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Subject: Titles: The Dark Truth That Decides the Recognition of a Post

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Making jokes here has gotten old...

  • 09.14.2011 10:39 PM PDT

"We live in a special time; the only time where we can observationally verify that we live in a very special time" - Lawrence Krauss.

I was a finalist :P

This thread goes to show how many people don't comprehensively read a long initial post. I love coming back here to read people's comments.

  • 09.14.2011 11:06 PM PDT
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>> Reads OP
>> Remembers I'm a regular member
>> Walks away depressed.

Perhaps an option to toggle the titles, or a reverse of the current system would work well.

Toggling it would be coup, while the reverse works as such:

When you make a Bnet account, you have a prefixed title like "newcomer" or such. The only way to get out would be to fulfil certain requirements like "X post counts" or "no bans in X days while active".

Eventually, instead of reaching Mythic or Legendary in 5 years, It would take about a month (continously active) to get a standardized title "member".

That being said, "member" would be the final "tier", with exceptions like "Forum Ninja", "Bungie Employee" and "Webcam MVP" titles staying.

And please do not take this too seriously.

[Edited on 09.14.2011 11:09 PM PDT]

  • 09.14.2011 11:09 PM PDT

*scratches nuts*

Should just blanket ban the entire community and be done with it.

  • 09.14.2011 11:25 PM PDT
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Posted by: Old Papa Rich
Suffice to say that sometime, a moderator is going to end this account permenantly.


Posted by: Poy Poy
>> Reads OP
>> Remembers I'm a regular member
>> Walks away depressed.
Wat.

  • 09.14.2011 11:42 PM PDT
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Posted by: Old Papa Rich
Suffice to say that sometime, a moderator is going to end this account permenantly.

This thread. It's so good.

  • 09.15.2011 12:02 AM PDT

Get over yourself - drink vodka!

How about titles, as presented in a thread, are hidden to a user until he posts in the thread?

  • 09.15.2011 12:40 AM PDT

cockburnicus@live.com
New Flood

Posted by: Poy Poy
>> Reads OP

Liar.

  • 09.15.2011 1:37 AM PDT

We believe that the universe is unbounded: this is not the same as infinite: the 2-D surface of a sphere, wrapped around a 3rd dimension, has a finite size, but has no end. If you start off in a given direction on the surface of a sphere, you could return to your start point without having to turn around -- you simply go all the way around. But wouldn't that mean the universe has an escape velocity like the earth?


Posted by: Cockburnicus
Posted by: Poy Poy
>> Reads OP

Liar.


The cake is a lie. The OP also has a point, even my last statement is false and the statement I just said was also true.

~B2

  • 09.15.2011 2:49 AM PDT

GROSSMAN: Do you think of the Culture as a utopia? Would you live in it, if you could?

BANKS: Good grief yes, to both! What's not to like? ...Well, unless you're actually a fascist or a power junkie or sincerely believe that money rather than happiness is what really matters in life. And even people with those bizarre beliefs are catered for in the Culture, albeit in extreme-immersion VR environments.

KOTOR

I read the OP, and I think Titles should be removed, as everyone then has an equal chance of getting their posts read and responded to.

ITT, people who skim read or don't read the entire OP in full. Also a lot of smart people laughing.

  • 09.15.2011 4:43 AM PDT

People don't read the OP due to his title bar? I think not




Posted by: Orphius_Rex
I read the OP, and I think Titles should be removed, as everyone then has an equal chance of getting their posts read and responded to.

ITT, people who skim read or don't read the entire OP in full. Also a lot of smart people laughing.


[Edited on 09.15.2011 5:52 AM PDT]

  • 09.15.2011 5:52 AM PDT
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The End

‘The conscious is cancerous if allowed to linger’

"Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there."

People still take Duck's posts at face value?!

  • 09.15.2011 6:27 AM PDT
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Posted by: dahuterschuter
Then we'd also have to take away usernames if we want to get rid of posting prejudice, as well as making join date invisible. That'd go further to remove any bias there may be than a title removal.


Glad someone beat me to it. If you remove titles, all that's going to do is force people to remember user names instead of user names/color of bar. Once you remove user names you might be able to get rid of this "problem".

