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Subject: Reach was the BIGGEST letdown of ALL letdowns in Halo games.
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Halo CE: GOLDEN.

Halo 2: Auto-aim and bullet magnetism at an all time high. This being said, the better shooter always won.

Halo 3: Auto-aim and magnetism are toned down, but a random BR spread is added. This being said, the better shooter in close and medium range (medium range being most frequent for encounters to take place in, in Halo) still won. Mid-Long/Long range combat is slightly tarnished through randomness.

Reach: Auto-aim and magnetism changes are indescribable due to the addition of hitscan (which was a good choice. Congrats on doing at least one thing right, Bungie), but they're nearly the same as Halo 3's. This alone is a disappointment. A dynamic spread and respective reticle bloom is added to all precision weapons (dynamic spreads (what many refer to as "bloom") have always been in Halo--just on automatic weapons only). Due to bloom's addition, the better player is no longer the better player. Instances such as this are frequent. Medium range combat (again, the range that the majority of battles take place in) is completely ruined and random. It's 100% teamshotting, no individual battles/skill. There is no "out-dmr'ing" people; it's "who is the better team?", and that's it.

Reach has tarnished Halo. It has brought this mentality to the weak-minded that "competitive players hate change." No. We don't hate change. We hate retarded change--change that utterly ruins the competitive merit of the game.

Thank you so much for your time.

[Edited on 09.07.2011 4:34 PM PDT]

  • 09.07.2011 4:18 PM PDT
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"In Halo 3 not all 50's were good players, but all good players were 50's."

Your opinion is invalid.

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  • 09.07.2011 4:19 PM PDT

"War is the science of destruction."

Opinion.

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  • 09.07.2011 4:19 PM PDT
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Posted by: Hayabusam60
Opinion.

/thread
I knew that.

\thread

  • 09.07.2011 4:20 PM PDT

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Posted by: THREE FOUR THREE
It has brought this mentality to the weak-minded that "competitive players hate change." No. We don't hate change. We hate retarded change--change that utterly ruins the competitive merit of the game.



This part is something too many reachTards think.

  • 09.07.2011 4:20 PM PDT

While I agree with your thread, I smell trollop.

  • 09.07.2011 4:21 PM PDT

lxl Syphon lxl

Let me guess, when Halo 4 comes ouut you're gonna complain how it sucks and how Reach was the best Halo ever like everyone else?

Reach is a great game, period.

[Edited on 09.07.2011 4:22 PM PDT]

  • 09.07.2011 4:21 PM PDT
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Posted by: lxl Syphon lxl22
Let me guess, when Halo 4 comes ouut you're gonna complain how it sucks and how Reach was the best Halo ever like everyone else?

Reach is a great game, period.
Um. No. Lol.

You can't get worse than Reach. Period.

And even if Halo 4 does suck, I'll say "This sucks, bring back Halo trilogy gameplay. Reach will never be looked back at as something great by competitive players.

Again: PERIOD.

  • 09.07.2011 4:23 PM PDT

I r guy who gun to teach u lesson

Halo 4 comes out.....


HALO 4 SUK HALO RECH WA WAYYYY BETTER MAN. LETS GO BAK TO RECH

  • 09.07.2011 4:24 PM PDT


Posted by: lxl Syphon lxl22
Let me guess, when Halo 4 comes ouut you're gonna complain how it sucks and how Reach was the best Halo ever like everyone else?

Reach is a great game, period.



I never complained about a Halo game until now, H3 was better than H2, H2 was better than CE.


343 will have to mess up bad to make me say that Reach is better than Halo 4.


The BR spread was not random, unless you were trying to shoot the whole way across Sandtrap.

[Edited on 09.07.2011 4:26 PM PDT]

  • 09.07.2011 4:24 PM PDT
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Posted by: Statefarm98
Halo 4 comes out.....


HALO 4 SUK HALO RECH WA WAYYYY BETTER MAN. LETS GO BAK TO RECH
hurr durr read my last post.

  • 09.07.2011 4:25 PM PDT

A man chooses....A slave obay's....

If you want someth'n done right, you gatta pick up a grenade launcher and do it yourself!

Halo 3 is trash, Reach is ok. Your argument is invalid.

  • 09.07.2011 4:27 PM PDT

Just your average nice guy playing video games here in there. Been playing Halo since Halo 2. Hope to play Halo: CE.

Anyways, love everyone.

Don't worry. You will soon worship Reach once Halo 4 comes out. It always happens.

Halo: CE people hate Halo 2.

Halo 2 people hate Halo 3.

