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Subject: Whatever happened to Jun?

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Theres no 100 proof that he's dead, no 1 knew what happned to him, he's most likly dead. But since there is no source or proof that he died, he is Mia.

  • 09.03.2011 4:52 PM PDT

@accordingto343

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And yet the fact remains he had no way to get off planet.

  • 09.03.2011 4:55 PM PDT

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra
And yet the fact remains he had no way to get off planet.

we do not know that, their COULD HAVE BEEN.

Look i THINK he is dead, however it's not impossible that he lived...

  • 09.03.2011 4:57 PM PDT

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

If there was a way to get off planet, I'm sure the Spartan-IIs would've gotten off planet. Halsey only stuck around to detonate CASTLE if the Covenant found her. The only way they got off planet was when Chief arrived with the Ascendent Justice. Read First Strike.

  • 09.03.2011 5:00 PM PDT


Posted by: DecepticonCobra
You'd have to be a complete and utter idiot to think he survived. There was no way off planet and he does not appear with Halsey in any piece of Halo lore. But you know, if you want to believe Jun somehow managed to survive the invading Covenant forces and the subsequent glassing, fine. It's stupid to do so though.


Then wouldn't you think it's crazy for Halsey to make it off the planet... Oh wait she did...

  • 09.03.2011 5:28 PM PDT

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra
And yet the fact remains he had no way to get off planet.

we do not know that, their COULD HAVE BEEN.

Look i THINK he is dead, however it's not impossible that he lived...

^Go and read First Strike, then we will talk.

  • 09.03.2011 5:44 PM PDT

lxl Syphon lxl

Really? Who's left? They all died or missing so he's for now the last known Spartan. And Halsey is alive? did she go into exile and open a candy store instead of develping more spartans this whole time?

  • 09.03.2011 5:45 PM PDT

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Posted by: lxl Syphon lxl22
Really? Who's left? They all died or missing so he's for now the last known Spartan. And Halsey is alive? did she go into exile and open a candy store instead of develping more spartans this whole time?

^Just go and read First Strike. Of course he is considered MIA. All of the Spartans are. Carter, Kat, Jorge, Emile Six, and Jun. Even though we witnessed their deaths.

"Spartans never die, they're just missing in action."

[Edited on 09.03.2011 6:04 PM PDT]

  • 09.03.2011 6:04 PM PDT


Posted by: blade246
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who knows how he died

^First Strike never gave any specific details on how he died.


So like is First Strike like the only book you ever read. Cause you've mentioned it in every single post pretty much.
Go be normal and read Harry Potter or something

  • 09.04.2011 12:42 AM PDT


Posted by: DecepticonCobra
If there was a way to get off planet, I'm sure the Spartan-IIs would've gotten off planet. Halsey only stuck around to detonate CASTLE if the Covenant found her. The only way they got off planet was when Chief arrived with the Ascendent Justice. Read First Strike.
A pelican can get anyone off planet. The Spartans had a pelican, where is it? Highlands. How can they get off with a broken Pelican? Jun had a Pelican, after he left Halsey, he could have easily used the Pelican and escaped.

  • 09.04.2011 12:55 AM PDT


Posted by: mojeda101

Posted by: DecepticonCobra
If there was a way to get off planet, I'm sure the Spartan-IIs would've gotten off planet. Halsey only stuck around to detonate CASTLE if the Covenant found her. The only way they got off planet was when Chief arrived with the Ascendent Justice. Read First Strike.
A pelican can get anyone off planet. The Spartans had a pelican, where is it? Highlands. How can they get off with a broken Pelican? Jun had a Pelican, after he left Halsey, he could have easily used the Pelican and escaped.


Exactly.

  • 09.04.2011 1:07 AM PDT

@accordingto343

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So despite Carter telling Jun not to allow anything to fall into enemy hands, Jun is just going to take the Pelican and leave Halsey defenseless?

And may I ask what ship Jun would retreat to? The Covenant dominated the sky and space above Reach.

  • 09.04.2011 1:28 AM PDT

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Posted by: xAwesome Saucex
Jun was assigned to escort Halsey. By the end of 2553, Halo canon states that Halsey is alive. It is a high possiblity that Jun stayed with Halsey all those years after the Fall of Reach.


It's been awhile since I've read it, but I'm pretty sure First Strike shows how Dr. Halsey gets off Reach.

No where else does in mention Jun's continued existence. It's a pretty safe bet that he died in the glassing of Reach.


Sorry but your logic doesn't sit right me here at all. Just because Jun isn't mentioned does not mean he must have died. By your logic by the fact that someone wasn't specifically mentioned in the books, games, etc then they must be dead.

  • 09.04.2011 5:04 AM PDT

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Posted by: ferrrari

Posted by: DecepticonCobra
And yet the fact remains he had no way to get off planet.

we do not know that, their COULD HAVE BEEN.

Look i THINK he is dead, however it's not impossible that he lived...


