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Subject: Bloom Does NOT Make This Game More Skillful

Flash Kicks beat Armor Lock.

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Posted by: eRage Sanctity

Posted by: Darkside Eric

Posted by: eRage Sanctity
Eric, you can add me on XBL if you want.


Send me a request, at work right now and probably won't be home for a while for any decent amount of time.

That would deal too much damage to my precious ego.


Adapt.

  • 09.02.2011 3:28 PM PDT


Posted by: Darkside Eric

Posted by: Kira Onime

Posted by: Darkside Eric

Posted by: SouthPoIe

Posted by: Darkside Eric

I wonder if MLG will ever be as big to us as gaming is to S. Korea.


Gaming as a whole is getting bigger and bigger everyday.
It's inevitable.


Problem is, our government still doesn't take us seriously.


But video games make people kill other people!


Definitely.

I always laugh when I talk about FOX News and how they said Mass Effect was a -blam!- game.

They also scorned Medal of Honor because you could play as the Taliban in multiplayer, yet MW2 (and soon to be MW3) have the most unrealistic portrayals of how the "war" goes on between our troops and the Middle Eastern coalitions and rebels that it feels to me that its dishonoring.

  • 09.02.2011 3:28 PM PDT


Posted by: ThreeSixXero

Posted by: Kira Onime

Posted by: IamCornn


Not sure if you're faking stupid or just being stupid right now.

Maybe he took lessons from Beirut...

And Lethal Hate.

  • 09.02.2011 3:28 PM PDT

Very funny

IMO bloom is both random and pointless.
Are slow gunfights fun? of course they aren't.

  • 09.02.2011 3:30 PM PDT


Posted by: eRage Sanctity

Posted by: ThreeSixXero

Posted by: Kira Onime

Posted by: IamCornn


Not sure if you're faking stupid or just being stupid right now.

Maybe he took lessons from Beirut...

And Lethal Hate.

I have not had the...pleasure of conversing with him. Has he mastered the art of idiocy?

[Edited on 09.02.2011 3:30 PM PDT]

  • 09.02.2011 3:30 PM PDT

Flash Kicks beat Armor Lock.

TheLab.


Posted by: ThreeSixXero
They also scorned Medal of Honor because you could play as the Taliban in multiplayer, yet MW2 (and soon to be MW3) have the most unrealistic portrayals of how the "war" goes on between our troops and the Middle Eastern coalitions and rebels that it feels to me that its dishonoring.


What is truly funny is this:

Modern Warfare 2 (I think) Airport Mission where you kill civilians, gets almost no, or even zero, coverage.

God of War, with its high level of gore, nudity, and actual sex mini-games, gets no coverage.

Grand Theft Auto... super amount of coverage.

Dead or Alive Extreme Beach Volleyball? Lied about, said you could change breast sizes and such.

Mass Effect, lied about.

  • 09.02.2011 3:30 PM PDT

If I win DMR fights then there is deffinately something wrong with Bloom. I agree with OP.

  • 09.02.2011 3:31 PM PDT
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If you have to use labels like 'Retarded' to describe anyone who disagrees with you, Then your arguement has lost any weight it might of had, and I personally will assume you are just trying to get a rise out of people.

Also to those who think that having a high KDR means you're beast; just the fact that boosters exist is a prime reason that any thumbless noob can achieve it throwing the 'my high KDR validates my opinion" logic out the window.


Posted by: Darkside Eric

Posted by: IamCornn
Congradulations on just ignoring all of my points


Pot and kettle.
Pot and kettle.
I'm avoiding adressing other peoples points? How so?

If in regaurd to what South said; I've addressed his points in my posts, He is literally repeating the same arguement over again.

You are not punished for being a 'good' player (as if that makes any sense). He is referencing to BR, let me respond to that by saying, again, that; This is not Halo 3. BR, and The DMR are simillar, but different skill sets.

From what I am gathering, People dislike bloom because they can't adjust their RoF to accomodate the distance between themselves and the target. Therfore they call it 'Luck' when they die because they Spammed the trigger.

  • 09.02.2011 3:31 PM PDT


Posted by: ThreeSixXero

Posted by: eRage Sanctity

Posted by: ThreeSixXero

Posted by: Kira Onime

Posted by: IamCornn


Not sure if you're faking stupid or just being stupid right now.

Maybe he took lessons from Beirut...

And Lethal Hate.

I have not had the...pleasure of conversing with him. Has he mastered the art of idiocy?

Yes, then wants to add the people who argues with.

  • 09.02.2011 3:32 PM PDT


Posted by: Darkside Eric

Posted by: ThreeSixXero
They also scorned Medal of Honor because you could play as the Taliban in multiplayer, yet MW2 (and soon to be MW3) have the most unrealistic portrayals of how the "war" goes on between our troops and the Middle Eastern coalitions and rebels that it feels to me that its dishonoring.


