retarded.


I just... there's just no logic in it, anywhere.

  • 09.02.2011 3:07 PM PDT


Posted by: Darkside Eric

Posted by: eRage Sanctity

Posted by: Darkside Eric

Ah, ok.

Hmmm, it would be interesting then, if you had like a smaller tournament between season winners at the end of the year.

That would probably be the "Nationals" event, and probably take place in the beginning of each year.


Hopefully it goes well.

I want MLG to get bigger.

Im sure itll get bigger. Its gotten bigger every year since it was established.

  • 09.02.2011 3:09 PM PDT
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If you have to use labels like 'Retarded' to describe anyone who disagrees with you, Then your arguement has lost any weight it might of had, and I personally will assume you are just trying to get a rise out of people.

Also to those who think that having a high KDR means you're beast; just the fact that boosters exist is a prime reason that any thumbless noob can achieve it throwing the 'my high KDR validates my opinion" logic out the window.


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Posted by: IamCornn

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Posted by: IamCornn
Again, What's the problem? Now everyone has a weapon they can use? The BR was the only thing seperating 'Good' and 'Bad' Players?



How do you not understand?
Because I've yet to hear an explanation.


Have the explanations not been said enough times?


Garbage kid picks up DMR.
Finds himself vs a, let's say above average player.
Player Above average will vary between spam-pacing.
Kid spams the DMR like hell and ends up landing 5 lucky shots, 5th being headshot kill.
Everyone uses that word. 'Luck', and 'Random as though they define the weapon.
The only thing 'Random' about it's rate of fire is whatever you put into it.

If the 'good' player were as his title suggested, He would know how to adjust his RoF for the distance of the target.

The question is; Are we using the term 'Good Player' in the sense that we are Talking about Halo; Reach, or Halo 3, where all the BR really can do is spam towards the head 'till he drops. Because they are infact different games.

The DMR's skill involves taking aim, knowing how fast to shoot for the range you are at

While I won't deny that someone who is 'bad' or new to Reach won't just spam the hell out of it, I've yet to see anyone succeed in actually getting a kill doing so at anything other than Just-Less-than-Shotgun point blank range, which is the range where firing faster makes the most sense. (and at that Range, the AR can ussually be a more viable option anyway.)

  • 09.02.2011 3:09 PM PDT

Flash Kicks beat Armor Lock.

TheLab.


Posted by: IamCornn
The only thing 'Random'


Is the entire Bloom mechanic.

Your shots can be placed randomly within the reticle, no matter what size it is. Your reticle could be the smallest it can be, it still has a chance to go straight down center or off to the top left.

Hence, Bloom itself is random.

  • 09.02.2011 3:12 PM PDT

Flash Kicks beat Armor Lock.

TheLab.


Posted by: eRage Sanctity

Posted by: Darkside Eric

Posted by: eRage Sanctity

Posted by: Darkside Eric

Ah, ok.

Hmmm, it would be interesting then, if you had like a smaller tournament between season winners at the end of the year.

That would probably be the "Nationals" event, and probably take place in the beginning of each year.


Hopefully it goes well.

I want MLG to get bigger.

Im sure itll get bigger. Its gotten bigger every year since it was established.


I wonder if MLG will ever be as big to us as gaming is to S. Korea.

  • 09.02.2011 3:13 PM PDT

Posted by: Tom T
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Posted by: IamCornn


Not sure if you're faking stupid or just being stupid right now.

Go read south pole's post just a bit higher.

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Posted by: RC Clone
Nope. SouthPole isn't a person. He's the avatar of the force of tryhards everywhere. He stalks the web looking for retards to set straight. He can not be stopped by mere bans or thread locks for he shall rise anew.


Posted by: Darkside Eric

I wonder if MLG will ever be as big to us as gaming is to S. Korea.


Gaming as a whole is getting bigger and bigger everyday.
It's inevitable.

