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Subject: Master Chief is Didact, Cortana is the Librarian

It wouldn't be a surprise if John 117, for some reason, goes back to the Forerunners time, at the time of the war against the flood. His character and Cortana's strongly resemble the accounts found on the terminals in Halo 3, and it would fit Halo 4 premise of "facing an ancient evil". BTW, I don't consider "The Forerunner Saga" to be canon.

  • 09.09.2011 3:07 PM PDT

By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

You're an utter idiot... Your whole post is a convoluted contradiction in itself.

  • 09.09.2011 3:12 PM PDT
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  • 09.09.2011 3:13 PM PDT

Corn, Oil, and Wine... We need more wine...

Everything... Unless explicitly stated otherwise, is canon.

  • 09.09.2011 3:13 PM PDT

Didn't they study John as a child...?

  • 09.09.2011 3:19 PM PDT

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Posted by: ajw34307
You're an utter idiot... Your whole post is a convoluted contradiction in itself.

No need to get offensive now...

Op may make a wild claim, but we must respect it...



[Edited on 09.09.2011 3:23 PM PDT]

  • 09.09.2011 3:22 PM PDT

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Posted by: Jule128
BTW, I don't consider "The Forerunner Saga" to be canon.

And? Do you expect that to make us take your idea seriously?

  • 09.09.2011 3:23 PM PDT

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Posted by: ajw34307
You're an utter idiot... Your whole post is a convoluted contradiction in itself.

  • 09.09.2011 3:23 PM PDT

I'm not saying he's Forerunner, I'm talking about the ending of Halo 3. Something could have gone wrong when the portal to Earth collapsed, sending him to the past. According to the terminals, Didact is the military leader, whereas the Librarian strove to index and save all sentient life throughout the galaxy; and they are "in love". Sounds like the Chief and Cortana.

  • 09.09.2011 3:23 PM PDT

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Posted by: ajw34307
You're an utter idiot... Your whole post is a convoluted contradiction in itself.

No need to get offensive now...

Op may make a wild claim, but we must respect it...


I don't respect idiocy. Respect has to be earned, and people on the internet seldom receive such a thing.

No, I shall respect the OP when he comes up with a legitimate source to support his claim and doesn't say stupid things liek "I don't see the Forerunner Trilogy as canon".

  • 09.09.2011 3:32 PM PDT


Posted by: ajw34307

Posted by: ferrrari

Posted by: ajw34307
You're an utter idiot... Your whole post is a convoluted contradiction in itself.

No need to get offensive now...

Op may make a wild claim, but we must respect it...


I don't respect idiocy. Respect has to be earned, and people on the internet seldom receive such a thing.

No, I shall respect the OP when he comes up with a legitimate source to support his claim and doesn't say stupid things liek "I don't see the Forerunner Trilogy as canon".


He prefers Bungie Canon over 343 canon. In other words, he view s all books but the 343 sponsored ones as canon, and all the bungie halo games as canon.

On the other hand, you oughta really respect him. It's impossible for any of us to respect you if you behave like this.

  • 09.09.2011 3:56 PM PDT

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I'm going to have to support ajw on this one...

It's just moronic to say, "I don't see the Forerunner Trilogy as canon." when it clearly is..

  • 09.09.2011 3:57 PM PDT

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Posted by: ajw34307
Posted by: ferrrari
Posted by: ajw34307
You're an utter idiot... Your whole post is a convoluted contradiction in itself.

No need to get offensive now...

Op may make a wild claim, but we must respect it...


I don't respect idiocy. Respect has to be earned, and people on the internet seldom receive such a thing.

No, I shall respect the OP when he comes up with a legitimate source to support his claim and doesn't say stupid things liek "I don't see the Forerunner Trilogy as canon".


He prefers Bungie Canon over 343 canon. In other words, he view s all books but the 343 sponsored ones as canon, and all the bungie halo games as canon.

On the other hand, you oughta really respect him. It's impossible for any of us to respect you if you behave like this.


There is no "Bungie canon" and "343 canon", IT'S ALL CANON material, there is no category of seperate canon because it's all based off the Halo Story Bible.

I don't expect you to respect me, in fact I don't really want you to respect me because you're nothing more than words on a page to me and thus not important in my life. I don't know you and never will, it's the magic of the internet.