What is truly funny is this:

Modern Warfare 2 (I think) Airport Mission where you kill civilians, gets almost no, or even zero, coverage.

God of War, with its high level of gore, nudity, and actual sex mini-games, gets no coverage.

Grand Theft Auto... super amount of coverage.

Dead or Alive Extreme Beach Volleyball? Lied about, said you could change breast sizes and such.

Mass Effect, lied about.

Maybe (as in, definitely) they're being paid off so someone doesn't lose their spots of fame.

  • 09.02.2011 3:32 PM PDT
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Nope. SouthPole isn't a person. He's the avatar of the force of tryhards everywhere. He stalks the web looking for retards to set straight. He can not be stopped by mere bans or thread locks for he shall rise anew.


Posted by: IamCornn

From what I am gathering, People dislike bloom because they can't adjust their RoF to accomodate the distance between themselves and the target. Therfore they call it 'Luck' when they die because they Spammed the trigger.


Oh my god.
...
...
-blam!-, you're retarded.
You really are.

  • 09.02.2011 3:33 PM PDT


Posted by: IamCornn

Posted by: Darkside Eric

Posted by: IamCornn
Congradulations on just ignoring all of my points


Pot and kettle.
Pot and kettle.
I'm avoiding adressing other peoples points? How so?

If in regaurd to what South said; I've addressed his points in my posts, He is literally repeating the same arguement over again.

You are not punished for being a 'good' player (as if that makes any sense). He is referencing to BR, let me respond to that by saying, again, that; This is not Halo 3. BR, and The DMR are simillar, but different skill sets.

From what I am gathering, People dislike bloom because they can't adjust their RoF to accomodate the distance between themselves and the target. Therfore they call it 'Luck' when they die because they Spammed the trigger.

Except the spammer wins majority of the time.

  • 09.02.2011 3:33 PM PDT
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If you have to use labels like 'Retarded' to describe anyone who disagrees with you, Then your arguement has lost any weight it might of had, and I personally will assume you are just trying to get a rise out of people.

Also to those who think that having a high KDR means you're beast; just the fact that boosters exist is a prime reason that any thumbless noob can achieve it throwing the 'my high KDR validates my opinion" logic out the window.


Posted by: SouthPoIe

Posted by: IamCornn

From what I am gathering, People dislike bloom because they can't adjust their RoF to accomodate the distance between themselves and the target. Therfore they call it 'Luck' when they die because they Spammed the trigger.


Oh my god.
...
...
-blam!-, you're retarded.
You really are.
Again, ignoring my points and going straight for an insult. Explain what's retarded about it.

  • 09.02.2011 3:35 PM PDT


Posted by: eRage Sanctity

Posted by: ThreeSixXero
I have not had the...pleasure of conversing with him. Has he mastered the art of idiocy?

Yes, then wants to add the people who argues with.

I feel that that is a good trait to have. Perhaps by being around us enough, he'll know what it feels like to be intelligent and forget his ways of ignorance and unbelief.

[Edited on 09.02.2011 3:36 PM PDT]

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Posted by: RC Clone
Nope. SouthPole isn't a person. He's the avatar of the force of tryhards everywhere. He stalks the web looking for retards to set straight. He can not be stopped by mere bans or thread locks for he shall rise anew.


Posted by: IamCornn

Posted by: SouthPoIe

Posted by: IamCornn

From what I am gathering, People dislike bloom because they can't adjust their RoF to accomodate the distance between themselves and the target. Therfore they call it 'Luck' when they die because they Spammed the trigger.


Oh my god.
...
...
-blam!-, you're retarded.
You really are.
Again, ignoring my points and going straight for an insult. Explain what's retarded about it.


You do realize that everyone can "adjust their RoF to accomodate the distance between themselves and the target", right?

I mentioned that in my post.

  • 09.02.2011 3:36 PM PDT

Flash Kicks beat Armor Lock.

TheLab.


Posted by: IamCornn
I'm avoiding adressing other peoples points? How so?


Posted by: IamCornn
The only thing 'Random'


Is the entire Bloom mechanic.

Your shots can be placed randomly within the reticle, no matter what size it is. Your reticle could be the smallest it can be, it still has a chance to go straight down center or off to the top left.

Hence, Bloom itself is random.

  • 09.02.2011 3:37 PM PDT


Posted by: ThreeSixXero

Posted by: eRage Sanctity

Posted by: ThreeSixXero
I have not had the...pleasure of conversing with him. Has he mastered the art of idiocy?

Yes, then wants to add the people who argues with.

I feel that that is a good trait to have. Perhaps by being around us enough, he'll know what it feels like to be intelligent and forget his ways of ignorance and unbelief.

Hes apparently already been a "tryhard" before, so no he wont.

