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Subject: What can be considered "political discussion?"
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I thoroughly read the Forum Rules before I joined this site. Interestingly enough, I got warned just days after signup for posting about Aerospace in the Universe forum. With that said, I've taken more caution to what I think is more acceptable as a post.

As I just lurked The Flood forum, I saw a locked/banned thread about how homo-blam!- marriage should be illegal, as prepubescent marriage isn't. Whether the latter is true or not, I don't know, but it does bring up an interesting question: Why was this user banned? (Actually, it would be nice if the correcting moderator posted in this thread).

So as this is the Community forum -- where you can discuss different aspects of forums -- I question why he was banned. I'm assuming that it had some sort of relation to the "no political threads" rule, however, I must secondly question how that is political. Although it is controversial, it's not inappropriate, and it really doesn't bring up anything political. Sure, same-sex marriage is a major political debate at this time, but there are plenty of other threads (like the Libyan Crisis thread) that are far more political than that of the said thread.

Can I please have a more thorough definition of what actually defines a political thread?

  • 09.02.2011 2:36 PM PDT

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Actually, I don't think the ninjas are supposed to discuss the punishments issued to other members or the reasoning behind it, least of all publically. I could be wrong, but don't expect any answer other than "we cannot discuss the punishments of other users."

As far as what they actually define a political thread as, that's probably going to vary slightly from nija to ninja.

[Edited on 09.02.2011 2:40 PM PDT]

  • 09.02.2011 2:39 PM PDT
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Well it is something that can lead to politics, and is controversial, so anything along those lines will get locked

  • 09.02.2011 2:42 PM PDT

The mods are not going to spellit out. That leads to loopholes. Just use common sense in that regard I would advise. If it could offend someone then it probably will so do not post it.

  • 09.02.2011 2:45 PM PDT

I remember when I used this space to put cool looking links to my chapters back in the day. I don't even know why I'm using it now. Why are you even reading this? You must be interested in me. Still reading?

Anything political, simple. Anything dealing with government, civil affairs, or anything would set up a political debate splitting into two separate arguments and, the reason it being against the forum rules, turning into unnecessary tossing of blatant, offensive words back and forth. It's the same way with other topics, such as religion, yet there is nothing you can do but abide by those rules.

  • 09.02.2011 2:47 PM PDT
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Posted by: burritosenior
The mods are not going to spellit out. That leads to loopholes. Just use common sense in that regard I would advise. If it could offend someone then it probably will so do not post it.


Anything can offend anything -- you should know that in an age like this. Our political correctness has led us to the point where we've been scared for our jobs, family, and lives to make sure we say the "nice" things about minority groups, and groups that use political correctness to their advantage.

Controversy will happen on this site. If the discussion is somewhat political -- but not obviously political -- then the moderators should just keep an eye on the topic; if it's civilized, then let it continue. However, if it turns into some actually hateful stuff, then it's time to close down the discussion.

  • 09.02.2011 2:48 PM PDT

Key

Anything can be considered political. This technicality aside, usually it has to do with governmental politics. I've even seen threads that were politically leaning be let go because (amazingly) there was no flaming going on and all discussion contained therein was civilized.

Topics like a discussion on homo-blam!-ity can VERY QUICKLY (in the span of one or two responses) go from a discussion of different philosophies people might have on the topic of the institution of marriage to a hate-filled flame war riddle with governmentally political and religious propaganda. People should know this by now. They only make threads like that to test the rules and to troll the community.

I doubt that user said one word in that discussion after posting their OP. They probably just sat back and watched the hate brew in a thread they knew would illicit this kind of response as soon as they posted it.

As to the banning and actual locking of a political thread, that is completely subject to the ninja that happens upon the thread (or the fact that a ninja may NOT happen upon the thread) and how that ninja interprets the rules in relation to this specific situation. A week or two ago there was a bit of a fuss about a thread that VII Toast made about the level of protection of our freedoms that our troops actually provide (attempting to word that in a way that won't offend anyone directly from my statements).

There was a big "to-do" about it that I let myself get caught up in because someone made a thread in the Community forums about it stating they should "leave BNet for this" and how it was absolutely ridiculous that Yoozel (a Master Forum Ninja, mind you) had posted in there and not locked it. That thread has since been locked but, as you can see, it was allowed to continue for quite a long time because, apparently, the ninja(s) that saw that thread happened to think it was protected by the rules of the forums and allowed to continue the discussion happening in there.

The point is that a political thread is determined more by the ideals and methodology of the ninja that views it rather than a textbook definition of what is political and all subsequent bans and thread locks are all directly related to these conditions.

  • 09.02.2011 2:50 PM PDT

Do Work Son!

I feel like your lying about reading the forum rules.

  • 09.02.2011 5:53 PM PDT

Posted by: NAKED N00B
They're not looking to avoid politics. They're looking to avoid controversy. They use the broadest definition of 'politics' in order to have free reign against threads they see as detrimental to the forums.
This is probably the only correct response in this thread so far.

