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Posted by: Old Salty27
While I disagree with what you said I'll defend to the death you're right to say it. :P
But in all seriousness if you re-read Contact Harvest Bias tells the to be Phrophets that we are his makers, living forerunners and in the Halo-3 Terminals the Librarian goes on about her discovery of Humanity and Earth so late into the War and how all of it could shed light on Forerunner origins.
And I'm not trying to hate Cryptum, I even said on it's own it's an interesting story, but to me it doesn't feel like Halo. I do appreciate that a lot of people like the new direction of the series, but I just wanted to throw in my two cents on the subject. I didn't mean to come off as a troll if that's what it seemed like.
No, I never thought you were a troll, just misinformed.
That said, I don't think you read what I wrote all to well. I agree that Medicant Bias said "Those it represents are my makers." In fact I can remember everything Bias said in detail without needing the book, in part because of its importance, and in part because he says so little. "For eons I have watched, listened to you misinterpret. This is not Reclamation, this is Reclaimer, and those it represents are my makers. I will reject my Bias and will make amends. My makers are my masters. I will bring them safely to the Ark."
I can understand why someone would think this is a retcon, I thought the same as well initially. It is in fact not, however. If you remember what Guilty Spark said: "You are the child of my makers, inheritor of all they left behind. You are Forerunner but this ring is mine!" he actually heavily implies throughout that entire rant that we are related to the Forerunner race, not the Forerunners themselves. He says "child of my makers" not "my makers." He says "inheritor of all they left behind" not "creator of all they left behind." When put in context, that does not make sense given what Bias says in Harvest. And it didn't make sense until Cryptum.
I return you again to the fact that Forerunner is a title, not a race of individuals. Those who have inherited the Mantle are Forerunners. We are Forerunners. The race who comes after us are Forerunners. Precursors are not Forerunners because they are ther creators of the Mantle (literally, Precursor means "one that precedes and indicates the approach of another" which is to say, the original). If you look at it the way Bear wrote it, with the Forerunner race as we know it being a seperate, yet genetically related, race, it makes perfect sense, and still insures that Spark and Bias were in fact telling the truth. We are Medicant Bias' masters, and as Forerunners, we are his maker; take note of the chosen word "represents" saying we represent the Forerunner lineage, we are not the Ancient race of beings who literally constructed the Halos. In Spark's rampage, he refused to accept the Humans' title as Forerunner and so only saw it in a literal and biased sense, being the ignorant, dumb child that would see it all destroyed rather then the mature Forerunner who would protect it.
As for the terminals, I cannot recall what you said, and as I'm pretty sure Halopedia is hacked again, I'm not going to search for it. I will say this though: understand that we're only in book one, so we will be understandably lost. Considering the plethora of revelations and twist, I think thats kinda supposed to be the point. So lets wait for Primordial and Book Three before calling sucktitude.
[Edited on 09.06.2011 2:55 PM PDT]