  • 09.02.2011 3:42 PM PDT
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If you have to use labels like 'Retarded' to describe anyone who disagrees with you, Then your arguement has lost any weight it might of had, and I personally will assume you are just trying to get a rise out of people.

Also to those who think that having a high KDR means you're beast; just the fact that boosters exist is a prime reason that any thumbless noob can achieve it throwing the 'my high KDR validates my opinion" logic out the window.


Posted by: Darkside Eric

Posted by: IamCornn
I'm avoiding adressing other peoples points? How so?


Posted by: IamCornn
The only thing 'Random'


Is the entire Bloom mechanic.

Your shots can be placed randomly within the reticle, no matter what size it is. Your reticle could be the smallest it can be, it still has a chance to go straight down center or off to the top left.

Hence, Bloom itself is random.
I missed that one. I have not once ever had a moment where the bullet would go anywhere outside the reticle that wasn't beyond it's furthest effective range. So I don't know what you (or anyone else that has this problem) are doing.



Posted by: SouthPoIe
You do realize that everyone can "adjust their RoF to accomodate the distance between themselves and the target", right?

I mentioned that in my post.
Then what is the problem? Unless you're spamming out of range, or pacing up close (these being in the 1v1 scenario) then there's nothing 'Random' about it.

  • 09.02.2011 3:48 PM PDT


Posted by: eRage Sanctity

Posted by: ThreeSixXero

Posted by: eRage Sanctity

Posted by: ThreeSixXero
I have not had the...pleasure of conversing with him. Has he mastered the art of idiocy?

Yes, then wants to add the people who argues with.

I feel that that is a good trait to have. Perhaps by being around us enough, he'll know what it feels like to be intelligent and forget his ways of ignorance and unbelief.

Hes apparently already been a "tryhard" before, so no he wont.

Well, I was a casual competitive during Halo 3 (hence why I played customs-only after hitting 37), and I became purely competitive again.

Why can't he just do the same?

[Edited on 09.02.2011 3:53 PM PDT]

  • 09.02.2011 3:51 PM PDT

Flash Kicks beat Armor Lock.

TheLab.


Posted by: IamCornn
I missed that one. I have not once ever had a moment where the bullet would go anywhere outside the reticle that wasn't beyond it's furthest effective range. So I don't know what you (or anyone else that has this problem) are doing.


That happens quite a lot. That's why "spamming" is so effective at close range. You are pouring out shots because not all of them are hitting, even though the opposing player is taking up about half of the reticle.

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Posted by: RC Clone
Nope. SouthPole isn't a person. He's the avatar of the force of tryhards everywhere. He stalks the web looking for retards to set straight. He can not be stopped by mere bans or thread locks for he shall rise anew.


Posted by: IamCornn
Then what is the problem? Unless you're spamming out of range, or pacing up close (these being in the 1v1 scenario) then there's nothing 'Random' about it.



It's statements like this that show how ignorant the Reach defenders are.

I can still win by spamming in Mid Range when I should have been pacing. There's a chance (RANDOMNESS) that all 5 of my DMR shots could hit the other player.

The other player was pacing, and he died because of it.

  • 09.02.2011 3:51 PM PDT

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Posted by: ThreeSixXero

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Posted by: IamCornn


Not sure if you're faking stupid or just being stupid right now.

Maybe he took lessons from Beirut...


lmao.

  • 09.02.2011 3:53 PM PDT
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Posted by: SouthPoIe

Posted by: IamCornn
Then what is the problem? Unless you're spamming out of range, or pacing up close (these being in the 1v1 scenario) then there's nothing 'Random' about it.



It's statements like this that show how ignorant the Reach defenders are.

I can still win by spamming in Mid Range when I should have been pacing. There's a chance (RANDOMNESS) that all 5 of my DMR shots could hit the other player.

The other player was pacing, and he died because of it.
You're wasting your time, bro. Reachtards are too busy saying it is fine to understand that bloom is a terrible addition.

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Nope. SouthPole isn't a person. He's the avatar of the force of tryhards everywhere. He stalks the web looking for retards to set straight. He can not be stopped by mere bans or thread locks for he shall rise anew.



Posted by: ThreeSixXero
Maybe he took lessons from Beirut...


I seriously think he has a learning disability.

I know I call people retarded a lot, but for him I'm being completely serious.

  • 09.02.2011 3:56 PM PDT

as far as that MLG game between Instinct and BTH goes, that was LAN. Everyone who has ever played ANY Halo on LAN can attest that it feels much different. Same for reach. Over XBL you sometimes get horrible shot registry, delay, etc. On LAN, shots register every single time and you get no latency. (Granted your playing on sufficient equipment)
My point being, I'm sure it is MUCH more effective for people to spam on LAN as opposed to XBL.

[Edited on 09.02.2011 3:59 PM PDT]

  • 09.02.2011 3:58 PM PDT