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Subject: Is responding to spam against the rules?

I know it used to be, but I can't see it mentioned in the "new" rules anymore.

  • 09.13.2011 12:35 PM PDT
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Posted by: bobcast
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  • 09.13.2011 12:36 PM PDT
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People saying yes, mind pointing it out in the rules?
I can't seem to find it myself but I might not be looking hard enough.

  • 09.13.2011 12:38 PM PDT

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I'm fairly certain that's still true. I think the "don't reply to spam" rule went to the "use common sense" rule.

  • 09.13.2011 12:38 PM PDT

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Posted by: Big Black Bear
I know it used to be, but I can't see it mentioned in the "new" rules anymore.


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  • 09.13.2011 12:42 PM PDT

Let it go.


Posted by: Big Black Bear
I know it used to be, but I can't see it mentioned in the "new" rules anymore.


For your sake, I hope not. Why? Because, "What are we supposed to be discussing here?" would get you in some hot water. ;p

  • 09.13.2011 12:47 PM PDT

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I, too, can find no mention of it in the rules or in the HFCS FAQ.

I believe that it could either count as "bumping" the spam thread up, or as "spam" itself, but no where (that I can find) does it explicitly state this.

  • 09.13.2011 12:47 PM PDT

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"new" rules are kinda vague, just gives mods more freedom to do whatever they want, whenever they want...

its all up to the "mod discretion"

  • 09.13.2011 12:50 PM PDT

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I respond to plenty of spam posts and not even a warning was sent to me. So I would say no?

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Posted by: Kickimanjaro
I, too, can find no mention of it in the rules or in the HFCS FAQ.

I believe that it could either count as "bumping" the spam thread up, or as "spam" itself, but no where (that I can find) does it explicitly state this.

Though, bumping was defined as replying with the SOLE intention of bringing it to the top. A blissfully ignorant response to whatever spam topic there was wouldn't fall under this definition.

  • 09.13.2011 12:51 PM PDT

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Responding to spam = creating more spam.

  • 09.13.2011 12:57 PM PDT

Responding to spam is spam.

  • 09.13.2011 12:59 PM PDT

I spend too much time here.. too much time indeed.

I tweet?

More should have come to this conclusion. Replying to spam is spam which would make it bannable under the anti-spam rule if nothing else.
Posted by: spawn031
Responding to spam = creating more spam.

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Posted by: bobcast
I hate you unless I'm drunk.

Replying to spam, IS spam.

It falls under the 'No spam' rule.
Posted by: ZYTHON
People saying yes, mind pointing it out in the rules?
I can't seem to find it myself but I might not be looking hard enough.

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(Devils advocate here obviously)
Nowhere in the rules does it say that replying to spam is spam. You're mind is still in the old rules.
Posted by: ImTriForceGuy
Replying to spam, IS spam.

It falls under the 'No spam' rule.
Posted by: ZYTHON
People saying yes, mind pointing it out in the rules?
I can't seem to find it myself but I might not be looking hard enough.

  • 09.13.2011 1:08 PM PDT

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Posted by: bobcast
I hate you unless I'm drunk.

It shouldn't have to say its spam, its the definition of spam.

Someone creates a spam post, which should be locked. ANY reply to said thread, therefore, doesn't belong. Which, is spam.
Not to mention is bumps a thread, that should be locked.

I honestly don't understand why this isn't common knowledge.

We don't need a rule for every single thing that people think or don't think is spam. Use common sense.
Posted by: ZYTHON
(Devils advocate here obviously)
Nowhere in the rules does it say that replying to spam is spam. You're mind is still in the old rules.
Posted by: ImTriForceGuy
Replying to spam, IS spam.

It falls under the 'No spam' rule.
Posted by: ZYTHON
People saying yes, mind pointing it out in the rules?
I can't seem to find it myself but I might not be looking hard enough.

  • 09.13.2011 1:09 PM PDT

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Posted by: ZYTHON
Posted by: Kickimanjaro
I, too, can find no mention of it in the rules or in the HFCS FAQ.

I believe that it could either count as "bumping" the spam thread up, or as "spam" itself, but no where (that I can find) does it explicitly state this.

Though, bumping was defined as replying with the SOLE intention of bringing it to the top. A blissfully ignorant response to whatever spam topic there was wouldn't fall under this definition.

I understand that, I was simply saying that either the "spam" rule or the "bumping" rule could have something added to include this. For example, if we were to add a line to the rule against "bumping" it could be this:
Replying to a thread that is already defined as "spam" (as per the rule on "spam") is considered bumping as it makes the spam thread feature more prominently on the forum.
Or if we were to add a line to the rule against "spam" it could be this:
Note that replying to a thread that already fits the description of spam will, itself, be considered spam.

