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Subject: Could 10 marines take on an elite ultra???

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Dude an ODST could take down a Chieftan so why can't a couple marines take down a "wimpy" little Ultra?

[Edited on 09.04.2011 3:54 PM PDT]

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  • 09.04.2011 6:13 PM PDT


Posted by: albertoingalls
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I lol'd for some reason.

  • 09.04.2011 6:15 PM PDT
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well, considering that emile the "hyper bad-ass" SNIPES, with a SHOTGUN, and he is a spartan, the pants-on head retarded marines would never beat a beast like an ultra. (and by beast, i mean, as in an actual killing monster). :3

  • 09.04.2011 6:18 PM PDT

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Posted by: mojeda101
Depends what weapons are being used. Elite shield strength in the game is simply a game mechanic. Spartan shields are actually stronger than that of Elites but they do not want to make the game easy, so they added that. Shield strength in Cutscenes seem to be canon though, notice how Noble 6 completely kills an Elite with just 15 rounds in Lone Wolf.

So 10 marines would kill an Elite ultra easily with all the combined fire.
The ODST's would win with sheer combined firepower.
Depends on the situation. John managed to kill 3 ODST with his bare hands.

No. FPF-1's didn't do anything to the Corvette. Although Small MAC cannons stationed on the planet such as in Pillar of Autumn could take down a ship. It varies.

I believe the Elite wiki article said that even an Elite major can hold its own against a group of Marines

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Posted by: albertoingalls
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i think this is funny because your picture is an ultra, staring at the user like death, on a thread about the cool dinosaurs killing brain-dead marines.

  • 09.04.2011 6:27 PM PDT

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Everything depends on the location, for example in either 1 or 2 if the Elite is armed with a sword and the fight takes place inside a building it would massacre the marines/ODSTs. If they were out in a field the Humans would be able to gun it down, after loosing a couple of their own.

The only way for the normal humans to win is when they can actually use their numerical advantage and combined fire power, other wise you get something resembling a scene from Aliens or Predator.

Edit: Everything above goes for the Spartan, though with stronger shields they might not even have to dodge.


Also, Ultras and Zealots are relitivly rare on the battlefield, most marines would encounter few if any in their campaigns. The bulk of the Covennant is Grunts, Jackals and lower ranking Elites.


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  • 09.04.2011 6:32 PM PDT

1. Ultra would win

2. ODSTs would win

3. Spartans would win

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reply to "How do you know an ultra has more experience." ?

The way that you know an ultra has more experience is the same way you know that a colonel has more experience than a private or corporal ( under normal circumstances )

  • 09.04.2011 7:17 PM PDT

Could 20 Grunts take a Hunter?

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It truly depends, it seems that so many people on this thread are giving all marines a set skill level. I am sure that marines like Sgt.Johnson and ODST like Eddie Buck would have more then enough skill to be able to take out an elite Ultra on their own.

  • 09.04.2011 9:17 PM PDT

number 3 yes. in halo ce on the first level when you are able to get your pistol turn around and go back to the command center. shoot keyes i the head and cortana will say your awol. you can jump down in the hole in front of the big computer screen. marines with infinite health will com and kill you.

  • 09.05.2011 4:48 AM PDT

an i also did this in co-op and we died. answer is marines.
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  • 09.05.2011 4:52 AM PDT
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Posted by: SHAOLINMONKEY 93
It truly depends, it seems that so many people on this thread are giving all marines a set skill level. I am sure that marines like Sgt.Johnson and ODST like Eddie Buck would have more then enough skill to be able to take out an elite Ultra on their own.
I'm rather inclined to agree. There are too few controlled variables to make for any decisive outcome, and the warriors' varying skill levels are extreme wildcards here. Logically, most people would apply average skill levels across the board, but even that's a pain to determine.

Since, like people have said, there's no magical stats like in an RPG game that determine overall performance in the actual canon, the closest thing that I can think of to determine average combat capability would be their performance in the games against AI enemies. Of course, that directly disobeys the first statement, but bear with me here. Heroic is said to be the canon difficulty, with regards to the combat effectiveness of your allies, enemies, and the overall difficulty of what you face of course, not with regards to gameplay mechanics. If, after storming the beach and entering the compound on LNoS, you go back to the beach, you can see a small squad of army troopers duking it out against wave after wave of Covenant reinforcements. Out of curiosity, I watched them go at it for a while, and it seems that on heroic, an army trooper is either equal to, or falls slight short of an elite Minor. That being said, I highly doubt that this is an accurate method of determining average combat skill.

