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Subject: Glasslands trilogy connects to H4 so perhaps UNSC/ex covies are in H4

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  • 09.08.2011 8:45 AM PDT
Subject: Glasslands trilogy connects to H4 so surely UNSC/ex covies are in H4

a little off topic: how do you FAIL from being a S-II cadidate, and not be dead? that or memories erased, either way...

[Edited on 09.08.2011 9:39 AM PDT]

  • 09.08.2011 9:38 AM PDT

I don't see how you jumped to that conclusion.

Halo CEA has ties to Halo 4, so does that mean 343 is going to be in there as well?

  • 09.08.2011 9:43 AM PDT

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Posted by: Dark Shinobi 93
a little off topic: how do you FAIL from being a S-II cadidate, and not be dead? that or memories erased, either way...

You can wash out if it's too hard. S-IIIs were trained by washouts and the washouts were extra hard on them out of jealousy.

  • 09.08.2011 2:28 PM PDT
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LOL what?

How can you jump to conclusions? Glasslands having some related contents with Halo 4 does not make it that UNSC/Covenant "magically" appear despite still suffering from the aftermath of Human-Covenant War.

And I already explained how it is illogical for UNSC or "non-existant Covenant" to appear at Halo 4 at other thread!

In other words, I doubt that UNSC/Covenant are at Halo 4. Maybe 5 or 6.

It's way too early for them to come back if it's set in 2560s. They can come back if ONLY it's SET IN 2600s.

[Edited on 09.08.2011 2:34 PM PDT]

  • 09.08.2011 2:34 PM PDT


Posted by: raganok99
Maybe 5 or 6.


Bad business move.

  • 09.08.2011 2:42 PM PDT


Posted by: BlueRuby2k10

Posted by: raganok99
Maybe 5 or 6.


Bad business move.


Because the UNSC = halo right? Nope.

This new trilogy is about the Master Chief, why does it need the UNSC?

  • 09.08.2011 2:59 PM PDT

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

Why is the idea of Forerunner allies and new enemies such a hard thing for people to grasp?

  • 09.08.2011 3:13 PM PDT

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If you read Halo evolutions there was a story about someone who had the augmentations but never got the MJOLNIR armor.


Soren failed the Augmentation process. His body was so physically deformed that he was unable to be fit with MJOLNIR. That's why he was never fully indited to becoming a SPARTAN-II.

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  • 09.08.2011 3:16 PM PDT


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Posted by: BlueRuby2k10

Posted by: raganok99
Maybe 5 or 6.


Bad business move.


Because the UNSC = halo right? Nope.

This new trilogy is about the Master Chief, why does it need the UNSC?


If the story is about the Master Chief, why does it need Cortana? Going with what you're believing, Cortana will play absolutely no role whatsoever. But from what 343 is saying about what they wish to do with Cortana, your argument becomes cough cough, invalid.

[Edited on 09.08.2011 3:27 PM PDT]

  • 09.08.2011 3:25 PM PDT


Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Why is the idea of Forerunner allies and new enemies such a hard thing for people to grasp?


It's not. They're just not going to be the only things in the game.

[Edited on 09.08.2011 3:26 PM PDT]

  • 09.08.2011 3:25 PM PDT

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

Posted by: BlueRuby2k10

Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Why is the idea of Forerunner allies and new enemies such a hard thing for people to grasp?


Because that's not what's going to happen.


I don't see why not. That concept art video you love so much shows a rather menacing looking machine in it. But do present a scenario where the UNSC or former Covenant species coincidentally stumbles upon this structure.

  • 09.08.2011 3:27 PM PDT


Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Posted by: BlueRuby2k10

Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Why is the idea of Forerunner allies and new enemies such a hard thing for people to grasp?


Because that's not what's going to happen.


I don't see why not. That concept art video you love so much shows a rather menacing looking machine in it. But do present a scenario where the UNSC or former Covenant species coincidentally stumbles upon this structure.


At least the Concept Art video has more merit than your silly Halo-record bible. The fact that the thing presented non-canon materials at first automatically calls the validity of its content into question.

You expect me to come up with a reason how they would get there when we don't know anything about the plot?
All we have are details about the game itself-- the fact that the Halo 4 Warthog-- confirmed by Frankie-- is the Halo 4 Warthog. And that the big wall of concept art images featured a big UNSC vessel.
Just stop, you're embarrassing yourself with your deluded and ignorant views.

[Edited on 09.08.2011 3:34 PM PDT]

  • 09.08.2011 3:33 PM PDT

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

Hey, make it post 2610 and I'm cool with it. Anything before then is far too soon. And really Ruby, all you're doing is insulting me for being a better fan than you. I understand what is canon and treat everything objectively. If it does not fit in the established canon thus far, I require an explanation.

If you can't do so, then it just says to me your theory is one that can't be supported with evidence. All you really have is concept art, I've got an encyclopedia.




[Edited on 09.08.2011 3:38 PM PDT]

  • 09.08.2011 3:38 PM PDT


Posted by: DecepticonCobra
And really Ruby, all you're doing is insulting me for being a better fan than you.


I refuse to read past this atrocious statement.

  • 09.08.2011 3:39 PM PDT

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

Well, you blindly accept everything at face value and you refuse to acknowledged the books as canon because you personally don't like them. You're in a CANON discussion forum, you can't do that if you want to be taken seriously.

  • 09.08.2011 3:41 PM PDT
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Posted by: BlueRuby2k10

Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Posted by: BlueRuby2k10

Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Why is the idea of Forerunner allies and new enemies such a hard thing for people to grasp?


