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Subject: Master Chief's Weight

If 343 weren't complete nincompoops and put his weight at a staggering 400 pounds (utterly ridiculous if you ask me) unarmored, what would you say he 'realistically' weighs, compared to the rest of the SPARTANS.

In my honest opinion I'd put him around 230 pounds compared to the others. For example, Carter and Chief are the same height according to Fall of Reach and Reach, 6'10 unarmored. Now take a look at this picture.

Carter is 250 pounds according to Bungie, now take a look at him. John is lean, agile, but noticeably powerful just by the way he carries himself. Carter is more akin to Marcus Fenix from Gears of War, built like a brick sh1thouse.

The only reason I did not include all the members of Noble is because Emile, Jun, and Six all use the same player bipeds, so it would be pointless. I intend to do a pic of MC and Jorge in the future, however. Take into account Jorge is 320 pounds according to Bungie so we'll see how that turns out.

If MC was closer to Jorge's height I'd put him around 270 pounds even.

  • 09.18.2011 7:51 PM PDT

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Spartans weigh almost double (triple?) the norm of human body-weights due to increased muscle and bone mass. 400 pounds is not outside the realm of possibility in that case. It sounds more like Bungie got it wrong with Carter's weight, or Carter has less muscle than Chief.

Also, weren't Spartan-III's supposed to be shorter than Spartan-II's? I remember Bungie saying something about that.

  • 09.18.2011 8:01 PM PDT


Posted by: IonicPaul
Spartans weigh almost double (triple?) the norm of human body-weights due to increased muscle and bone mass. 400 pounds is not outside the realm of possibility in that case. It sounds more like Bungie got it wrong with Carter's weight, or Carter has less muscle than Chief.

Also, weren't Spartan-III's supposed to be shorter than Spartan-II's? I remember Bungie saying something about that.


Just the younger ones.

But yeah you may be correct in that case. It could be MC weighs 390 and Carter weighs closer to 450. Although that would mean Jorge weighs over 500 pounds! :O

  • 09.18.2011 8:08 PM PDT

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Well, I do remember reading in the Fall of Reach about John weighing 200 kilograms, so yeah....

  • 09.18.2011 8:53 PM PDT


Posted by: RKOSNAKE
Well, I do remember reading in the Fall of Reach about John weighing 200 kilograms, so yeah....


Correction: 130 kg.

  • 09.18.2011 10:51 PM PDT

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I think 400 pounds sounds just about right. I think the Spartan 3's actually got upgraded augmentations than Spartan 2's with 0% mortality rate.
So hypothetically, a Spartan 3 may weigh more than a Spartan 2.

The Spartan 3's are only weaker because they got the SPI armor rather than the powerful MJOLNIR, with Noble Team being the exception.

  • 09.18.2011 11:40 PM PDT

He weighs 280 lbs roughly unarmored.

Super dense muscle plus being 6ft whatever.

  • 09.19.2011 12:18 AM PDT

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  • 09.19.2011 12:20 AM PDT

Isn't Master Chief a Cyborg? Meaning parts of his body are actually durable metals or plastics? It would explain the weight difference between the Chief and Carter.

[Edited on 09.19.2011 12:29 AM PDT]

  • 09.19.2011 12:29 AM PDT


Posted by: SW33T 7OO7H
Isn't Master Chief a Cyborg? Meaning parts of his body are actually durable metals or plastics? It would explain the weight difference between the Chief and Carter.

No he's all human. The only cyborg piece of MC would be the nueral implants that i think every UNSC soldier has.

  • 09.19.2011 12:40 AM PDT

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Posted by: RKOSNAKE
Well, I do remember reading in the Fall of Reach about John weighing 200 kilograms, so yeah....


Correction: 130 kg.


I meant the part where a marine sees the Spartans for the first time, but that quote is also there too.

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343 guilty spark says he weighs 394 lbs in the bestarium, mendez says he and the other spartans weigh approx. 440 lbs. yet in the fall of reach, he weighs 286 lbs.

Since I weigh 228 lbs, and im 6'2'', muscled (average density), it seems highly reasonable that master chief would weigh well over 350 lbs. That or all the spartans in the universe are feather weights( I have friends who body build, are shorter than me and still weigh more than the spartan III's like carter).

