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Subject: Why didn't the Covenant take prisoners?

Since the Prophets knew only the Humans could use Forerunner technologies, why did they only rarely take Human prisoners? If they ever stumbled upon a ring, It would save so much time if the ship that found it had a human prisoner so they could get on with the activation, wouldn't you think?

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Posted by: zash208
Humans are impure. They needed to be cleansed.
Sure, they ordered all Humans to be killed, but with that done, how would they have activated the rings?

  • 09.12.2011 5:12 PM PDT

Because Humans show up as living, moving artifacts and the Prophets didn't want to risk the rest of the Covenant finding out.

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Posted by: zash208
Humans are impure. They needed to be cleansed.
Sure, they ordered all Humans to be killed, but with that done, how would they have activated the rings?

Covies dont think that far ahead

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Because Humans show up as living, moving artifacts and the Prophets didn't want to risk the rest of the Covenant finding out.

They modified the luminaries and killed anyone who didn't allow the changes to be made. No one would have found out who hadn't been told already.

And the Covenant DID take prisoners. Just not very many. Essentially, they took enough to activate the rings/other Forerunner artifacts, and no more than that.

[Edited on 09.12.2011 5:33 PM PDT]

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Posted by: OniLink147
Because Humans show up as living, moving artifacts and the Prophets didn't want to risk the rest of the Covenant finding out.

They modified the luminaries and killed anyone who didn't allow the changes to be made. No one would have found out who hadn't been told already.

And the Covenant DID take prisoners. Just not very many. Essentially, they took enough to activate the rings/other Forerunner artifacts, and no more than that.


Then I don't understand why Truth didn't steal a Marine while he was on Earth to activate the Ark.

  • 09.12.2011 7:36 PM PDT

If the games are any indication then the Covenant take prisoners all the time, who can say how long they survive being imprisoned, but I think they're taken captive quite often, especially when Forerunner Relics are involved in the matter.
I think the people in the books saying that the Covenant take prisoners are probably either misinformed or just assume that the Covenant butcher everybody because nobody ever comes back from being captured.

  • 09.12.2011 8:00 PM PDT

Some say that you cant do all that, Id like to see them prove me wrong.

Because, the Ark was already on standby after the halo 2 incident. All he wouldve had to do was activate the ark, im guessing, using some form of key. No human interaction would have needed to take place for him to activate it. As long as a human had interaction and had claimed the key, as well as found the control center for the ring, then the standby for the Ark would have been activated. Why would he need a human for that.

  • 09.12.2011 8:36 PM PDT

Only 3 covenant knew the truth, and they sure as hell did not want to tell the rest of them.



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Posted by: zash208
Humans are impure. They needed to be cleansed.
Sure, they ordered all Humans to be killed, but with that done, how would they have activated the rings?

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Posted by: mojeda101

Posted by: zash208
Humans are impure. They needed to be cleansed.
Sure, they ordered all Humans to be killed, but with that done, how would they have activated the rings?
They only needed one human, not 4 billion. Plus, I'm not sure if the elites, grunts, jackals, brutes, and hunters knew that humans had the power to activate forerunner artifacts.

  • 09.12.2011 9:18 PM PDT


Posted by: Xazutin
Because, the Ark was already on standby after the halo 2 incident. All he wouldve had to do was activate the ark, im guessing, using some form of key. No human interaction would have needed to take place for him to activate it. As long as a human had interaction and had claimed the key, as well as found the control center for the ring, then the standby for the Ark would have been activated. Why would he need a human for that.
He DID need a Human, why do you think he had Johnson captive? Did you not play Halo 3?

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As indicated above, the Covies took prisoners more often than we give them credit for.

Anders to activate the Shield World Armada
Miranda to Activate Installation 05
Johnson to activate the Ark
Prisoners on Truth and Reconciliation
Prisoners in High Charity
I guess you can count Guilty Spark, to shake him down for intel.

Hostages/ POWs make sense in an all-out total war scenario. Although, if I were in the UNSC, I'd recommend that all soldiers be given cyanide pills in order to keep themselves from being used to activate Forerunner tech. Kinda makes sense to me.

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Posted by: GhostLink2401
As indicated above, the Covies took prisoners more often than we give them credit for.

Anders to activate the Shield World Armada
Miranda to Activate Installation 05
Johnson to activate the Ark
Prisoners on Truth and Reconciliation
Prisoners in High Charity
I guess you can count Guilty Spark, to shake him down for intel.

Hostages/ POWs make sense in an all-out total war scenario. Although, if I were in the UNSC, I'd recommend that all soldiers be given cyanide pills in order to keep themselves from being used to activate Forerunner tech. Kinda makes sense to me.

this, they did take prisoners but only a small amount of them... I also couldnt imagine elites/brutes taking prisoners unless specifically ordered by a prophet to

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I believe the Covenant ideology prevented them to take war prisoners for any reason, unless directly ordered from one of their political/religious elites.

However as mentioned above the Covenant in power avoid taking prisoners unless they need them for their own dark plots.

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They also held Ackerson on one of their crusers, becuse og the "forunner relic" key "they needed to avoid halo failing again.

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Actually the covenant has taken prisoners. Dr Anders in Halo Wars and Sgt Johnson in Halo 3

  • 09.13.2011 8:06 AM PDT

Walk by faith. Dude. Not by sight.

Brutes use prisoners as food sources.

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Posted by: NicodemusTNT
Brutes use prisoners as food sources.

Also, Elites take prisoners, or rather stray solitary survivors, for sport and execution purposes.

  • 09.13.2011 8:24 AM PDT

They did take prisoners,but they needed to find the ark to activate the rings. That took them halo1-halo3 to do.

  • 09.13.2011 8:53 AM PDT

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keyes was taken prisoner, and so were sevaral other marines in halo 2.

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Posted by: zash208
Humans are impure. They needed to be cleansed.


Apart from this, the Prophets knew that no human could be brought into Covenant territory to be used for whatever means without making the Luminaries start going crazy, tracking the human.

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Galactic genocide, not exactly the prisoner taking type of war. Of course they did take SOME prisoners, but for the most part they did not take prisoners.

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