The Autumn was the last evac ship on the continent, there's absolutely no way he could have gotten of the planet. Seeing as he's not there when Red Team rescue Halsey and the Master Chief picks them up in the Ascendant Justice, logic dictates that he died.

  • 09.04.2011 5:52 AM PDT


Posted by: lxl Syphon lxl22
Really? Who's left? They all died or missing so he's for now the last known Spartan. And Halsey is alive? did she go into exile and open a candy store instead of develping more spartans this whole time?


In the Reach data pads it talks about a decision against developing more Spartans as "the ODST seems an adequate replacement"

  • 09.04.2011 8:37 AM PDT

Heres what I THINK could have happened
Jun escorted Halsley to the shipthen blew up the lab, dieing in the process

[Edited on 09.04.2011 8:40 AM PDT]

  • 09.04.2011 8:40 AM PDT

its better diying with a smile than getting teabag

As soon as he got in the CASTLE base he disappeared out of nowhere because a book made 7 years before the game says he isn't supposed to be there when the red team comes. :)

  • 09.04.2011 9:41 AM PDT

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Posted by: ajw34307

Posted by: ferrrari

Posted by: DecepticonCobra
And yet the fact remains he had no way to get off planet.

we do not know that, their COULD HAVE BEEN.

Look i THINK he is dead, however it's not impossible that he lived...


The Autumn was the last evac ship on the continent, there's absolutely no way he could have gotten of the planet. Seeing as he's not there when Red Team rescue Halsey and the Master Chief picks them up in the Ascendant Justice, logic dictates that he died.

Can't pelicans get into orbit?

  • 09.04.2011 10:02 AM PDT

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Posted by: ferrrari

Posted by: ajw34307

Posted by: ferrrari

Posted by: DecepticonCobra
And yet the fact remains he had no way to get off planet.

we do not know that, their COULD HAVE BEEN.

Look i THINK he is dead, however it's not impossible that he lived...


The Autumn was the last evac ship on the continent, there's absolutely no way he could have gotten of the planet. Seeing as he's not there when Red Team rescue Halsey and the Master Chief picks them up in the Ascendant Justice, logic dictates that he died.

Can't pelicans get into orbit?


Whilst an entire Covenant fleet occupies the airspace of the planet? Good luck with that...

  • 09.04.2011 10:05 AM PDT
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Why anybody are still arguing about Jun's fate?

We know he is dead... There was no way to get off the Reach planet before Master Chief arrived with AJ ship to pick up remaining Spartan-IIs and Dr. Halsey.

He is dead, dead, and DEAD. You'll have to accept it otherwise.

Ferrari

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[Edited on 09.04.2011 10:21 AM PDT]

  • 09.04.2011 10:20 AM PDT


Posted by: DecepticonCobra
So despite Carter telling Jun not to allow anything to fall into enemy hands, Jun is just going to take the Pelican and leave Halsey defenseless?

And may I ask what ship Jun would retreat to? The Covenant dominated the sky and space above Reach.
Castle Base would most likely have defenses, don't forget, Spartan II survivors went there.

  • 09.04.2011 10:25 AM PDT


Posted by: raganok99
Why anybody are still arguing about Jun's fate?

We know he is dead... There was no way to get off the Reach planet before Master Chief arrived with AJ ship to pick up remaining Spartan-IIs and Dr. Halsey.

He is dead, dead, and DEAD. You'll have to accept it otherwise.

Ferrari

READ THE FIRST STRIKE!!
Right...Who said he had to get off planet? There was a LONG gap between August 30th and September 7th. So what if he wasn't mentioned in First Strike? The game wasn't made yet! Games override the books, you lose.

[Edited on 09.04.2011 10:28 AM PDT]

  • 09.04.2011 10:28 AM PDT

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xAwesome Saucex, I am just as curious as you, however I don't know who's theory to believe...

  • 09.04.2011 10:28 AM PDT

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Posted by: mojeda101

Posted by: DecepticonCobra
So despite Carter telling Jun not to allow anything to fall into enemy hands, Jun is just going to take the Pelican and leave Halsey defenseless?

And may I ask what ship Jun would retreat to? The Covenant dominated the sky and space above Reach.
Castle Base would most likely have defenses, don't forget, Spartan II survivors went there.


Er... Halsey destroyed CASTLE Base as per Operation: WHITE GLOVE. The defences crumbled when the Covenant infiltrated it and started shooting at anything that moved.

  • 09.04.2011 10:39 AM PDT


Posted by: ajw34307

Posted by: mojeda101

Posted by: DecepticonCobra
So despite Carter telling Jun not to allow anything to fall into enemy hands, Jun is just going to take the Pelican and leave Halsey defenseless?

And may I ask what ship Jun would retreat to? The Covenant dominated the sky and space above Reach.
Castle Base would most likely have defenses, don't forget, Spartan II survivors went there.


Er... Halsey destroyed CASTLE Base as per Operation: WHITE GLOVE. The defences crumbled when the Covenant infiltrated it and started shooting at anything that moved.
That was after they went inside...

  • 09.04.2011 10:41 AM PDT