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Subject: Lift the ban on political discussion in the Flood

In a time long past, the armies of the dark came again to the lands of men. Their leaders became known as the fallen lords, and their terrible sorcery was without equal in the west.
In 30 years they reduced the civilized nations into carrion and ash. Until the free city of Madrigal alone defined them. An army gathered there, and a desperate battle was joined against the fallen
Heros were born in the fire and bloodshed of the wars which followed and their names and deeds will never be forgotten


Posted by: Recon Number 54
Posted by: Vgnut117
There's too little of moderators moderating discussions in the Flood.

Hi there, Recon Number 54, nice to meet you.


Hi :p

  • 09.19.2011 3:19 PM PDT

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Posted by: Recon Number 54
Posted by: Vgnut117
There's too little of moderators moderating discussions in the Flood.

Hi there, Recon Number 54, nice to meet you.

We've met. I'm insulted.


On a serious note though you know what I mean. You see perfectly legitimate threads talking about, I don't know let's say, the Arab Spring and how it will change the political landscape of the Middle East. Why lock that thread and possibly ban the OP? If there's a rotten member in that thread derailing the discussion punish him or her.

  • 09.19.2011 3:23 PM PDT
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Well, here we are. I guess that it was destined to come to this.

Posted by: Vgnut117
Posted by: Recon Number 54
Posted by: Vgnut117
There's too little of moderators moderating discussions in the Flood.
Hi there, Recon Number 54, nice to meet you.
We've met. I'm insulted.


On a serious note though you know what I mean. You see perfectly legitimate threads talking about, I don't know let's say, the Arab Spring and how it will change the political landscape of the Middle East. Why lock that thread and possibly ban the OP? If there's a rotten member in that thread derailing the discussion punish him or her.

Saying they are permitted would then not allow any discretion or preventative measures.

Right now, I can (and do) lock anything that (in my judgement) is improperly framed, likely to devolve, or that I know I am not going to be around to watch like a hawk.

If the type of discussion is globally greenlighted, then there is no such ability on my part. I have to let the crap and dangerous topics live.

No thanks. Right now I can see something that while having a political element, rationalize it as being more about current events, criminal justice, social issues and less about politics and do my best to encourage the discussion to remain on the "safer" side of that line.

If there was no prohibition..... well, any ability to moderate, guide, coach, or to say "tough call, but I will allow it for now", those options would be gone.

Opening the flood gates is not the solution (pardon the pun) for people who want a glass of water.

  • 09.19.2011 3:43 PM PDT

Lol there's serious discussion in this thread?

  • 09.19.2011 3:48 PM PDT

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Posted by: Recon Number 54
Saying they are permitted would then not allow any discretion or preventative measures.

Right now, I can (and do) lock anything that (in my judgement) is improperly framed, likely to devolve, or that I know I am not going to be around to watch like a hawk.

If the type of discussion is globally greenlighted, then there is no such ability on my part. I have to let the crap and dangerous topics live.

No thanks. Right now I can see something that while having a political element, rationalize it as being more about current events, criminal justice, social issues and less about politics and do my best to encourage the discussion to remain on the "safer" side of that line.

If there was no prohibition..... well, any ability to moderate, guide, coach, or to say "tough call, but I will allow it for now", those options would be gone.

Opening the flood gates is not the solution (pardon the pun) for people who want a glass of water.

If users learn derailing or posting flame inciting topics gets them banned then they won't do it. Of course trolls will continue to post crap like they always do. Rules or no rules they're going to do that.

You're painting a picture of the Flood where there is this influx of political threads. I doubt that to be honest since a lot of the people that want to post political threads do it anyways. Users should be able to post news topics or ask questions without thinking they're going to be banned.

And honestly what would the consequence of allowing what I'm saying be? What is the worry? It can't be flame wars because there are a lot of hot topics that aren't prohibited.

  • 09.19.2011 4:13 PM PDT

ooga booga boooh

I'd ban "Member title" threads before political discussion.

  • 09.19.2011 5:42 PM PDT
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I agree with OP.

  • 09.19.2011 6:13 PM PDT

The funniest thing about this particular signature is that by the time you realise it doesn't say anything it's to late to stop reading it.

Haven't been here in awhile but good to see the Flood can still turn into a massive flamewar over something like that.

Always gives you a good laugh.

Posted by: coolmike699
Because apparently, people who point out a flaw in your logic are complete -blam!-tarded morons.


[Edited on 09.19.2011 10:04 PM PDT]

  • 09.19.2011 10:03 PM PDT

Look at Flood back in 2005.
Look at Flood back in 2008
Look at Flood back in 2010
Look at Flood in 2011 bow, not much of a difference.

  • 09.19.2011 10:35 PM PDT

Stop banning me please.

I agree.

We should be able to disuss politics.

I am tired of these idiot political correctness people getting in the way of everything

  • 09.19.2011 11:35 PM PDT

This thread by far contains the most stupid per post I have seen in some time. All of you should be ashamed for participating in such a stupid thread, and those of you who didn't get banned should be glad you weren't, nearly everyone posting in here deserves at least a 3 day ban.

Locked.

-Achronos 09'


Posted by: Recon Number 54
Posted by: Vgnut117
There's too little of moderators moderating discussions in the Flood.

Hi there, Recon Number 54, nice to meet you.

I was waiting for recon to respond to that.

  • 09.20.2011 2:11 PM PDT

Feel free to send me messages, please be willing to wait 6-8 years for a reply.

1-7 hours if you at least tried to make it readable.

Immediately if you are Yax, Telec, or legendary.

Never if you are mythic, you guys smell funny.

The flood can barely handle normal conversation without erupting into flame wars and slap fights, that sort of thing should be kept to private groups.

  • 09.20.2011 2:23 PM PDT
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Posted by: Recon Number 54
Saying they are permitted would then not allow any discretion or preventative measures.
Change how you operate, then. That you gentlemen are only allowed to take action against threads that overtly break explicit rules is grade-a backwardness of the worst kind.

  • 09.20.2011 2:34 PM PDT
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Well, here we are. I guess that it was destined to come to this.

Posted by: elmicker
Posted by: Recon Number 54
Saying they are permitted would then not allow any discretion or preventative measures.
Change how you operate, then. That you gentlemen are only allowed to take action against threads that overtly break explicit rules is grade-a backwardness of the worst kind.

It prevents a lot of back-and-forth bickering over "why me and not them?"

I'm lazy. Feel free to sue.

  • 09.20.2011 2:37 PM PDT

*calls Foman*

OT: Meh. The moderating system seems to be working fine, The Flood doesn't need political discussion. There was a suicide thread in there a bit ago and everyone just suggested that the OP kill himself.

Yeah, real mature.
Posted by: Recon Number 54
Posted by: elmicker
Posted by: Recon Number 54
Saying they are permitted would then not allow any discretion or preventative measures.
Change how you operate, then. That you gentlemen are only allowed to take action against threads that overtly break explicit rules is grade-a backwardness of the worst kind.

It prevents a lot of back-and-forth bickering over "why me and not them?"

I'm lazy. Feel free to sue.

  • 09.20.2011 2:39 PM PDT

Posted by:ScubaToaster
Posted by: HipiO7
This man, this man right here put it so eloquently that I actually cancelled my own 2000+ word long post.
/slow clap for respect


:)
The person who said participating is important, not winning, obviously never won anything.

Yeah, and lift the embargo on religious discussions, too.



/sarcasm

  • 09.20.2011 2:45 PM PDT

Mr Black_Hawk

No too many flame wars

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