  • 09.05.2011 9:46 AM PDT

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Buck would get his ass handed to him buy an Ultra.

Ultra takes a good 15-20 rounds of AR fire to kill, while Buck takes just one plasma shot, not to mention the Ultra is bigger, stronger and faster.

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reply to "How do you know an ultra has more experience." ?

The way that you know an ultra has more experience is the same way you know that a colonel has more experience than a private or corporal ( under normal circumstances )


You cant say that a colonel is in the same field as a corporal or private mate (most of the time at least), where a corporal etc is probs on the front line and a colonel will either be in the UNSC fleet command or sat sipping coffee somewhere, a comparison to a warrant officer or master sargeant is probably more fitting

  • 09.06.2011 3:57 PM PDT

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It depends on who the marines/ODSTs are and where. I'd say 50/50 on 1 and 2.

For 3, if it was a Spartan 3, they'd have maybe 75% chance. Spartan 2, like John, I would be completely surprised if they won.

And as a reply to the entire "Elites have more experience" thing, just think, some ODSTs have been fighting for 20 years, maybe longer, in actual battle. Chances are, a few Elite Ultras have only been in actual battle for 10, as I highly doubt they go to battle right out of the womb (inb4eliteanatomy). And some might not ever see combat.

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  • 09.06.2011 4:14 PM PDT


Posted by: Makko Mace
while Buck takes just one plasma shot


No.

  • 09.06.2011 5:08 PM PDT

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Posted by: BlueRuby2k10

Posted by: Makko Mace
while Buck takes just one plasma shot


No.


Really, please tell me where it is stated that ODST armor can take a direct plasma bolt hit.

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Posted by: BlueRuby2k10

Posted by: Makko Mace
while Buck takes just one plasma shot


No.
More like 3.

  • 09.06.2011 5:36 PM PDT


Posted by: Makko Mace

Posted by: BlueRuby2k10

Posted by: Makko Mace
while Buck takes just one plasma shot


No.


Really, please tell me where it is stated that ODST armor can take a direct plasma bolt hit.


The fact that metal is not made of plastic.

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Posted by: Makko Mace

Posted by: BlueRuby2k10

Posted by: Makko Mace
while Buck takes just one plasma shot


No.


Really, please tell me where it is stated that ODST armor can take a direct plasma bolt hit.


The fact that metal is not made of plastic.
And the fact that one Type-25 DER shot can severely damage an unshielded SII makes me think that a lucky ODST could take maybe 3, no 2 shots, before being melted, literally, in half.

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  • 09.06.2011 5:40 PM PDT


Posted by: Onyx81

Posted by: BlueRuby2k10

Posted by: Makko Mace

Posted by: BlueRuby2k10

Posted by: Makko Mace
while Buck takes just one plasma shot


No.


Really, please tell me where it is stated that ODST armor can take a direct plasma bolt hit.


The fact that metal is not made of plastic.
And the fact that one Type-25 DER shot can severely damage an unshielded SII makes me think that a lucky ODST could take maybe 3, no 2 shots, before being melted, literally, in half.


I seriously doubt that. Scratch my previous statement. Three to five.
And one shot can severely damage an unshielded SII? I don't think so.

If that were so, we wouldn't have gotten have gotten as far in the war as we would have. Especially since it's stated that Marines can "hold their own" in ground engagements.

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  • 09.06.2011 5:46 PM PDT

no, maybe, spartan II no, spartan III maybe.

  • 09.06.2011 5:50 PM PDT


Posted by: BlueRuby2k10

If that were so, we wouldn't have gotten have gotten as far in the war as we would have. Especially since it's stated that Marines can "hold their own" in ground engagements.


We made it as far as we did because of space battles. Note that we still lost many colonies to the covenant.

  • 09.06.2011 5:53 PM PDT