It seems bungie did not understand what super density muscle and bones would do to your weight. You can't base carter's weight on how he looks in MK V armor, I could say the same for MC in CE.

For every inch a person gains in height, he gains approx. 8-13 lbs in weight because of muscle and bone, which should give him at least 40 lbs over me (if he were slim, which he an the other spartans are not). If you add the super dense muscle chief has on to his height without armor : 6'10.5'' (carter is that height in his armor) that should be another 40-60 lbs of weight. Then, there is the ceramic coating on the spartan's bones, which is quite a dense and heavy compound, which should be another 50-75 lbs.

Combine these 3 weight additions on to his large frame, and you should get a weight somewhere around 390-440 lbs. Not at all unreasonable given that the largest natural giant stood 7'9'' and weighed over 520 lbs (who wasn't by any means obese, google him up and you'll see what i mean).

These dimensions should give MC and the spartans a considerable strength and power advantage over the 320 lbs elites. (something bungie again never fully realized, especially in their armor, when they weigh over 1000 lbs and are twice as strong).

Just something to think about when someone inevitablely makes another one of those "who would win?" threads.

  • 09.19.2011 5:00 AM PDT

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High density does not imply high volume. In fact it implies the opposite.

  • 09.19.2011 8:52 AM PDT

In the pic on the OP you can clearly see that Master Chief is quite a bit smaller, physically, than Carter.

Realistically speaking though, if they had such an abnormal amount of weight pumped into their body they would probably die.
Posted by: qirahs
343 guilty spark says he weighs 394 lbs in the bestarium, mendez says he and the other spartans weigh approx. 440 lbs. yet in the fall of reach, he weighs 286 lbs.

Since I weigh 228 lbs, and im 6'2'', muscled (average density), it seems highly reasonable that master chief would weigh well over 350 lbs. That or all the spartans in the universe are feather weights( I have friends who body build, are shorter than me and still weigh more than the spartan III's like carter).

It seems bungie did not understand what super density muscle and bones would do to your weight. You can't base carter's weight on how he looks in MK V armor, I could say the same for MC in CE.

For every inch a person gains in height, he gains approx. 8-13 lbs in weight because of muscle and bone, which should give him at least 40 lbs over me (if he were slim, which he an the other spartans are not). If you add the super dense muscle chief has on to his height without armor : 6'10.5'' (carter is that height in his armor) that should be another 40-60 lbs of weight. Then, there is the ceramic coating on the spartan's bones, which is quite a dense and heavy compound, which should be another 50-75 lbs.

Combine these 3 weight additions on to his large frame, and you should get a weight somewhere around 390-440 lbs. Not at all unreasonable given that the largest natural giant stood 7'9'' and weighed over 520 lbs (who wasn't by any means obese, google him up and you'll see what i mean).

These dimensions should give MC and the spartans a considerable strength and power advantage over the 320 lbs elites. (something bungie again never fully realized, especially in their armor, when they weigh over 1000 lbs and are twice as strong).

Just something to think about when someone inevitablely makes another one of those "who would win?" threads.

  • 09.19.2011 9:05 PM PDT

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Posted by: qirahs
343 guilty spark says he weighs 394 lbs in the bestarium, mendez says he and the other spartans weigh approx. 440 lbs. yet in the fall of reach, he weighs 286 lbs.

Since I weigh 228 lbs, and im 6'2'', muscled (average density), it seems highly reasonable that master chief would weigh well over 350 lbs. That or all the spartans in the universe are feather weights( I have friends who body build, are shorter than me and still weigh more than the spartan III's like carter).

It seems bungie did not understand what super density muscle and bones would do to your weight. You can't base carter's weight on how he looks in MK V armor, I could say the same for MC in CE.

For every inch a person gains in height, he gains approx. 8-13 lbs in weight because of muscle and bone, which should give him at least 40 lbs over me (if he were slim, which he an the other spartans are not). If you add the super dense muscle chief has on to his height without armor : 6'10.5'' (carter is that height in his armor) that should be another 40-60 lbs of weight. Then, there is the ceramic coating on the spartan's bones, which is quite a dense and heavy compound, which should be another 50-75 lbs.

