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Subject: Emile's Armor.

As you know Emile's armor consest of a right shoulder Security Varient with a Kukri on it. On his left an Operater. Chest, Sapper. Soft-case, FJ Para knees, and his siganature skull carved EVA helmet.

His helmet is the topic though. The EVA/PAA was meant for Spartans working extensively in space or in a vaccum. Emile is never in space or a vaccum throughout the entire campaign or likely ever. So why would be be wearing an EVA helmet.

If someone knows why go right and say it, but logisticaly it doesn't make since.

[Edited on 09.07.2011 5:31 PM PDT]

  • 09.07.2011 5:31 PM PDT

A helmet with a wide range of view with a Spartan who always carries a shotgun around. Makes sense.
Also off-topic, Emile says that he loves blowing stuff up but the only time he ever does that is when he's on the mass driver. He's more a close-range specialist.

[Edited on 09.07.2011 5:33 PM PDT]

  • 09.07.2011 5:33 PM PDT


Posted by: BlueRuby2k10
A helmet with a wide range of view with a Spartan who always carries a shotgun around. Makes sense.
Also off-topic, Emile says that he loves blowing stuff up but the only time he ever does that is when he's on the mass driver. He's more a close-range specialist.


Your logic is flawed. The Pilot has a wide range of veiw. It's not about veiw anyway, the EVA/PAA is a pressurized suit designed for vaccums. His helmet should be a CQB or a JFO, they have large open visors, but there not preesurized in a way that could be dangerous.

  • 09.07.2011 5:38 PM PDT


Posted by: xAwesome Saucex

Posted by: BlueRuby2k10
A helmet with a wide range of view with a Spartan who always carries a shotgun around. Makes sense.
Also off-topic, Emile says that he loves blowing stuff up but the only time he ever does that is when he's on the mass driver. He's more a close-range specialist.


Your logic is flawed. The Pilot has a wide range of veiw. It's not about veiw anyway, the EVA/PAA is a pressurized suit designed for vaccums. His helmet should be a CQB or a JFO, they have large open visors, but there not preesurized in a way that could be dangerous.


How is using EVA dangerous? Also, EVA does not mean Space entirely. I means areas vehicles are not good in.

  • 09.07.2011 5:41 PM PDT


Posted by: BlueRuby2k10
A helmet with a wide range of view with a Spartan who always carries a shotgun around. Makes sense.
Also off-topic, Emile says that he loves blowing stuff up but the only time he ever does that is when he's on the mass driver. He's more a close-range specialist.


Yeah, but that's during The Fall of Reach, notice all the dynamite on his armor? He's probably something like a sapper, a demolitions guy like Mickey, you just don't ever see him do anything like that. It would've been cool thought, but because he didn't, he basically carried all that dynamite for nothing lol

  • 09.07.2011 5:41 PM PDT


Posted by: xAwesome Saucex

Posted by: BlueRuby2k10
A helmet with a wide range of view with a Spartan who always carries a shotgun around. Makes sense.
Also off-topic, Emile says that he loves blowing stuff up but the only time he ever does that is when he's on the mass driver. He's more a close-range specialist.


Your logic is flawed. The Pilot has a wide range of veiw. It's not about veiw anyway, the EVA/PAA is a pressurized suit designed for vaccums. His helmet should be a CQB or a JFO, they have large open visors, but there not preesurized in a way that could be dangerous.


Who says Emile's helmet is pressurized? Noble Team's armor is customized. Plus EVA gives him more space to carve.

[Edited on 09.07.2011 6:08 PM PDT]

  • 09.07.2011 6:07 PM PDT
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Posted by: MisterBraz
Yeah, but that's during The Fall of Reach, notice all the dynamite on his armor? He's probably something like a sapper, a demolitions guy like Mickey, you just don't ever see him do anything like that. It would've been cool thought, but because he didn't, he basically carried all that dynamite for nothing lol

Yeah, doesn't one of the pieces of his armor have sapper in the name? Anyway, 'sapper' is military slang for Combat Engineer. For people that are wondering.