EDIT: To add to this, what the others above have already mentioned "replying to spam is spam" is something I believe however it does not state this in the rules. Now, this could be a good thing because the new rules are designed to give moderators more room to interpret them (that's how I understand the new rules at least).

So take this example, a foreigner posts on the forums in a language other than English. I would assume that because they've navigated all the way through making an account and posting a thread that they would understand English, and I would be lead to reply stating that threads should be in English only. I may also reply in the language the poster used to explain this, and then chuckle at my own hypocrisy.

The counter argument to my example would be that we are in no position to tell the user that, and that a moderator should instead lock the thread and PM an explanation (or, issue a warning and explain there).

/ramblings

[Edited on 09.13.2011 1:16 PM PDT]

  • 09.13.2011 1:10 PM PDT
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Posted by: bobcast
I hate you unless I'm drunk.

As I said in the post above this, we shouldn't need to add that.

Use common sense. Its not that hard to understand. The thread is spam, ignore it.
Doesn't matter what 'rule' it falls under, just know to not do it.
Posted by: Kickimanjaro

Posted by: ZYTHON
Posted by: Kickimanjaro
I, too, can find no mention of it in the rules or in the HFCS FAQ.

I believe that it could either count as "bumping" the spam thread up, or as "spam" itself, but no where (that I can find) does it explicitly state this.

Though, bumping was defined as replying with the SOLE intention of bringing it to the top. A blissfully ignorant response to whatever spam topic there was wouldn't fall under this definition.

I understand that, I was simply saying that either the "spam" rule or the "bumping" rule could have something added to include this. For example, if we were to add a line to the rule against "bumping" it could be this:
Replying to a thread that is already defined as "spam" (as per the rule on "spam") is considered bumping as it makes the spam thread feature more prominently on the forum.
Or if we were to add a line to the rule against "spam" it could be this:
Note that replying to a thread that already fits the description of spam will, itself, be considered spam.

  • 09.13.2011 1:12 PM PDT
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SPOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON!

Yes.

While it does not seem to be explicitly mentioned in the rules anymore, you can still be banned for it.

I was banned for replying to spam around Christmas.

  • 09.13.2011 1:15 PM PDT

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- Dawes, A little bit of everything


Posted by: ImTriForceGuy
As I said in the post above this, we shouldn't need to add that.

Use common sense. Its not that hard to understand. The thread is spam, ignore it.
Doesn't matter what 'rule' it falls under, just know to not do it.
Posted by: Kickimanjaro

Posted by: ZYTHON
Posted by: Kickimanjaro
I, too, can find no mention of it in the rules or in the HFCS FAQ.

I believe that it could either count as "bumping" the spam thread up, or as "spam" itself, but no where (that I can find) does it explicitly state this.

Though, bumping was defined as replying with the SOLE intention of bringing it to the top. A blissfully ignorant response to whatever spam topic there was wouldn't fall under this definition.

I understand that, I was simply saying that either the "spam" rule or the "bumping" rule could have something added to include this. For example, if we were to add a line to the rule against "bumping" it could be this:
Replying to a thread that is already defined as "spam" (as per the rule on "spam") is considered bumping as it makes the spam thread feature more prominently on the forum.
Or if we were to add a line to the rule against "spam" it could be this:
Note that replying to a thread that already fits the description of spam will, itself, be considered spam.

Yes, sorry, after I posted that I noticed what you all had said and added more to that post. In retrospect I probably should have just posted again, but at the time that would have been a double post.

  • 09.13.2011 1:17 PM PDT
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Posted by: bobcast
I hate you unless I'm drunk.

In the example you listed you could do a few things, none of them include replying.

Send the OP a PM, report the post even so a moderator can take care of it.

Replying to it, even trying to be helpful, is still spam.

Take into account that you're not the only person whos going to see that thread, and by the time you reply at 3 other people are going to say the same thing, with another 3 people replying to say the same thing after you.

And just because you report it, doesn't mean the OP would get banned, or even warned.

We don't need rules outlying what is 'spam' and what isn't. Just be smart about what you post.

The best practice would be, 'If you're not sure if its against the rules, its best to not post it'.
The rules are pretty simple, and not hard to follow.
Its just the mindset of the forums.

  • 09.13.2011 1:26 PM PDT

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I'm pretty sure its looked down upon, something you shouldn't do.

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Posted by: bobcast
I hate you unless I'm drunk.

Its like when you're caught by your parents eating the cookies before dinner.

You know you shouldn't be doing it, but you do it anyway.

And when they confront you and say, 'Did I tell you that you could eat the cookies?'
And you reply, 'Well, you never said I couldn't eat the cookies'

You should've known better, and you DID know better, but you still did it.

Don't steal the cookies from the cookie jar.

  • 09.13.2011 1:43 PM PDT

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