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Subject: why weren't the halo rings designed to wipe out all flood biomass?

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  • 09.04.2011 11:41 AM PDT

@accordingto343

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Even if you wiped out the Flood here, they would still come back. The Flood threat still isn't over, not while the Timeless One lives.

  • 09.04.2011 11:42 AM PDT

@accordingto343

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Because if you keep some specimens and develop a cure, you won't have to worry about the Flood being a threat. Wiping them away after each new invasion would prove to be a tireless way to deal with the problem. Who knows, the Flood could develop an immunity to the Halo rings after enough blasts. Then what?

  • 09.04.2011 11:51 AM PDT

@accordingto343

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Well, the Flood had a resistance to plasma based weaponry, so anything is possible. The Flood Super Cell is an adaptive bastard. And besides, they were looking for a cure, but they just didn't what to look for. Ancient Humanity did, but were de-evolved before it could be found.

  • 09.04.2011 11:58 AM PDT


Posted by: anish panchalin
They were designed to stop the flood by denying them food and starving them

However, if they had been designed to specifically target any flood biomass (including floodspores and any flood biomass more sophisticated), couldn't they have wiped all flood from the entire galaxy, even including the pure-forms such as infection forms on forerunner instalations?

After all, why study them in containment if the only living beings that could study them at the time of the ring-firing were wiped from the galaxy by the rings anyway (the forerunners)?

Wouldn't it've been beter to comletely wipe flood biomass out, ensuring that no other sentient race after the firing could accidentally set them loose like the covies did on installation 04?


No, the biggest loophole in the Halo universe, a rather stupid one at that.

  • 09.06.2011 9:43 PM PDT
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Maybe it couldn't be done? So the solution is to wipe out everything else, which will wipe out the Flood, and then let the universe start over again?

I don't know. I suppose it keeps the doors open for continuous storylines and sequels... read: 343 industries now acting upon it.

  • 09.06.2011 9:46 PM PDT
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What I'm curious about is how the Humans were able to stop the Flood, whereas the Forerunner couldn't 10,000 years later...

  • 09.06.2011 10:05 PM PDT
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It's been a long time since I read Cryptum, but didn't the Precursor technology that the Halos were based on only target minds and therefore sentient beings? I don't think the Forerunners had anything else.

  • 09.06.2011 10:21 PM PDT


Posted by: jross1993
What I'm curious about is how the Humans were able to stop the Flood, whereas the Forerunner couldn't 10,000 years later...


Probaly because if you remember Halo Legends, it said that the Forerunners were a peaceful society so they didn't have great military strategy or weapons whereas (also stated in Halo Legends) the Human race had been built up through war.

This mean't that a large portion of Humanity was built around weapons of mass destruction. The Forerunners may have had the advanced technology, but they didn't have the massive firepower the UNSC did to pretty much nuke the Flood when it showed up on our doorstep.

  • 09.06.2011 10:52 PM PDT

The flood did not come from this galaxy, so the forerunner probably kept some around for the next generation to study in the event that they did return.

And were it not for the covenant, humanity would've eventually discovered their forerunner "heritage" and reclaimed everything at a much slower pace, and eventually discovered the flood that were locked away...WITHOUT setting them loose, letting them study them at their leisure and perhaps develop a cure...again - just in case they returned.

Sure woulda been a hell of a lot smoother than at turned out.

[Edited on 09.07.2011 3:58 AM PDT]

  • 09.07.2011 3:55 AM PDT


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The flood did not come from this galaxy, so the forerunner probably kept some around to study in the event that they did return.


thing is, the sentinels and forerunner AI/monitors had thousands of years with the flood to find a cure and they never did whereas ancient humanity took only decades? Doesn't this seem a little ridiculous, seeing as forerunners are supposed to be so much more advanced than humans, ancient or UNSC/modern?


I think the reason humanity was able to develop a cure was because they were willing to go to super extreme measures to find it. That's probably another reason the forerunners chose humanity as their successors: the willingness to do what is needed, regardless of the cost.

Now...wiping out all life in the galaxy can also be considered "super extreme measures", but uh...we dont know the exact circumstances I guess. I don't think the forerunners are the type of people to ask...or force 1/3 of their population to go sacrifice themselves.

Maybe we'll find out in the next 2 books.

  • 09.07.2011 4:03 AM PDT

Because Flood biology is literally too adaptable. It had evolved beyond being able to be targeted on a cullular level.

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Posted by: jross1993
What I'm curious about is how the Humans were able to stop the Flood, whereas the Forerunner couldn't 10,000 years later...


Probaly because if you remember Halo Legends, it said that the Forerunners were a peaceful society so they didn't have great military strategy or weapons whereas (also stated in Halo Legends) the Human race had been built up through war.

This mean't that a large portion of Humanity was built around weapons of mass destruction. The Forerunners may have had the advanced technology, but they didn't have the massive firepower the UNSC did to pretty much nuke the Flood when it showed up on our doorstep.

No, you misunderstand.

I'm talking about the ancient human's encounter with the Flood. They were able to drive them back out of the galaxy all while battling the Forerunners. Sure, they lost to the Forerunner, but they were able to hold back the Flood.

By memory they used some kind of vaccine to hold back the Flood.

(Also, the Forerunners weren't as peaceful as you think.)

  • 09.07.2011 4:43 AM PDT

Note that the flood were, for all purposes, wiped out by humanity. The flood that ultimately doomed the forerunner did not appear until a mere 300 years before the book takes place. How long was humanity at war with the flood before they developed a cure...thousands of years? So the forerunner no being prepared is understandable, since they probably didn't even know what a the flood looked like outside of questioning humans about it.

  • 09.07.2011 8:09 AM PDT

Only way to wipe out the flood, is to starve them to death.

there are still flood out of our galaxy.

  • 09.07.2011 8:38 AM PDT

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