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Subject: Should we rename the classifieds forum?

In a time long past, the armies of the dark came again to the lands of men. Their leaders became known as the fallen lords, and their terrible sorcery was without equal in the west.
In 30 years they reduced the civilized nations into carrion and ash. Until the free city of Madrigal alone defined them. An army gathered there, and a desperate battle was joined against the fallen
Heros were born in the fire and bloodshed of the wars which followed and their names and deeds will never be forgotten

Classifieds definition- Classified advertising is a form of advertising which is particularly common in newspapers, online and other periodicals.

I understand that pretty clear, the forum is for advertising and recruitment. But sadly, many people do not understand that.

Particularly in this forum where every day we see anywhere from 2-10+ ads for clans. Often by people who do not A. understand where to go or B. know exactly they are in the wrong forum but choose to embrace ignorance.

It is evident that maybe some people need a little more help, as in we should name the classifieds forum the "Clan" forum or the Classifieds/Clan forum so that the people who do not understand the meaning of the word "classifieds" can see the word clan and make their little ads.

Thoughts?

  • 09.11.2011 8:02 AM PDT

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In a time long past, the armies of the dark came again to the lands of men. Their leaders became known as the fallen lords, and their terrible sorcery was without equal in the west.
In 30 years they reduced the civilized nations into carrion and ash. Until the free city of Madrigal alone defined them. An army gathered there, and a desperate battle was joined against the fallen
Heros were born in the fire and bloodshed of the wars which followed and their names and deeds will never be forgotten


Posted by: ArmourElite
No. Kill yourself.


Dude, that is really harsh.

But, why do you say no?

I see MANY people post group ads here, often more than Halo threads.

They must of seen all the forums in the drop down but for some reason, many people don't understand what "classifieds" mean, so, we should rename it or add like clan or something to it.

  • 09.11.2011 8:07 AM PDT
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Posted by: Cobravert
I just saw a green monkey nut shot a small tan lizard(?) in a gunny sack.

No.

  • 09.11.2011 8:09 AM PDT

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It's not just clans, groups advertise there too. Not all groups are clans, some are just social places.

You even put the definition of classifieds in the OP so you can see what it means and that it is correct, i'm not sure why you even bought this up.

  • 09.11.2011 8:13 AM PDT

I think it should stay the way it is. "The Classifieds" has a nice ring to it.

  • 09.11.2011 8:13 AM PDT

In a time long past, the armies of the dark came again to the lands of men. Their leaders became known as the fallen lords, and their terrible sorcery was without equal in the west.
In 30 years they reduced the civilized nations into carrion and ash. Until the free city of Madrigal alone defined them. An army gathered there, and a desperate battle was joined against the fallen
Heros were born in the fire and bloodshed of the wars which followed and their names and deeds will never be forgotten


Posted by: ian1706
It's not just clans, groups advertise there too. Not all groups are clans, some are just social places.

You even put the definition of classifieds in the OP so you can see what it means and that it is correct, i'm not sure why you even bought this up.


becuase I am noticing a recurring pattern of people posting their ads here.

But, it is not getting better either, they just keep posting it.

So, my assumption is they don't know what the word classifieds means, but even a new member should easily be able to figure out which forum to go to especially with the forum drop box.

  • 09.11.2011 8:16 AM PDT
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For one thing, the classfieds is not only for group advertisements, and changing the name would probably just add more confusion for people who want to advertise something else. Not to mention the fact that just the briefest look at the rules leads you to a page called "Where should my post go?" If people can't take a few seconds to figure that out, I doubt changing the name will do anything.

Finally, you've basically misinterpreted the problem in most cases. People know they should post in the classifieds, they just either don't care or they think somehow the rules don't apply to them because they need more users.

P.S. Of course I left out the part where (in America at least), "Classifieds" literally means "Page of Advertisements".

[Edited on 09.11.2011 8:19 AM PDT]

  • 09.11.2011 8:17 AM PDT

In a time long past, the armies of the dark came again to the lands of men. Their leaders became known as the fallen lords, and their terrible sorcery was without equal in the west.
In 30 years they reduced the civilized nations into carrion and ash. Until the free city of Madrigal alone defined them. An army gathered there, and a desperate battle was joined against the fallen
Heros were born in the fire and bloodshed of the wars which followed and their names and deeds will never be forgotten


Posted by: aku
For one thing, the classfieds is not only for group advertisements, and changing the name would probably just add more confusion for people who want to advertise something else. Not to mention the fact that just the briefest look at the rules leads you to a page called "Where should my post go?" If people can't take a few seconds to figure that out, I doubt changing the name will do anything.

Finally, you've basically misinterpreted the problem in most cases. People know they should post in the classifieds, they just either don't care or they think somehow the rules don't apply to them because they need more users.


Well if they know they shouldn't post here, they should be banned.

I got a 7 day ban for posting a forum in the wrong area, I think it should start making posting ads here bannable so maybe they will learn.

