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Subject: So Im reading Cryptum and one thing bugs me

I was at a baseball game wondering why the ball gets bigger as it comes closer.......then it hit me.......
Objection!
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What exactly is Riser? Born refers to him as a human but how he is described makes him seem like something akin to a lemur.

  • 09.04.2011 5:55 PM PDT

there was once several species of humans like the Neanderthals

  • 09.04.2011 5:58 PM PDT

Eat, Sleep, Row

I think of him as kind of a dwarf

  • 09.04.2011 6:02 PM PDT

I was at a baseball game wondering why the ball gets bigger as it comes closer.......then it hit me.......
Objection!
Lmgtfy
lmsbtfy


Posted by: monkDAN
there was once several species of humans like the Neanderthals

This is correct but I'd imagine neanderthals to look human without a noticeable chin. Riser was described as having fur and a gray snout

  • 09.04.2011 6:05 PM PDT
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i did not like the book. i thought it was a little silly more akin to some star wars fan fiction

  • 09.04.2011 6:07 PM PDT

In reality, there were dozens of different species of upright ape-men, and among them was a species of human that lived on the Indonesian island of Flores. They were called -blam!- floresiensis. They were around three feet tall or shorter, and although they had a small brain, the morphology of their brain allowed them to be fairly intelligent and they created stone tools. Although it was originally assumed they speciated from -blam!- erectus, the primitive morphology of their wrist indicates that they evolved from an earlier hominin, maybe -blam!- habilis or an even earlier animal, like one of the Australopithecines. Within the Halo universe, the fiction goes that the Forerunners devolved the ancient human empire into multiple different species, a preventive act to keep them from unifying and rising up again. Riser is a hamamune, or Florian, or -blam!- floresiensis.

  • 09.04.2011 6:09 PM PDT

Don't -blam!- with Kerser!

Riser is 1.65 meters tall. I am 1.75 meters tall. So he is not a dwarf. He is the same size as a regular human.

  • 09.04.2011 6:10 PM PDT

I was at a baseball game wondering why the ball gets bigger as it comes closer.......then it hit me.......
Objection!
Lmgtfy
lmsbtfy


Posted by: CavemanBCE
In reality, there were dozens of different species of upright ape-men, and among them was a species of human that lived on the Indonesian island of Flores. They were called -blam!- floresiensis. They were around three feet tall or shorter, and although they had a small brain, the morphology of their brain allowed them to be fairly intelligent and they created stone tools. Although it was originally assumed they speciated from -blam!- erectus, the primitive morphology of their wrist indicates that they evolved from an earlier hominin, maybe -blam!- habilis or an even earlier animal, like one of the Australopithecines. Within the Halo universe, the fiction goes that the Forerunners devolved the ancient human empire into multiple different species, a preventive act to keep them from unifying and rising up again. Riser is a hamamune, or Florian, or -blam!- floresiensis.

ah thanks and your username fits your paragraph

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  • 09.04.2011 6:10 PM PDT


Posted by: RedSpectrum77

Posted by: CavemanBCE
In reality, there were dozens of different species of upright ape-men, and among them was a species of human that lived on the Indonesian island of Flores. They were called -blam!- floresiensis. They were around three feet tall or shorter, and although they had a small brain, the morphology of their brain allowed them to be fairly intelligent and they created stone tools. Although it was originally assumed they speciated from -blam!- erectus, the primitive morphology of their wrist indicates that they evolved from an earlier hominin, maybe -blam!- habilis or an even earlier animal, like one of the Australopithecines. Within the Halo universe, the fiction goes that the Forerunners devolved the ancient human empire into multiple different species, a preventive act to keep them from unifying and rising up again. Riser is a hamamune, or Florian, or -blam!- floresiensis.

ah thanks and your username fits your paragraph


Yes it does, lol.

  • 09.04.2011 6:14 PM PDT


Posted by: CavemanBCE
In reality, there were dozens of different species of upright ape-men, and among them was a species of human that lived on the Indonesian island of Flores. They were called -blam!- floresiensis. They were around three feet tall or shorter, and although they had a small brain, the morphology of their brain allowed them to be fairly intelligent and they created stone tools. Although it was originally assumed they speciated from -blam!- erectus, the primitive morphology of their wrist indicates that they evolved from an earlier hominin, maybe -blam!- habilis or an even earlier animal, like one of the Australopithecines. Within the Halo universe, the fiction goes that the Forerunners devolved the ancient human empire into multiple different species, a preventive act to keep them from unifying and rising up again. Riser is a hamamune, or Florian, or -blam!- floresiensis.


Very good analysis, but I also find it hilarious that the B-net turns h o m o into -blam!-.