Combine these 3 weight additions on to his large frame, and you should get a weight somewhere around 390-440 lbs. Not at all unreasonable given that the largest natural giant stood 7'9'' and weighed over 520 lbs (who wasn't by any means obese, google him up and you'll see what i mean).

These dimensions should give MC and the spartans a considerable strength and power advantage over the 320 lbs elites. (something bungie again never fully realized, especially in their armor, when they weigh over 1000 lbs and are twice as strong).

Just something to think about when someone inevitablely makes another one of those "who would win?" threads.


I have always thought the Elite weight figure too low, but it does say (I think) in the visual guide or encyclopdia that combat harness does in fact increase Elite strength.

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I have always thought the Elite weight figure too low, but it does say (I think) in the visual guide or encyclopdia that combat harness does in fact increase Elite strength.


I wasn't aware of that. . . That should make them equals in terms of strength with an unarmored spartan, roughly. As they never stated that elite possesed super dense muscle, as far as we know, their strength comes from their size only.

the elite's weight did seem very low, as i said bungie did not think any of this through. Especially the power a spartan in mjolnir would possess. As it has always been underestimated in my humble opinion.

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Posted by: anton1792
High density does not imply high volume. In fact it implies the opposite.


exactly, in fact high density means you can fit much more fibers in a smaller amount of space, given the profiles the spartans possess. But it however still increases weight, yet as the same time increases pound-for-pound power.

So a man with super-dense muscle will be much smaller (in terms of looks) than those freak of nature body builders. However, he will still weigh as much if not more, and possess much more power.

  • 09.20.2011 6:45 AM PDT

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Posted by: ThePredkiller2
Realistically speaking though, if they had such an abnormal amount of weight pumped into their body they would probably die.

Are you a Doctor now? I am interested though, tell us how that would be the case.

  • 09.20.2011 10:04 AM PDT


Posted by: ThePredkiller2
If 343 weren't complete nincompoops and put his weight at a staggering 400 pounds (utterly ridiculous if you ask me) unarmored, what would you say he 'realistically' weighs, compared to the rest of the SPARTANS.

In my honest opinion I'd put him around 230 pounds compared to the others. For example, Carter and Chief are the same height according to Fall of Reach and Reach, 6'10 unarmored. Now take a look at this picture.

Carter is 250 pounds according to Bungie, now take a look at him. John is lean, agile, but noticeably powerful just by the way he carries himself. Carter is more akin to Marcus Fenix from Gears of War, built like a brick sh1thouse.

The only reason I did not include all the members of Noble is because Emile, Jun, and Six all use the same player bipeds, so it would be pointless. I intend to do a pic of MC and Jorge in the future, however. Take into account Jorge is 320 pounds according to Bungie so we'll see how that turns out.

If MC was closer to Jorge's height I'd put him around 270 pounds even.


130 kilos = 287 pounds. And I think Carter appears more bulky because of his customized Mark V armor. 250-287 may seem heavy, but they're tall, have super dense muscles, and ceramic-like, near-indestructible bones.

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?

um were are all of these crazy weights coming from? Halopedia has the correct ones and the only one that is "off" is jorge's weight of 320 pounds.

john weighs 238 without armor,carter is 250, I see nothing wrong with that.

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MC hammer was a very tall man being about 7'4". Without his armor hes probaly 295 pounds. With his armor hes exactly 2,500 pounds.

  • 09.20.2011 10:35 AM PDT

Didnt the halo 3 gamer manuel say masterchief weighed at almost 1000 pounds???

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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?


Posted by: HeadshotDot220
Didnt the halo 3 gamer manuel say masterchief weighed at almost 1000 pounds???


in armor, like every other spartan that wears Mark v and up

  • 09.20.2011 10:45 AM PDT


Posted by: IonicPaul
Spartans weigh almost double (triple?) the norm of human body-weights due to increased muscle and bone mass. 400 pounds is not outside the realm of possibility in that case. It sounds more like Bungie got it wrong with Carter's weight, or Carter has less muscle than Chief.

Also, weren't Spartan-III's supposed to be shorter than Spartan-II's? I remember Bungie saying something about that.


Spartan II's were the cream of the genetic crop. The tallest, most athletic, and most coordinated of humans. Spartan III's recieved similar augmentation, but were randomly chosen regardless of genetic background/ traits.

  • 09.20.2011 1:02 PM PDT

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