  • 09.11.2011 8:20 AM PDT

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Posted by: spartain ken 15
So, my assumption is they don't know what the word classifieds means, but even a new member should easily be able to figure out which forum to go to especially with the forum drop box.
Most people understand what the word classifieds means. They choose to ignore it most of the time and post where they like because they don't feel that forum gets enough attention. It is ignorance not stupidity.

Of course, there is the occasional case where someone does it by accident though, it's understandable.

Look how many Reach threads we get that aren't in the Reach forum though. Shall we rename it with capital letters so that it's easier to see in the drop down? No. People just need to learn how to use forums properly.

  • 09.11.2011 8:24 AM PDT

In a time long past, the armies of the dark came again to the lands of men. Their leaders became known as the fallen lords, and their terrible sorcery was without equal in the west.
In 30 years they reduced the civilized nations into carrion and ash. Until the free city of Madrigal alone defined them. An army gathered there, and a desperate battle was joined against the fallen
Heros were born in the fire and bloodshed of the wars which followed and their names and deeds will never be forgotten

What is the best course of action?

More bans?

Becuase if it is in fact 99% ignorance, they should be punished.

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Posted by: spartain ken 15
So, my assumption is they don't know what the word classifieds means, but even a new member should easily be able to figure out which forum to go to especially with the forum drop box.
Most people understand what the word classifieds means. They choose to ignore it most of the time and post where they like because they don't feel that forum gets enough attention. It is ignorance not stupidity.

Of course, there is the occasional case where someone does it by accident though, it's understandable.

Look how many Reach threads we get that aren't in the Reach forum though. Shall we rename it with capital letters so that it's easier to see in the drop down? No. People just need to learn how to use forums properly.

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It's fine.

  • 09.11.2011 8:31 AM PDT

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Terrible Idea. Why are you always trying to change things that are not broken? Its been that way for years.

And you get banned all the time for being ignorant of the rules.

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  • 09.11.2011 8:32 AM PDT

In a time long past, the armies of the dark came again to the lands of men. Their leaders became known as the fallen lords, and their terrible sorcery was without equal in the west.
In 30 years they reduced the civilized nations into carrion and ash. Until the free city of Madrigal alone defined them. An army gathered there, and a desperate battle was joined against the fallen
Heros were born in the fire and bloodshed of the wars which followed and their names and deeds will never be forgotten


Posted by: EAGLES5
Terrible Idea. Why are you always trying to change things that are not broken? Its been that way for years.


This is just a discussion.

I am trying to understand what compels so many users to break the same rule everyday.

Is it ignorance, do they simply don't know what classifieds mean?

  • 09.11.2011 8:34 AM PDT
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Just because some people are ignorant with forums here doesn't mean they should be banned. They just need to learn where stuff goes. Some people are new to b.net and don't know how the site works. This is where we should take the opportunity to teach them how the site works not ban them for posting in the wrong forum. The classifieds should stay the way it is. There is no reason to change it. It is named properly which, clearly describes its purpose.

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Posted by: EAGLES5
Terrible Idea. Why are you always trying to change things that are not broken? Its been that way for years.

And you get banned all the time for being ignorant of the rules.

lol harsh, but true.

  • 09.11.2011 8:36 AM PDT

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Disagree.

The Classifieds is a perfect name for that forum. If people post off topic, we'll handle it; usually with a warning because once people get the message, they correct their ways. If they continue to break the rule, then they get smacked a little harder because often times it's due to them disregarding the rules.

Also, you should not treat your experiences as a guide on how everyone should be treated. Lots of different factors are used when determining how an offense should be dealt with, ban history included (as I already said).

Posted by: spartain ken 15
I got a 7 day ban for posting a forum in the wrong area, I think it should start making posting ads here bannable so maybe they will learn.

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Posted by: Cobravert
I just saw a green monkey nut shot a small tan lizard(?) in a gunny sack.

Ken, I don't know what Community forum you're using, but I rarely see group advertisements in the Septagon, so you're main basis for this 'discussion' is invalid. Once again, silly idea, no basis for it other than a purely cosmetic change.

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Posted by: chubbz
Ken, I don't know what Community forum you're using, but I rarely see group advertisements in the Septagon, so you're main basis for this 'discussion' is invalid. Once again, silly idea, no basis for it other than a purely cosmetic change.

>1 group thread in septagon
>OH GOD SO MANY GROUPS WE MUST STOP THIS NOW!

  • 09.11.2011 9:07 AM PDT

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We? There is no "we", there is only "they", or "them". We can not rename forums, only Bungie can rename the forums if "they" so choose.

But no, I like the format of the classified forum.

  • 09.11.2011 9:15 AM PDT

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No. It's fine. Calling it the "clan" forum would be ridiculously stupid in my opinion. Its equally about looking for an Arena or Team Slayer team as it is looking for clans.

  • 09.11.2011 9:16 AM PDT

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