  • 09.07.2011 10:13 PM PDT

also I forgot to mention, but while cool Emile's skull carving should not have been allowed to be formed.

Seeing as PAA armor is expesive enough, and the carving could become a fatalily dangerous breach in the EVA helmets visor. It could cause the infistructure of the helmet to break down easier,

Carter, being a official officer and leader of his team, should have never allowed Emile to do that to his helmet.

But then again, it is a very cool skull.

  • 09.09.2011 9:52 PM PDT


Posted by: xAwesome Saucex
also I forgot to mention, but while cool Emile's skull carving should not have been allowed to be formed.

Seeing as PAA armor is expesive enough, and the carving could become a fatalily dangerous breach in the EVA helmets visor. It could cause the infistructure of the helmet to break down easier,

Carter, being a official officer and leader of his team, should have never allowed Emile to do that to his helmet.

But then again, it is a very cool skull.


If it truly harmed the defensive or visual value of the visor, Carter and command would replace the helm.

Since they clearly did not, it can only be assumed that the skull does not damage the visor's defensive strength, nor does it hamper vision.

  • 09.09.2011 10:38 PM PDT

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Posted by: Agustus
I lol'd at the absurd miscommunication that occurs whenever dibbs post something. Perhaps his brain is so highly evolved that he can no longer clearly communicate with lesser life forms, even among his own species.

There is a skull carved into his helmet. Logic is the last thing they were trying to appeal to with that character.

  • 09.09.2011 11:10 PM PDT


Posted by: dibbs089
There is a skull carved into his helmet. Logic is the last thing they were trying to appeal to with that character.

  • 09.10.2011 6:29 AM PDT

I say he should have branded the skull on his visor :-P

  • 09.10.2011 9:40 AM PDT

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Posted by: xAwesome Saucex
also I forgot to mention, but while cool Emile's skull carving should not have been allowed to be formed.

Seeing as PAA armor is expesive enough, and the carving could become a fatalily dangerous breach in the EVA helmets visor. It could cause the infistructure of the helmet to break down easier,

Carter, being a official officer and leader of his team, should have never allowed Emile to do that to his helmet.

But then again, it is a very cool skull.


I'm fairly sure that the visor must have several layers and thus, the carving is only on the outer layer, letting Emile see perfectly clear.

  • 09.10.2011 10:10 AM PDT

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Posted by: xAwesome Saucex

Posted by: BlueRuby2k10
A helmet with a wide range of view with a Spartan who always carries a shotgun around. Makes sense.
Also off-topic, Emile says that he loves blowing stuff up but the only time he ever does that is when he's on the mass driver. He's more a close-range specialist.


Your logic is flawed. The Pilot has a wide range of veiw. It's not about veiw anyway, the EVA/PAA is a pressurized suit designed for vaccums. His helmet should be a CQB or a JFO, they have large open visors, but there not preesurized in a way that could be dangerous.


How is using EVA dangerous? Also, EVA does not mean Space entirely. I means areas vehicles are not good in.
Extra-vehicular activity means "outside of the spaceship", not CQB. And all MJOLNIR suits (ODST armor also, trooper and marine armor maybe, if there's a sealed helmet) work in space.

  • 09.10.2011 10:30 AM PDT

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The person who said participating is important, not winning, obviously never won anything.

The only logical explanation would be that EVA offers a more wider range of view, which is extremely useful in CQC.

  • 09.10.2011 1:09 PM PDT

Bears. Beats. Battlestar Galactica.

Who cares. He can wear whatever helmet he wants.

  • 09.10.2011 2:21 PM PDT
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Posted by: xAwesome Saucex
nor does it hamper vision.


Of course it doesnt.

The image in the visor is a image projected onto a screen via radar systems and possibly exterior camera's, kinda like a projector.

  • 09.10.2011 2:21 PM PDT


Posted by: spud
Posted by: xAwesome Saucex
nor does it hamper vision.


