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Posted by: otterboyz
The assumption that our technology would sky rocket past that of the Sangheili is misguided.
How long did the UNSC have the knowledge and research of forerunner complex on the planet onyx? since 2511.
within that time, no technology what so ever had been brought from that.
now humanity has a massive slip space portal in Africa and 1 flood infested halo installation, what there going to get from those except for faster travel is little to none.
also, the first technology we could make from this would be quite similar to Covenant tech as that is essentially reversed engineered forerunner tech, though we will improve on it, but whats to say the Sangheili won't do the same? the are controlled by the religious views of the prophets and are now no longer forbidden to tamper with the technology, not to mention the fact that they most likely have millions more Huragok than us, as opposed to our one.
The Sangheili cannot advance, they can really only go back the way. They have almost no scientific base, and have not had one for nearly 3000 years. They do not have the scientific understand required to produce this technology (Not even the Prophets had that) nor do they have access to the Prophets blueprints. They cannot replace weapons or repair ships. (Certain weapons and technologies were only produced on High Charity, now lost forever) They also don't really have that much Huragok, given the fact that we know that they cannot mass produce weaponry anymore, nor repair their ships. A theory that fits the facts. One has to wonder how much of their infrastructure is based on technology that they cannot understand. (They have a dam that is essentially a giant energy shield. If that begins to break down, what are they going to do?)
Humanity meanwhile has brought their terraforming time of glassed planets down from 300 years to just 30 years judging from the end of Reach. I think it is safe to say that Humanity eclipses the Elites by 2580s. As for the other things, Humanity's access to Onyx was stumped by the AI Assembly in fear that Humanity was not quite ready for such powerful technology. Halsey only managed to decrypt the Forerunner language in 2552 at the Babd Catha artifact. With this, advances will probably come in a lot quicker now that we can fully access their databases.
Most of this is rather drilled home quite incessantly in the Return you know...
Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
Would you openly say "I respect the fighting spirit of the humans." in the Covenant at all? Like in conversations from the universe.
I remember that Halopedia gave a reason (I don't know if it is still there) that Elites only said these things to impress the Prophets, and secretly discussed Humanity's bravery amongst themselves. Despite the issue with using Conversations from the Universe as a source for this (It is only 2 Elites), there are many instances of Elites verbally trashing Humans even when they are in private, or thinking these things inside their own head. Most of the above list do it.
Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
Besides, didn't Thel agree with Zhar about the humans maybe having some honor about the ODST who stayed behind to fight them?
He dismissed it by saying "You think too much, Zharn".
When Thel returned from his mission to the 23 Librae system with a promotion to a command in the newly formed Fleet of Particular Justice, he confided in Lak that he was confused about his old beliefs about the perceived omnipotence of the San 'Shyuum and the worthlessness of the humans.
He was telling Lak about how he met a Human as strong and fast as them, not about their supposed worthiness. Nothing about the subject was mentioned after that.