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Posted by: Makko Mace
Posted by: superiorarsenal
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Posted by: RKOSNAKE
Wouldn't the needle rifle's needles act as bullets though, seeing how it can propel a needle, say, almost as far as the DMR? (using an example only) in the same speed?This is what I think too, Needle rifle =/= Needler. Similar ammo, but not exactly the same. (Or it's about how the weapon works, and ammo is the same. We haven't seen needler mags since Halo 1.)
They still don't show ANY AP qualities. If a needle rifle round an go clean through a MJOLNIR Mark V helmet, then it would pass straight through a grunt's entire body. What purpose would the super-combine feature serve if it did that?
The whole design of Needle-based Covenant weaponry is to fire hard and sharp needles into soft targets. When the needle explodes it causes a lot of damage to soft tissue. If the needle rifle had AP qualities it would pass through soft materials, going against its purpose. It would also not be sticking 50%-75% out of "soft-targets"
Okay, look... the velocity of a Needler Rifle round is sooo much higher than a Needler pistol that I have no problem believing it could penetrate that helmet.
Also, we have no other contridicting source of say a Needler rifle not penetrating a Marines armor or something. If Kat was killed by a Needler pistol, yes I would be upset but the Rifle shoots a much much faster and probably bigger round so It seems believable.
We have seen 4, with a possible 5, needler weapons in Halo
1) The Needler- It fires low-velocity needles that penetrate soft targets and explode after hitting. When enough are present, a much larger explosion occurs.
2) The Needle Rifle- Fires needles at a high velocity. Like the needler the rounds impact(Key word there) and detonate after a short time, causing damage to targets. If 3 are present, a larger explosion occurs.(Now why would it have an explosive feature if it was an AP weapon that would pass through the targets the explsion would do the best on?)
3) Vampire turret- Fires very large needle rounds that have a tracking ability. Very useful, as the large rounds actively track other aircraft and still have an explosive effect.
4) Needler turret add-on- Basically the same as the Vampire turret
And possibly 5) Energy cutlass- A needle shard turned sword. The goal is to stab it into your enemy in order for it to explode lethally.
and what do we see here? With the exception of the turrets, Needle rounds are meant to impact and explode. So if a Needle round were to have AP qualities, it would go-through and explode, leaving out its main feature from the damage dealt.