And to point out the stupidity of people saying something along the lines of 'stuff that is political': I sure hope you don't have a pressing desire to discuss parking meters as that's out now. As is discussions on Naturism, or discussions on high density housing. I could go on, as NSW and Australia really has a wonderful collection of minor political parties and candidates, but I hope you get the idea.

  • 09.02.2011 6:04 PM PDT

@trueunderdog

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I looked up the thread you were talking about. Your assumption is wrong.

Posted by: West Highland WT
I'm assuming that it had some sort of relation to the "no political threads" rule,


  • 09.02.2011 6:32 PM PDT

Stop banning me please.

The fact we can't discuss politics or religion really blows

  • 09.02.2011 6:45 PM PDT

Key


Posted by: XxExpungexX
The fact we can't discuss politics or religion really blows
Why would you need to on BNet?

  • 09.02.2011 6:51 PM PDT

Posted by: CrazzySnipe55
Posted by: XxExpungexX
The fact we can't discuss politics or religion really blows
Why would you need to on BNet?
Why do you need to discuss anything on bungie.net?

  • 09.02.2011 6:53 PM PDT

Stop banning me please.

That is what forums are for. To share thoughts and ideas

  • 09.02.2011 6:57 PM PDT

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Case and point: don't worry about it. Girls start getting boobies pretty soon, and then you'll have plenty of other things to think about. Being an Inheritor is not a life goal.
-TGP-

Posted by: Nerd Boi
Why do you need to discuss anything on bungie.net?

Because talking about a change to the bungie.net site on the Epic forums would be awkward.

  • 09.02.2011 6:57 PM PDT

Key


Posted by: Nerd Boi
Posted by: CrazzySnipe55
Posted by: XxExpungexX
The fact we can't discuss politics or religion really blows
Why would you need to on BNet?
Why do you need to discuss anything on bungie.net?
But why specifically would you need to discuss religious and political matters? Even that point is irrelevant because we never will and never have been allowed to.

  • 09.02.2011 8:03 PM PDT

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  • 09.02.2011 8:07 PM PDT

Posted by: CrazzySnipe55
Posted by: Nerd Boi
Posted by: CrazzySnipe55
Posted by: XxExpungexX
The fact we can't discuss politics or religion really blows
Why would you need to on BNet?
Why do you need to discuss anything on bungie.net?
But why specifically would you need to discuss religious and political matters? Even that point is irrelevant because we never will and never have been allowed to.
I'm not saying I need to discuss politics or religion. I'm pointing out that your statement isn't a particulary bright one, because really, the number of things you could claim to 'need' to discuss on this site is rather small.

  • 09.02.2011 8:34 PM PDT

Brainwashing, idiotic media: "hur dur, vido gaems cas vilenc n iz nt gud. dey ned 2 b baned."

Logic: Really? Then please explain how there's violence in third world countries. I guess they're all poor due to the large amount of video games they buy.


Posted by: Nerd Boi
Posted by: CrazzySnipe55
Posted by: Nerd Boi
Posted by: CrazzySnipe55
Posted by: XxExpungexX
The fact we can't discuss politics or religion really blows
Why would you need to on BNet?
Why do you need to discuss anything on bungie.net?
But why specifically would you need to discuss religious and political matters? Even that point is irrelevant because we never will and never have been allowed to.
I'm not saying I need to discuss politics or religion. I'm pointing out that your statement isn't a particulary bright one, because really, the number of things you could claim to 'need' to discuss on this site is rather small.



^Prime example. If something causes this much of an argument, it usually is banned, hence the rule "play nice"

  • 09.02.2011 8:46 PM PDT

Key


Posted by: Nerd Boi
Posted by: CrazzySnipe55
Posted by: Nerd Boi
Posted by: CrazzySnipe55
Posted by: XxExpungexX
The fact we can't discuss politics or religion really blows
Why would you need to on BNet?
Why do you need to discuss anything on bungie.net?
But why specifically would you need to discuss religious and political matters? Even that point is irrelevant because we never will and never have been allowed to.
I'm not saying I need to discuss politics or religion. I'm pointing out that your statement isn't a particulary bright one, because really, the number of things you could claim to 'need' to discuss on this site is rather small.
Sorry, I misspoke. Those are discussion that shouldn't happen on here. And if you want to discuss them, you're better off going somewhere else (the royal "you", not you personally). There's no place for that here because it will never be constructive because someone will always mess it up with flaming or insulting or something like that.

  • 09.02.2011 8:56 PM PDT
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Posted by: True Underdog
I looked up the thread you were talking about. Your assumption is wrong.

Posted by: West Highland WT
I'm assuming that it had some sort of relation to the "no political threads" rule,




Then what was it locked for?

  • 09.02.2011 9:01 PM PDT
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Anything political.

  • 09.03.2011 12:39 AM PDT