  • 09.15.2011 6:29 AM PDT

You are incorrectly using cause effect analysis. Being a higher member does not "cause" a thread to be responded to more. However, there is a correlation between member title and post replies. However, the underlying cause is unknown and impossible to calculate. Some of other influences could be...
-members with higher titles tend to post more interesting threads
-they also might stay more involved in their post preventing it from being lost to the black hole of page 2.
-people like the color blue
-I could go on and on

Simply stating that member titles should be taken away because they cause bias towards recognizing member titles is a ridiculous claim.

  • 09.15.2011 6:29 AM PDT

I spend too much time here.. too much time indeed.

I tweet?

Can you believe it? 9 pages and there are still people who just don't get it.
Posted by: Tom T
People still take Duck's posts at face value?!

  • 09.15.2011 8:21 AM PDT
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Posted by: Rhea
Canada isn't that important that it needs two of the same threads on page one.

A good percentage of users use coup. Rarely do I see a Title dictate someone's post.

[Edited on 09.15.2011 8:39 AM PDT]

  • 09.15.2011 8:30 AM PDT
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I think the OP should take some of his own medicine and have his title removed.

  • 09.15.2011 8:35 AM PDT

“Oh, it’s a little bit of everything, it’s the mountains, it’s the fog, it’s the news at six o’clock, it’s the death of my first dog, it’s the angels up above me, it’s the song that they don’t sing, It’s a little bit of everything.”
- Dawes, A little bit of everything


Posted by: Skibur
I think the OP should take some of his own medicine and have his title removed.

But then his post wouldn't be worth reading, and that would make this whole thread futile.

  • 09.15.2011 8:38 AM PDT

Riverside23: For all the women of the group, if you've got a real man at least let him have his big piece of chicken.

WhtButterflyLiz: lol. Bring home bigger chikkinz, then, real man!!!

DEATHPIMP72: *throws pterodactyl on table*
Suck it JoeSki!!!

....but I like my blue bar :(

  • 09.15.2011 9:26 AM PDT

When I grow up I want to be bitter and spiteful.

"i liked the reality where everything was on fire better"
-legato on remedial chaos theory

Posted by: longhorn10
....but I like my blue bar :(
I don't see how that has anything to do with this.

Posted by: SRQ baller24
You are incorrectly using cause effect analysis. Being a higher member does not "cause" a thread to be responded to more. However, there is a correlation between member title and post replies. However, the underlying cause is unknown and impossible to calculate. Some of other influences could be...
My calculations are correct. I cannot err.

-members with higher titles tend to post more interesting threadsNo.
-they also might stay more involved in their post preventing it from being lost to the black hole of page 2.No.
-people like the color blueTrue.
-I could go on and onBut it wouldn't stop you from being wrong!

Simply stating that member titles should be taken away because they cause bias towards recognizing member titles is a ridiculous claim.Ridiculously true!


Posted by: Chaozhound
I only see this happening with people commenting on something a Ninja or employee says, not really ranked members.

People making threads about it are just making it a bigger deal than it really is.
It is a tremendous issue to which we should allocate all resources. I can understand how an employee would alter this effect, but how would a ninja?


Posted by: CrazzySnipe55
Anyone who bases the legitimacy of someone's post based on the poster's title is ignorant unless the poster is a Ninja
WRONG
... and the topic discussed is the rules or if the poster is Urk or Achronos and the discussion is Bungie or the Site (respectively).Someone clearly hasn't seen Bungie employees delete certain threads.


Posted by: CrazzySnipe55
Posted by: Duck duck DEATH
Posted by: blade246
Okay, okay. I am SO confused! Are the titles being removed or what?
As it stands, this thread is merely a proposal. A proposal of truth and hope! May its guiding light pave the future!
If titles got removed, that would suck sooo hard. Titles show some reward of sorts for your posting besides the actual experience, encourages productive posts, and shows how long certain people have been here.

We shouldn't remove them because some people are ignorant and treat them like ranks.
Titles don't reward anything or indicate age. How do you even reach this conclusion?! Also, I'm sure you would agree, ignorance is bliss.

There are VERY few situations where I would value the testimony or account of a Mythic member over that of a regular member.How is that, in any way, relevant to this thread? Grr!


Posted by: Deathcon 5
A quiz could be added before one is allowed to post, making sure commenters read the entire OP. This would enhance OP's idea.
Tests are no fun!


Posted by: Reptilian Rob
Posted by: evilcam
Posted by: Skibur
Oh boy... We should remove the reply button until we're sure people have read and comprehended the OP.

IF we did that, it would remove 100% of the entertainment I'm getting from this thread, and about 80% of the entertainment I get from all the other boards here.

