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Subject: Blue Team vs. Noble Team

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Blue team would pwn

  • 09.19.2011 8:55 PM PDT
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Oh sorry I messed up. Olivia is alive too I'm pretty sure. So;

John
Fred
Kelly
Linda
Tom
Lucy
Olivia

Swining numbers AND experience into the favor of Blue Team. I can't remember, didn't Tom and Lucy help train NOBLE team?

  • 09.19.2011 9:35 PM PDT

"I may not be perfect, but always been true."

No, they didn't.

  • 09.19.2011 9:38 PM PDT


Posted by: superiorarsenal
Oh sorry I messed up. Olivia is alive too I'm pretty sure. So;

John
Fred
Kelly
Linda
Tom
Lucy
Olivia

Swining numbers AND experience into the favor of Blue Team. I can't remember, didn't Tom and Lucy help train NOBLE team?


If you do by current incarnation rules or whatnot, then John is off that list.

  • 09.19.2011 9:57 PM PDT
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How so? It was never said he wasn't on Blue Team. Just because they got separated doesn't mean they are no longer a team.

  • 09.19.2011 9:59 PM PDT


Posted by: superiorarsenal
How so? It was never said he wasn't on Blue Team. Just because they got separated doesn't mean they are no longer a team.


Seeing how they were assigned to different areas on Earth, then blue team went to Onyx and thus got stuck in the micro dyson sphere...

Yeah I'm pretty sure right now John is not considered part of Blue team.

  • 09.19.2011 10:01 PM PDT
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assigned to different parts of Earth? John was getting awards and Blue Team was probably somewhere else. When the Covenant came they couldn't regroup do to the problems each had on their own hands.

[Edited on 09.19.2011 10:14 PM PDT]

  • 09.19.2011 10:13 PM PDT
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Hell, in first Strike most of Blue Team went down to Reach. This doesn't change the fact that they are still a team.

  • 09.19.2011 10:14 PM PDT


Posted by: superiorarsenal
Hell, in first Strike most of Blue Team went down to Reach. This doesn't change the fact that they are still a team.


In First Strike the Spartans were split up into teams. Those going to the surface were all in RED TEAM. Those in the space op were BLUE TEAM.

There was no "Oh I'm blue team but I just got assigned to go to the planet."

  • 09.19.2011 10:15 PM PDT
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Those were simple call signs. I'm talking(And everyone here is too) about the Blue Team that even insurrectionists recognize. Master Chief's team of S-IIs. Hell, he is the one that designates the teams, so it is up to him anyways(Besides teams like Gray and BLACK).

  • 09.19.2011 10:22 PM PDT


Posted by: superiorarsenal
Those were simple call signs. I'm talking(And everyone here is too) about the Blue Team that even insurrectionists recognize. Master Chief's team of S-IIs. Hell, he is the one that designates the teams, so it is up to him anyways(Besides teams like Gray and BLACK).


(source, halopedia page on blue team)
The unit's roster frequently changed for various combat operations, changing both members and size. During the Battle of Earth, Blue Team was reformed from the surviving SPARTANs on Earth, with the new roster being Frederic-104, Linda-058 and William-043, though later, during the events on and inside Onyx, the team lost Will and increased in number, with Kelly-087 rejoining, as well as Lucy-B091, Tom-B292, Ash-G099, Mark and Olivia joining the team.

According to this paragraph, John is not on the roster of Blue team as of battle of Earth.

[Edited on 09.19.2011 10:28 PM PDT]

  • 09.19.2011 10:26 PM PDT
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And he is the one who determines the roster.

If you can't find a squadmate(Let alone your leader) does that make him no longer in your squad?

  • 09.19.2011 10:38 PM PDT


Posted by: superiorarsenal
And he is the one who determines the roster.

If you can't find a squadmate(Let alone your leader) does that make him no longer in your squad?


*points at above* The current commander of blue team is Fred. HE determines the roster. How can you ignore that clear "The roster of Blue team was Fred, Linda, an will." John was not on it, John would NOT BE ON IT by the time of Onyx. He's listed MIA to them.

  • 09.19.2011 11:19 PM PDT
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You are also citing Halopedian.

Also I would like to point this out. Fred is the commander because John was not present. John=Leader of the S-IIs. Fred=Leader of a specific team due to lack of the actual leader.

Leader of the SPARTANs > Leader of an individual Team

Hence the reason it was JOHN who organized the S-IIs at Reach, and was able to get Kurt in Blue Team. He can change the roster at will.

You also act as if the roster was stated in canon. It was not. You are working your arguement on the basis of the opinions/views of the person who created that particular part.

  • 09.19.2011 11:53 PM PDT

They come now... and they take us... the tide rises.

Is a good challenge between Jhon-117 and B312... they have the same score no?

  • 09.20.2011 1:00 AM PDT


Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron

Posted by: PlasmaSnake893
I came to this thread thinking you meant Blue Team from Red vs Blue.

However, that doesn't change my answer. Halo's Blue Team or Red vs Blue's Blue Team would easily beat Noble Team. (In the latter's case, without Tex.)


I'll respect your opinion, but shake my head at how the heck you think a group of mostly untrained/unskilled 'soldiers', especially with one who has a knack for friendly fire, can defeat a Spartan team.


I wouldn't put much behind Plamsa, he has no grasp of canon.

Haha. Good one. Me misremembering the details regarding the creation of S-IIIs = having no grasp of canon. ~Oh, you~!