  • 09.04.2011 6:17 PM PDT


Posted by: Thugzz Deluxxxe

Posted by: CavemanBCE
In reality, there were dozens of different species of upright ape-men, and among them was a species of human that lived on the Indonesian island of Flores. They were called -blam!- floresiensis. They were around three feet tall or shorter, and although they had a small brain, the morphology of their brain allowed them to be fairly intelligent and they created stone tools. Although it was originally assumed they speciated from -blam!- erectus, the primitive morphology of their wrist indicates that they evolved from an earlier hominin, maybe -blam!- habilis or an even earlier animal, like one of the Australopithecines. Within the Halo universe, the fiction goes that the Forerunners devolved the ancient human empire into multiple different species, a preventive act to keep them from unifying and rising up again. Riser is a hamamune, or Florian, or -blam!- floresiensis.


Very good analysis, but I also find it hilarious that the B-net turns h o m o into -blam!-.


Yeah, their censor is pretty bad.

  • 09.04.2011 6:22 PM PDT
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aug 2012

What were the forerunners then ? A sort of Proto Human race ?

  • 09.04.2011 7:09 PM PDT

One of the many ancestors and sub-divisions within the whole of the Human race. Since Halo is ultimately fiction does it matter what Rise is exactly? All we know is that he is Human and looks something like what one would consider your average caveman. And since 343i made up names for Riser and Chakas' different races I don't think they intended them to be recognizable as any sub-division of Human-kind that we know now.

  • 09.04.2011 7:16 PM PDT

To be honest, when I first saw all this in the weekly update I thought 2 things.
#1- there is an actual legendary ending but,
#2- No matter what anyone does,(kill all the bobs, hit all switches etc) that until the "time" mentioned in "There'll be another time..." is reached there won't be a legendary ending.

The weekly update by bungie has slowed my hardcore search for what unlocks the legendary ending.


Posted by: monkDAN
there was once several species of humans like the Neanderthals
Humans that we know of

  • 09.04.2011 7:18 PM PDT


Posted by: PARAEGIS
What were the forerunners then ? A sort of Proto Human race ?


Forerunners aren't genetically related to Humans at all, not that we know of at least. They're two very separate species. Since the rest of the Forerunner Saga isn't out yet we'll just have to wait and see, but from what we know right now it would not seem that Forerunners and Humans are genetic relations at all.

  • 09.04.2011 7:27 PM PDT

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I think of him as kind of a Dwarf, like RECKLESS said.

  • 09.04.2011 7:30 PM PDT


Posted by: OrderedComa

Posted by: PARAEGIS
What were the forerunners then ? A sort of Proto Human race ?


Forerunners aren't genetically related to Humans at all, not that we know of at least. They're two very separate species. Since the rest of the Forerunner Saga isn't out yet we'll just have to wait and see, but from what we know right now it would not seem that Forerunners and Humans are genetic relations at all.


I've heard otherwise from other people, but if this is true, I'm glad. The Forerunners must have just allowed their technology to accept human use. As for your earlier comment: the appearance of Riser, the fact that in the Halo universe, the various human species are a product of "devolution", as well as his being referred to as a "Florian" seems to suggest that he is in fact a member of -blam!- floresiensis.

  • 09.04.2011 7:40 PM PDT


Posted by: CavemanBCE

Posted by: OrderedComa

Posted by: PARAEGIS
What were the forerunners then ? A sort of Proto Human race ?


Forerunners aren't genetically related to Humans at all, not that we know of at least. They're two very separate species. Since the rest of the Forerunner Saga isn't out yet we'll just have to wait and see, but from what we know right now it would not seem that Forerunners and Humans are genetic relations at all.


I've heard otherwise from other people, but if this is true, I'm glad. The Forerunners must have just allowed their technology to accept human use. As for your earlier comment: the appearance of Riser, the fact that in the Halo universe, the various human species are a product of "devolution", as well as his being referred to as a "Florian" seems to suggest that he is in fact a member of -blam!- floresiensis.


Well as I said we really don't know yet whether Humans and Forerunners are related, or if they are how close of a relation it is. But yeah from what we've seen so far from Cryptum and other new sources dealing with the Forerunners it does not seem like they are related to Humans. Actually now that I think about it there are still little clues hinting that they might be genetic relatives, but they're small ones that may or not ever be resolved. Either way, it's inconclusive right now.

Meh, I'm just going to agree to disagree, I don't think they really meant any of the Human types that appear in the Forerunner saga to really be anything :/

  • 09.04.2011 8:02 PM PDT

The whole Forerunner-Human relation and human "devolution" has kind of bothered me ever since I first heard about it. If humans and Forerunners were created by the Precursors, then why does our species share so much in common genetically and behaviorally with the extant great apes? If we were created separately from the rest of the life on Earth, we'd have extremely different DNA, if we even had "DNA" as we currently recognize it. If Forerunners look vaguely like humans, then either they are related somehow they have reached such an incredibly high state of convergent evolution, the odds of reaching that are astronomical.

  • 09.04.2011 8:17 PM PDT