Suffice it to say, I'd rather not try that Ski.

If we did that we'd remove the ability for the corrupt moderation team to defend their ridiculous side on this matter.

Which are 110% more entertaining than the member posts.
Where are you guys getting these numbers?


Posted by: dibbs089
I personally find the words within threads to be far more misleading and biased than the titles themselves (oh the curse of literacy!). After all they can be used to express opinions or even cleverly employed to obfuscate the true message of what is being said with chum designed to whip the plebeians into a frothy fervor.

I propose we do away with words via a scrambler before we tackle titles.

ahwt ulcdo isbopsyl eb lmigsenadi ro sidbae batuo htta?^^What could possibly be misleading or biased about that?
The scrambler could be biased.

Posted by: Poy Poy
>> Reads OP
>> Remembers I'm a regular member
>> Walks away depressed.
Opening with a bluff is pretty bold.

Posted by: General Noobus
Should just blanket ban the entire community and be done with it.
I would support this.


Posted by: ClanNovusLead
>implying British people speak exclusively like they're "all that"

He did talk normally, you're obviously just over sensitive.

i just hate it and i have had some britains talk exactly like that i meant no offense to duck but i would politely ask it to stop
I can't stop being not British.


Posted by: erac2detsaw2
Posted by: dahuterschuter
Then we'd also have to take away usernames if we want to get rid of posting prejudice, as well as making join date invisible. That'd go further to remove any bias there may be than a title removal.

Glad someone beat me to it. If you remove titles, all that's going to do is force people to remember user names instead of user names/color of bar. Once you remove user names you might be able to get rid of this "problem".
I don't think people associate threads with bar color.

Posted by: Tom T
People still take Duck's posts at face value?!
My face has boundless value.

Posted by: Niko Jims
A good percentage of users use coup. Rarely do I see a Title dictate someone's post.
Coup doesn't solve this problem. Coup is completely useless in this regard.

  • 09.15.2011 9:27 AM PDT
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Positive vibes.

You do realize that you might get caught up in that magical blanket, considering you just posted in this thread?

Posted by: General Noobus
Should just blanket ban the entire community and be done with it.

  • 09.15.2011 9:30 AM PDT

I spend too much time here.. too much time indeed.

I tweet?

Do you realize that he meant the ENTIRE community? As in every last one of us?
Posted by: a rascal cat
You do realize that you might get caught up in that magical blanket, considering you just posted in this thread?

Posted by: General Noobus
Should just blanket ban the entire community and be done with it.

  • 09.15.2011 10:00 AM PDT

Hi I'm RT and I like to argue!

Posted by: Duck duck DEATH
However, throughout my entire Bungie.net experience, I have observed an tendency that virtually every user follows.

. . .

What I am discussing is a users' habit to respond to a post based solely on title.
Titles haven't been in existence during your "entire Bungie.net experience" so your whole premise is flawed from the start.

And yeah people want to read posts by people who are more likely to know what they're talking about. That has nothing to do with titles and everything to do with discerning good information from bad.

  • 09.15.2011 11:41 AM PDT

When I grow up I want to be bitter and spiteful.

"i liked the reality where everything was on fire better"
-legato on remedial chaos theory

Posted by: RighteousTyrant
Posted by: Duck duck DEATH
However, throughout my entire Bungie.net experience, I have observed an tendency that virtually every user follows.

. . .

What I am discussing is a users' habit to respond to a post based solely on title.
Titles haven't been in existence during your "entire Bungie.net experience" so your whole premise is flawed from the start.
They have, and thus it is valid.

And yeah people want to read posts by people who are more likely to know what they're talking about. That has nothing to do with titles and everything to do with discerning good information from bad. Titles open the opportunity for users to assume information rather than reach conclusions from given content, the very same fault that you have just displayed here.

  • 09.15.2011 12:03 PM PDT

Member of team Master Theory.

17th Mythic Conqueror of Halo 3.
5th Mythic Conqueror of ODST.
If you would like to know more about Mythic difficulty please go to this thread. Thank you.

Please do not send me "recruitment messages" as I'm not interested in joining any groups currently.

Not necessarily true. I'm actually at the point now where if I don't recognise somebody's username and their post isn't immediately standing out as one that's well written or reasoned I skip by until I recognise a user or see a decent wall.

Title has no influence on that at all because there are some members with high titles who I hold in low regard.

  • 09.15.2011 12:06 PM PDT