Of course it doesnt.

The image in the visor is a image projected onto a screen via radar systems and possibly exterior camera's, kinda like a projector.


Well thats what someone would think if they were a dumbass. The GUNGNIR Helmet does have a projection unit in it, respectivly.

The other helmets, however do not. The front of the helmet on other helmets is to thin to allow a projector and the camera lense as well as the computer to process the light recieved in the lense and turn it into a image. Also, after extensive use, it is very likely that there would be traces of modeerate to severe eye damage after being that close to the picture. This problem may have been resolved in the GUNGNIR's case however.

No, the visor on all PAA helmets (except the GUNGNIR, of course) is made of a glass/plastic like material that makes it strong as plexi glass, but lighter at the same time. Direct eyesight (along with some optic enhancer units, respectivly) are used in standard MJOLNIR PAA helmets. Such as the CQB/PAA or the SCOUT/PAA.

Only a few such helmets feature a "projector" on them (i.e GUNGNIR), and only possess such "projector' units to ensure maximum protection of the user against external damage.

Which is the reason (speaking of maximum protection, anyway), Emile should not be wearing the EVA/PAA helmet. While providing maximum veiw (something the CQC/PAA or CQB/PAA could provide), it has little structural strength due to 90% of the helmet reserved for the visor. The CQC/PAA or CQB/PAA or even the JFO/PAA have very large visors, while not sacrificing helemt dexterity.

[Edited on 09.10.2011 7:42 PM PDT]

  • 09.10.2011 7:41 PM PDT

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  • 09.10.2011 7:47 PM PDT

Awesome Sauce, you can't back up those claims about the helm visors working different for GUNGNIR vs other helms. ALL helms get static while sitting near the jammers in New Alexandria.

That and the fact if it worked exactly that way the skull would hamper vision, and thus reduce effectiveness. Carter nor Command would allow it.

Thus common sense wins the day with "It does not affect vision in any way."

  • 09.10.2011 7:53 PM PDT


Posted by: Gamer Whale

[/quote]Extra-vehicular activity means "outside of the spaceship", not CQB. And all MJOLNIR suits (ODST armor also, trooper and marine armor maybe, if there's a sealed helmet) work in space.


No, no, and no. Technically, non of the suits except EVA/PAA should work in space as they weren't designed to work in space (unlike the EVA/PAA).

Now, I cant say I know that for sure, but let us look at the description for the EVA...

The EVA helmet was developed using data from the Summa Deep Space Incident.

Now, what was the Summa Deep Space Incident. Well I have no, idea, but I couldn't imagine it being to much fun. My guess is is that something went wrong (in space) and people died because they did not have the proper equipment to survive in a vaccum. Now, it says ...developed using data gathered..., my other guess is is that the UNSC realized they need to develope a suit of PAA that would work excellently in space... i.e., the EVA/PAA was born.

If all suits of UNSC MJOLNIR armor worked in space (a vaccum more specificaly), why would MJOLNIR even need the EVA.

  • 09.10.2011 7:53 PM PDT


Posted by: xAwesome Saucex
Technically, non of the suits except EVA/PAA should work in space as they weren't designed to work in space (unlike the EVA/PAA).

If all suits of UNSC MJOLNIR armor worked in space (a vaccum more specificaly), why would MJOLNIR even need the EVA.


Halo: The Fall of Reach.

Basic, default versions of Mark IV operate in space fine.

Basic, default versions of Mark V operate is space fine.

Halo 2

Basic, default version of Mark VI operate in space fine.

I'm sorry to say, ALL variants of MJOLNIR armor and helms will work in space. EVA is just specialized to work the best.

  • 09.10.2011 8:03 PM PDT


Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
Awesome Sauce, you can't back up those claims about the helm visors working different for GUNGNIR vs other helms. ALL helms get static while sitting near the jammers in New Alexandria.

That and the fact if it worked exactly that way the skull would hamper vision, and thus reduce effectiveness. Carter nor Command would allow it.