  • 09.02.2011 3:14 PM PDT

"Weird is normal and normal is weird"~Me

"Some of us have goals in life,some of us just dont care,and some of us,just want a freaking panda!"~Me

"Though i walk through the valley of the shadow of death,i will fear no evil"~Psalms 23.4

does not explain why i get killed when i spam a pacer,according to this,my kd should be 10.00

  • 09.02.2011 3:16 PM PDT

Flash Kicks beat Armor Lock.

TheLab.


Posted by: SouthPoIe

Posted by: Darkside Eric

I wonder if MLG will ever be as big to us as gaming is to S. Korea.


Gaming as a whole is getting bigger and bigger everyday.
It's inevitable.


Problem is, our government still doesn't take us seriously.

  • 09.02.2011 3:18 PM PDT

Posted by: Tom T
Prolonged exposure to this forum is bad for your health.


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because I like pen­is.

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Posted by: Darkside Eric

Posted by: SouthPoIe

Posted by: Darkside Eric

I wonder if MLG will ever be as big to us as gaming is to S. Korea.


Gaming as a whole is getting bigger and bigger everyday.
It's inevitable.


Problem is, our government still doesn't take us seriously.


But video games make people kill other people!

  • 09.02.2011 3:18 PM PDT
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Posted by: RC Clone
Nope. SouthPole isn't a person. He's the avatar of the force of tryhards everywhere. He stalks the web looking for retards to set straight. He can not be stopped by mere bans or thread locks for he shall rise anew.


Posted by: Darkside Eric

Problem is, our government still doesn't take us seriously.


Give it time.
The government right now is made up of past generations.

  • 09.02.2011 3:22 PM PDT
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If you have to use labels like 'Retarded' to describe anyone who disagrees with you, Then your arguement has lost any weight it might of had, and I personally will assume you are just trying to get a rise out of people.

Also to those who think that having a high KDR means you're beast; just the fact that boosters exist is a prime reason that any thumbless noob can achieve it throwing the 'my high KDR validates my opinion" logic out the window.


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Posted by: IamCornn


Not sure if you're faking stupid or just being stupid right now.

Go read south pole's post just a bit higher.
Congradulations on just ignoring all of my points and just going out of your way to be insulting for no apparent reason, btw,

  • 09.02.2011 3:22 PM PDT

Flash Kicks beat Armor Lock.

TheLab.


Posted by: Kira Onime

Posted by: Darkside Eric

Posted by: SouthPoIe

Posted by: Darkside Eric

I wonder if MLG will ever be as big to us as gaming is to S. Korea.


Gaming as a whole is getting bigger and bigger everyday.
It's inevitable.


Problem is, our government still doesn't take us seriously.


But video games make people kill other people!


Definitely.

I always laugh when I talk about FOX News and how they said Mass Effect was a -blam!- game.

  • 09.02.2011 3:23 PM PDT

Flash Kicks beat Armor Lock.

TheLab.


Posted by: IamCornn
Congradulations on just ignoring all of my points


Pot and kettle.
Pot and kettle.

  • 09.02.2011 3:24 PM PDT

Eric, you can add me on XBL if you want.

  • 09.02.2011 3:24 PM PDT


Posted by: Kira Onime

Posted by: IamCornn


Not sure if you're faking stupid or just being stupid right now.

Maybe he took lessons from Beirut...

  • 09.02.2011 3:25 PM PDT

Flash Kicks beat Armor Lock.

TheLab.


Posted by: eRage Sanctity
Eric, you can add me on XBL if you want.


Send me a request, at work right now and probably won't be home for a while for any decent amount of time.

  • 09.02.2011 3:25 PM PDT


Posted by: Darkside Eric

Posted by: eRage Sanctity
Eric, you can add me on XBL if you want.


Send me a request, at work right now and probably won't be home for a while for any decent amount of time.

That would deal too much damage to my precious ego.

  • 09.02.2011 3:27 PM PDT