  • 09.09.2011 4:00 PM PDT

Vengeance only leads to an ongoing cycle of hatred.

Respect is something you have to earn, like ajw already said.

But OT your point cannot, in the least bit, happen.

[Edited on 09.09.2011 4:05 PM PDT]

  • 09.09.2011 4:05 PM PDT

Why are you here?

Everything... Unless explicitly stated otherwise, is canon.

This

Why don't all these butthurt idiots want to except things as canon?!

  • 09.09.2011 4:10 PM PDT

if so ill be the first to try out that new combat skin.;D

  • 09.09.2011 4:13 PM PDT

By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.


Posted by: PISTOLSQUIRREL
Everything... Unless explicitly stated otherwise, is canon.

This

Why don't all these butthurt idiots want to except things as canon?!


Indeed. It seems that bias > common sense these days...

  • 09.09.2011 4:13 PM PDT

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Wait, if Cortana is the Librarian and the Chief is the Didact...how do they have kids when Cortana is an AI?

Oh wait...that's not possible because what happened(happens) in the Forerunner Trilogy is canon.

Silly me.

  • 09.09.2011 4:29 PM PDT
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Knowing everything and anything about Halo canon is obviously better than being an overall decent human being.

  • 09.09.2011 6:07 PM PDT

@accordingto343

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Knowing everything and anything about Halo canon is obviously better than being an overall decent human being.


I'm sorry, but that's so sappy and pathetic, I can't take it seriously.

  • 09.09.2011 6:10 PM PDT
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Posted by: Jule128
I'm not saying he's Forerunner, I'm talking about the ending of Halo 3. Something could have gone wrong when the portal to Earth collapsed, sending him to the past. According to the terminals, Didact is the military leader, whereas the Librarian strove to index and save all sentient life throughout the galaxy; and they are "in love". Sounds like the Chief and Cortana.



Seriously, are you kidding?



[Edited on 09.09.2011 6:20 PM PDT]

  • 09.09.2011 6:20 PM PDT

Didact's Reprisal -
Now is the time of our unworlding
One final effort is all that remains
And I am not afraid
We shall fulfill our promise
We fight for the grace of the Mantle
And this time none of you will be left behind

Since I don't like arguing things on their whole, I'll just pick a single point.

Cortana is essentially a copy of Halsey. The latter flash cloned her brain to make a smart AI (this is canon).

Any "love" Cortana feels would be the love Halsey feels, which would be the affection of a mother-hen figure. Cortana, being a copy of Halsey, may not fully understand her feelings or why she feels them. But that's all it is.

  • 09.09.2011 8:25 PM PDT
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It's only camping if I build a fire, otherwise it's just waiting.

The OP drew a few wishful thinking ideas together. At least he tried 2 dimensional thinking. I'm not going to dump on him for that.

After being burned by Lucas for so many years I don't trust canon. The creators can change it at will. Kind of like... Oh, I don't know... everything.

Besides, since H4 is being created by 343, I'm assuming they will be following their version of canon. Since Halo is technically a Microsoft Product (Hey, Bungie was young and they needed the money) then both Bungie product and 343 product would be canon. So, while the negative responders were jerks about it, they do have a point.

Btw, batteling their jerkitude just gives them further ability at a hijack. Let people express themselves and ignore the negative.

To the last poster. I never really considered Halsey to be "motherly" except for maybe John117. She sure as hell didn't show George any affectation in her responses to him. But, that was the video games. In the novels, where you can crawl into her head, she doesn't come across as cold as in the game (depending on the author). While I'm not in the, "they are in love" camp, Cortana has been out and about for so long she is possibly going rogue, with more independent personality traits. While based on Halsey, it doesn't make her Halsey.

  • 09.10.2011 3:26 AM PDT

Didact's Reprisal -
Now is the time of our unworlding
One final effort is all that remains
And I am not afraid
We shall fulfill our promise
We fight for the grace of the Mantle
And this time none of you will be left behind

Cortana is more than based off of Halsey, though. Cortana a copy of her brain.

Cortana's first words were an Italian proverb that Halsey was taught from her mother. This establishes that everything that makes Halsey Halsey is at least present subconsciously in Cortana. True, they start to become different right after the moment of creation, but it would be a mistake to underestimate the effect of Halsey's emotions on Cortana's behavior.

  • 09.10.2011 5:03 AM PDT

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