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I heard someone say once (paraphrasing here) "Multiflag on Blood Gulch with your friends is what makes Halo, Halo." I GUARANTEE that more people agree with that sentiment than "Getting a 50 in MLG is what makes Halo, Halo." - Oboewan42
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Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
Posted by: LonE ZealoT
Well if we're comparing track records:
-Blew up Installation 04 You mean overloaded the PoA reactor's and caused it to tear itself apart.
-Defeated the Galactic super threat known as the Flood, twice You mean once. Second time goes to Cortana (see below)
-Defeated the Covenant Elites get this credit. Thel gets credit for killing Truth, and thus defeating the Covenant
-Survived Reach Chief didn't take place on the ground battle of Reach, therefore this point is null
-Killed the Gravemind Did he? See below. Cortana gets credit
-Blew up High Charity It was already heavily damaged.
-Blew up Installation 04, again He didn't even have anything to do with this. Cortana Activated Halo, it ripped itself apart.
-Did severe damage to the Ark And what does this matter? Credit goes to Cortana anyway
-Survived the Flood outbreaks With trouble. Much less impressive when a marine sergeant survived through most of the library by himself
-Has killed multiple high ranking Covenant military officers So have others.
-Has killed a high ranking prophet Only because reinforcements were denied to Regret. So in a sense, Truth gets some credit.
-Has jumped from a Forerunner ship re-entering atmosphere, and lived. And got KOed and was thought to be dead. Not really a thing to boast about.
-Has a considerably high amount of combat experience against humans, aliens, parasites, and killer insane AI. And...? "Killer insane AI" Haha. He hardly went toe to toe with 343(directly). I don't see how that one came around. Regardless, this one doesn't truly count if we are going off them at time of Battle of Reach eh?
And that's just John.
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Destruction of High Charity
At her recommendation, he overloaded the reactor core, by destroying its pylons, as he maneuvered back through High Charity to meet the Arbiter and re-activate the crashed Pelican to fly out of range of the explosion. High Charity was completely destroyed in the resulting explosions, with only the outer structure remaining when Installation 04B was fired, its debris showering the inactive Installation and the Ark below
Herp derp.
Also, the defeat of Gravemind, activation of 04B it's destruction, and the damage to the Ark "by Cortana" would not have happened if Chief hadn't saved her from rampancy and given her a physical terminal for transportation to the various interfaces she needed to reach. By all rights, he deserves credit.
The marine sergeant in CE's story was never fleshed out, for all we know he only came up against a few forms without human/covenant weaponry instead of the legions of Flood the chief had to bypass.
And I guess shooting a spartan laser at an Insane AI firing red kamehamehas (especially after said red kamehameha firing Insane AI already fired his lazer at you directly on the chest plate) doesn't count as "direct engagement" to you.
And by all means, even if Thel killed Truth you just reminded me, Chief saved the entire galaxy from extinction by fighting his way to the Ark's halo array control and deactivating it. The friggin' galaxy, saved by ONE member of Blue Team.
Finally, surviving Reach doesn't mean only ground engagements. If you would kindly recall an entire fleet of spaceships was in orbit of Reach with thousands (possibly a couple million) covenant troops and attack craft, and the Chief resided in space amongst said uglies so he could complete the Cole Protocol.
Also the fact that the marines thought the Chief was dead from jumping is irrelevant. Anyone would initially believe he was dead because of the sheer impossibility. The fact he survived proves how truly badass he is. Refusing to be taken to the grave by the -blam!- gravity of a planet, how many people can say they've done that?
What have ye to say now?
[Edited on 09.03.2011 9:12 PM PDT]