Thus common sense wins the day with "It does not affect vision in any way."


Well to your dismay, I can...

Helmet: The MJOLNIR Helmet is one of the most crucial aspects to the MJOLNIR system. It is made of Titanium and contains key features like a Heads Up Display that links to the brain and hands, and can identify equipment and display information about it when it is picked up by the wearer. Another feature is the direct neural interface system which connects to a SPARTAN-IIs neural implants. Two core processor chips are implanted into the subjects skull in the rear of the head. This is essentially comparable to an on board computer using parts of the human brain for processing, when the connector at the rear of the subjects head and receptors in the brain link to the helmets on board sensors it creates the neural link needed to move the MJOLNIR suit. The helmet also contains other equipment to protect and aid the user in hostile conditions. This includes: filters to remove toxins from the atmosphere, a supply to provide air to the wearer during EVA, thermal and motion sensors, communications, solar-powered lighting, and imaging and video gear. The helmet also contains the A.I housing, where a ship-borne AI chip is inserted, located on the back of the helmet.

Thats the enire description of the Mark V helmet (standard base for all Reach helmets, except the Mark VI). And in that text there is nothing saying anything about a "projector like system". Where it says video and imaging gear it means equipment to take pictures or video within the helmet (like the pictures taken of the Covenant Invasion Army in the cutscene before the battle scene on "Tip Of The Spear", or the video taken of Six's death from his helmet in the last cutscene of "Lone Wolf") and not an actual viewing system.

I will grant you (like I said), the GUNGNIR helmet does have a projector, respectivily. One of the reasons that the front of the GUNGNIR helmet is so big and thick.

One last thing, in the cutscene/mission "Noble Actual", on the inside of the helmet (which you look into before putting it on in the Warthog) the visor doesn't look much like a display screen but the result of a anti reflectent film being shown at an angle. However, I have not seen the cutscene while wearing the GUNGNIR helmet, so that cant be comfirmed different for the GUNGNIR helmet, but I imagine that it is, since visor colors effect what you see.

If anyone has watched "Noble Actual" with the GUNGNIR helmet on please confirm that info.

  • 09.10.2011 8:15 PM PDT


Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron

Posted by: xAwesome Saucex
Technically, non of the suits except EVA/PAA should work in space as they weren't designed to work in space (unlike the EVA/PAA).

If all suits of UNSC MJOLNIR armor worked in space (a vaccum more specificaly), why would MJOLNIR even need the EVA.


Halo: The Fall of Reach.

Basic, default versions of Mark IV operate in space fine.

Basic, default versions of Mark V operate is space fine.

Halo 2

Basic, default version of Mark VI operate in space fine.

I'm sorry to say, ALL variants of MJOLNIR armor and helms will work in space. EVA is just specialized to work the best.


But you fail to realize that is that way in gameplay, and for good reason. Imagine if it made you buy or unlock the EVA just for that mission. It would be lousy, so they just pass it of as any armor works so that it wouldn't have to be changed just for that specific mission.

[Edited on 09.10.2011 8:18 PM PDT]

  • 09.10.2011 8:18 PM PDT

Allright, I just found what I was looking for...

Pressure Seal: The Pressure Seal is a vital component to the MJOLNIR system; it keeps the system airtight underwater or in space. The seal is very strong, only breaking under extreme pressure, such as in a high velocity impact or when the Hydrostatic Gel has been over pressurized.

It states that there is a pressurized seal in the suit. I wouldn't go gloating yet my friend, I do not believe that this can be accomplished without special equipment. Think about it, a water bottle can hold water without spilling, but only after having the cap attached.

The armor is the bottle and EVA equipment (specificaly, the EVA/PAA) is the cap for the bottle. Meaning that the Mark V or other varients are capable of being in a vacumm and keeping the user alive, but only after special equipment is attached to the suit (i.e. the EVA/PAA)

  • 09.10.2011 8:26 PM PDT

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