Because that's not what's going to happen.


I don't see why not. That concept art video you love so much shows a rather menacing looking machine in it. But do present a scenario where the UNSC or former Covenant species coincidentally stumbles upon this structure.


At least the Concept Art video has more merit than your silly Halo-record bible. The fact that the thing presented non-canon materials at first automatically calls the validity of its content into question.

You expect me to come up with a reason how they would get there when we don't know anything about the plot?
All we have are details about the game itself-- the fact that the Halo 4 Warthog-- confirmed by Frankie-- is the Halo 4 Warthog. And that the big wall of concept art images featured a big UNSC vessel.
Just stop, you're embarrassing yourself with your deluded and ignorant views.


Son, I am disappoint.

Cobra is making a valid point while you are being only ignorant. Seems that you can't live without UNSC/Covenant. There is six Halo games to cater to. Go play those games.

And Halo 4 Warthog is just a graphic update and it is for Forza 4. Also, it'll be from FuD, not UNSC itself. Lrn2read, please.

And concept art is early build, it means that it is qualified to be cut down. Just like Bungie did with Forerunner things (Tanks, etc) in Halo 2.

Oh wait, Halo bible is master of canon, it overrides everything because it made Halo universe! You are seriously falling to a endless pit of deluded and ignorant views. Since with your ridiculous posts, we may be determined to label you as a troll or just not real Halo fan. Also whether you like or not, Books are CANON, period. End of story. You can't argue against books being canon.

Forerunners allies with new enemies at Halo 4 makes more sense than UNSC/Covenant being there. You ignored many reasons for UNSC/Covenant not being at Halo 4... Seems that you lack understanding of military history. A nation that just got out of war does not magically recover instantly. It takes time.

Oh no, you are embarrassing yourself with idiocy and ignorant views.

[Edited on 09.08.2011 3:51 PM PDT]

  • 09.08.2011 3:47 PM PDT


Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Well, you blindly accept everything at face value


It's called waiting until the damn game is out until deciding that 343 doesn't know what they're doing.

and you refuse to acknowledged the books as canon because you personally don't like them.

Haven't you heard me say that I do accept the books as canon? I only believe they shouldn't be used to tell the back story of the games. Different types of media shouldn't play off of each other like that, it only leads to confusion.

You're in a CANON discussion forum

I know. I want to discuss the canon. I care. I only present the necessary arguments about a game when one is being unreasonable.
This forum is for logical discussion, no? Well in that case, wouldn't it be illogical to only discuss story elements (when the topic requires more to be discussed), and form opinions of a game based only on that?
You're contradicting yourself in that a story does not make a game-- a Halo game, primarily. Gameplay does, and that's what matters most when a broad subject, like the quality of a game (Halo 4) is brought in question.

I rest my case.

  • 09.08.2011 3:49 PM PDT

Walk softly, and carry a big midget.

Since when was Glasslands part of a trilogy?

  • 09.08.2011 3:55 PM PDT

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

Posted by: BlueRuby2k10

It's called waiting until the damn game is out until deciding that 343 doesn't know what they're doing.


Yet you see the concept art and automatically assume it's all for Halo 4. For all we know, the UNSC Infinity cover art may be for the Karen Traviss series' next book, just like the Primoridum cover since it too was found in the Halo 4 concept art trailer.


Haven't you heard me say that I do accept the books as canon? I only believe they shouldn't be used to tell the back story of the games. Different types of media shouldn't play off of each other like that, it only leads to confusion.

Not really in Halo's case. Look at Halo 2 and Ghosts of Onyx. Delta Halo going on standby activates the Sentinels of Onyx. When 343 says the games and books will now connect, I presume we will get more Halo 2-GoO connections. Oh, the Mass Effect and the Gears of War novels would like to have a word with you on the "different media playing on each other causes confusion."

I know. I want to discuss the canon. I care. I only present the necessary arguments about a game when one is being unreasonable.

This forum is for logical discussion, no? Well in that case, wouldn't it be illogical to only discuss story elements (when the topic requires more to be discussed), and form opinions of a game based only on that?


And yet I find that hard to accept when you systematically call the Encyclopedia worthless when it presents canonical evidence against the UNSC or Covies appearing in Halo 4 right off the bat.

You're contradicting yourself in that a story does not make a game-- a Halo game, primarily. Gameplay does, and that's what matters most when a broad subject, like the quality of a game (Halo 4) is brought in question.

I rest my case.



And you assume without the UNSC or Covenant would lead to bad gameplay, which contradicts

It's called waiting until the damn game is out until deciding that 343 doesn't know what they're doing.

343 could easily create new factions that perform like if not better than past factions.

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Posted by: Jayster 94
Since when was Glasslands part of a trilogy?


It is not. However, they said it had some "hints" about Halo 4.

  • 09.08.2011 3:59 PM PDT

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Posted by: Dark Shinobi 93
a little off topic: how do you FAIL from being a S-II cadidate, and not be dead? that or memories erased, either way...

There were 75 candidates when the program started. Three years later, when John was made squad leader, there were 68. I find it hard to believe that seven (whoa just realized that) candidates died. They were probably unacceptable and released, possibly with modified memories or top secret agreements not to tell anyone.

[Edited on 09.08.2011 4:18 PM PDT]

  • 09.08.2011 4:18 PM PDT

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Unless the novel has a broken narrative then I do not see how not.

  • 09.08.2011 5:07 PM PDT

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