Sorry, if you couldn't tell, I was being just a tad facetious. I simply find the Noble Team to be very two dimensional, and the attempts to pull at the players heartstrings by having them die in ways that are very much beneath them to be unappealing. Yes, even a complete layman should be able to tell that Noble Team would probably win a fight against RvB's Blue Team. But because of their shallow character development and how they don't do anything particularly noteworthy in the campaign, I find RvB's Blue Team winning to be a more appealing outcome. Let me put it this way:

RvB Blue Team vs Noble Team (based on the fact they are supposed to be highly trained, elite super-soldiers) = Noble Team wins

RvB Blue Team vs Noble Team (based on their performance and behavior during Reach's campaign) = Blue Team wins.

  • 09.20.2011 9:16 PM PDT

blue of course

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  • 09.20.2011 10:53 PM PDT

key word almost
Posted by: IAmAwsome
but remember noble team like almost saved reach

  • 09.20.2011 10:53 PM PDT

I'm an Anarchist. I don't need a government to be a good person, but I'm glad it's here because some of you clearly do.

Caboose would kill all of Noble on accident.

  • 09.21.2011 3:13 AM PDT

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Posted by: LonE ZealoT

Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Oh yes, because the re-entry pack was completely safe. Looked like Six got banged up pretty bad and still walked it off like a boss.


So banged up his armor was in pristine shape and he was running and jumping off 6 foot ledges with ease 30 minutes later. Didn't even leave a crater.

The Chief on the other hand....Like a Boss shurgs off re entry, tells Sgt. Badass they aren't leaving him there because he's not a 2 ton corpse but instead a 7 foot walking covenant massacre in Hulk green with stare-into-your-doomed-soul golden face plating.


I guess I just imaged that limp Six had after she landed. And you're honestly bringing the condition of the armor into this? When has any Halo game had armor that got progressively worse as the campaign went on?

Halo 2. You actually see the armour's paint chipping throughout the course of the game. Its armour that got progressively worse throughout the game.

[Edited on 09.21.2011 4:11 AM PDT]

  • 09.21.2011 4:08 AM PDT

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Posted by: RECARNATEDBODY
key word almost
Posted by: IAmAwsome
but remember noble team like almost saved reach


They did a better job than those 20+ Spartan II's that made up Red Team, that's for sure.

  • 09.21.2011 12:34 PM PDT

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Posted by: RECARNATEDBODY
key word almost
Posted by: IAmAwsome
but remember noble team like almost saved reach


They did a better job than those 20+ Spartan II's that made up Red Team, that's for sure.


No they didn't... Noble Team didn't do anything to save Reach. They got a few civilians evacuated and destroyed a grand total of 1 Supercarrier before the Covenant fleet came in, the events that followed were beyond their control so they just killed more Covenant.

They did not even come a nanometer close to "saving" Reach.

  • 09.21.2011 2:07 PM PDT


Posted by: ajw34307

Posted by: RKOSNAKE

Posted by: RECARNATEDBODY
key word almost
Posted by: IAmAwsome
but remember noble team like almost saved reach


They did a better job than those 20+ Spartan II's that made up Red Team, that's for sure.


No they didn't... Noble Team didn't do anything to save Reach. They got a few civilians evacuated and destroyed a grand total of 1 Supercarrier before the Covenant fleet came in, the events that followed were beyond their control so they just killed more Covenant.

They did not even come a nanometer close to "saving" Reach.


You're being ridiculous.

Noble Team has done more than most, you say they destroyed a grand total of a single "Supercarrier" like it is some minor accomplishment. Yet, no SPARTAN that we know of has even encountered a Supercarrier, let alone destroyed one, that goes to Six and Jorge, obviously. Noble Team did more to the Covenant during the various engagements of Reach than ANY SPARTAN DID. Why do you think they were selected to undergo secret missions for ONI at the end? Why do you think they were among the first to receive MJOLNIR armor systems? Why do you think Cortana chose them to escort her to the Pillar of Autumn while Red Team was stationed at Aszod? Do you not think?

  • 09.21.2011 9:14 PM PDT
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"Noble Team has done more than most, you say they destroyed a grand total of a single "Supercarrier" like it is some minor accomplishment."

Actually no. Red Team defended a generator that allowed SMACs to take out dozens of cruisers. Fred and Kelly also dropped a nuclear mine into the grav beam of a cruiser, and when it detonated it destroyed 10,000s of Covenant. Then they proceeded to save the top human mind and secure a relic that would allow the Covenant slipspace technology to be majorly advanced. Blue Team in space took out NAV data stopping the Covenant from going from Reach almost directly to Earth.

The S-IIs at Reach did FAAAAAR more than NOBLE Team.

"Yet, no SPARTAN that we know of has even encountered a Supercarrier, let alone destroyed one"

And Master Chief, Johnson, and a rag-tag squad captured a Covenant flagship, the used it to destroy other Covenant ships and the Unyielding-Hierophant. Blue Team took over a Covenant ship and took it to Onyx.

"Noble Team did more to the Covenant during the various engagements of Reach than ANY SPARTAN DID"

Kelly threw a nuke into a Covie ship on Reach and got over 10,000 confirmed kills.

"Why do you think they were among the first to receive MJOLNIR armor systems? "

Wrong, S-IIs got Mark IV before the S-III project had even started.

"Why do you think Cortana chose them to escort her to the Pillar of Autumn"

Considering NOBLE Team was the closest human beings possessing enough skills to do the job. Red Team had more urgent matters to attend to farther away. You seriously think they are going to be able to be lifted to the ONI building while they are in an incredibally one-sided fight against the Covenant in an area that air support would be shot down? Protecting the only thing keeping the Covenant from wiping out the planet with ease?

"Do you not think?"

I am thinking. You are just too concerned with your NOBLE Team/S-III fanboyism that you don't care to notice.








  • 09.21.2011 9:51 PM PDT

Huh, I could've sworn by the time red team was engaged in battle at said Generator... the space battle had gone to hell and the supermacs weren't actually putting a dent in the attack.

  • 09.22.2011 1:50 AM PDT