Halo 3 people hate Reach.

Reach people will hate Halo 4.

And so on. It will happen, you can't stop it. Deal with it. Adapt.

  • 09.07.2011 4:28 PM PDT

lxl Syphon lxl


Posted by: THREE FOUR THREE
Posted by: lxl Syphon lxl22
Let me guess, when Halo 4 comes ouut you're gonna complain how it sucks and how Reach was the best Halo ever like everyone else?

Reach is a great game, period.
Um. No. Lol.

You can't get worse than Reach. Period.

And even if Halo 4 does suck, I'll say "This sucks, bring back Halo trilogy gameplay. Reach will never be looked back at as something great by competitive players.

Again: PERIOD.

I guess its just opinion then but i feel its a little harsh to say its the worst. I mean i've never played a Halo game that disappointed (besides ODST)

  • 09.07.2011 4:28 PM PDT
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Posted by: Legion64
Don't worry. You will soon worship Reach once Halo 4 comes out. It always happens.

Halo: CE people hate Halo 2.

Halo 2 people hate Halo 3.

Halo 3 people hate Reach.

Reach people will hate Halo 4.

And so on. It will happen, you can't stop it. Deal with it. Adapt.
The only people that will look back to Reach as something good are those who suck.

Adapt to that fact.

Edit: Not to mention that the same bad changes have gotten worse in every installment. Did we ask for slower movement? No. So, we get slower movement in each installment. Did we ask for individual battles to get more random? No, yet, with each installment they have.

[Edited on 09.07.2011 4:33 PM PDT]

  • 09.07.2011 4:30 PM PDT
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Halo 3 is trash, Reach is ok. Your argument is invalid.

You're trash, Reach is your mom. Your argument is retarded.

  • 09.07.2011 4:30 PM PDT
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In MY own humble opinion, the way the games should be ranked as far as campaign goes:
1. Halo 2
2. Halo 3
3. Halo 1
4. Halo ODST
5. Halo Wars
6. Halo Reach
Now, on to MM:
1. Halo 3
2. Halo 2
3. Halo 1
4. Halo Reach
5. Halo ODST
6. Halo Wars
Again, my own humble opinion.

  • 09.07.2011 4:33 PM PDT

Just your average nice guy playing video games here in there. Been playing Halo since Halo 2. Hope to play Halo: CE.

Anyways, love everyone.


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Posted by: Legion64
Don't worry. You will soon worship Reach once Halo 4 comes out. It always happens.

Halo: CE people hate Halo 2.

Halo 2 people hate Halo 3.

Halo 3 people hate Reach.

Reach people will hate Halo 4.

And so on. It will happen, you can't stop it. Deal with it. Adapt.
The only people that will look back to Reach as something good are those who suck.

Adapt to that fact.

Edit: Not to mention that the same bad changes have gotten worse in every installment. Did we ask for slower movement? No. So, we get slower movement in each installment. Did we ask for individual battles to get more random? No, yet, with each installment they have.


How is it a fact? Do you have any statistics?

  • 09.07.2011 4:35 PM PDT
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Posted by: Legion64
How is it a fact?
Because good players don't want to play games that limit how good they can perform?

Nah, that's just silly.

  • 09.07.2011 4:38 PM PDT

Reach has the best multiplayer IMO. 2 or 3 has best campaign. it seems to me that bungie did not try as hard for the reach campaign and story, because it is like one long firefight. In H3, the story was great, different levels, in reach it is all the same. IMO

[Edited on 09.07.2011 4:45 PM PDT]

  • 09.07.2011 4:40 PM PDT
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If it's not broken we'll fix until it is.

-Bungie

That's really sad if you think reach has the best multiplayer.

  • 09.07.2011 4:48 PM PDT
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Well, I have to go, guys.

Continue discussing how Reach could either be a road-bump in Halo's awesomeness, or the poison that eventually weakens and kills Halo as a whole through the use of retarded mechanics that Reach brought, in future Halos.

Later.

  • 09.07.2011 4:48 PM PDT

Halo CE: Garbage on a cracker

Halo 2: Annoying game equivalent to stabbing your eyes with rusty forks.

Halo 3: Same thing as above but the forks are caked with crap and glitter to give it that HD revamp.

Reach: Good concept, bad execution.

  • 09.07.2011 4:53 PM PDT

For the most part he is right.

But you guys don't know that because you post before you read long threads, lol.

  • 09.07.2011 4:55 PM PDT

The guy you 'out played' only fired 4 shots. willing to guess you died shortly after you killed him.

  • 09.07.2011 4:56 PM PDT