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Subject: Master Chief vs. Noble Six

MC survived several re-entries, blasted through more more covies than any other Spartan, survived the blast of the Halo ring ripping the Dawn apart, brought down countless elites of high rank, and blasted his way in and out of the FLOOD stronghold, High Charity. Six... well he survived a re-entry mostly thanks to his armor... well i think MC has him beat. Noble team... well lets keep in mind that first, while they have numbers, six vs. one is still not easy if things get out of hand. MC can do more damage with a magnum than George can do with a whole space ship. lol

  • 12.19.2011 8:22 PM PDT

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  • 12.19.2011 8:24 PM PDT


Posted by: geturdomerdomed
MC survived several re-entries, blasted through more more covies than any other Spartan, survived the blast of the Halo ring ripping the Dawn apart, brought down countless elites of high rank, and blasted his way in and out of the FLOOD stronghold, High Charity. Six... well he survived a re-entry mostly thanks to his armor... well i think MC has him beat. Noble team... well lets keep in mind that first, while they have numbers, six vs. one is still not easy if things get out of hand. MC can do more damage with a magnum than George can do with a whole space ship. lol


He's survived one, and that's because of a forerunner door.

Blasting through 'more covies then any other spartan' is moot. Other spartans would've killed just as many.

The halo ring firing didn't rip the Forward Unto Dawn apart.

Again, other spartans could've done it.

Six, survived re-entry by planning ahead. (Unlike master Chief halo 2 era).

  • 12.19.2011 9:38 PM PDT

i think where missing the point. Chief is the last sparten. Theres alot said there. Yes the other spartens are great and i agree some are equally as good and better then Chief in certain areas. But what sets him apart is his Luck. Which no other sparten has or had. depending if there are more spartens in halo 4 which i dont see why there wouldnt be.

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  • 12.19.2011 9:43 PM PDT

"I may not be perfect, but always been true."

Spartan III's were trained with both UNSC and Covenant weapons and equipment and had an overall stronger and harder training regime due to the short time they had before being shipped to combat the Covenant, with that said, the fact that they were fighting the Covenant a little time after augmentations as opposed to the Spartan II's having what, 6 months to get used to their augmentations show their effectiveness.

  • 12.20.2011 12:29 AM PDT


Posted by: RKOSNAKE
Spartan III's were trained with both UNSC and Covenant weapons and equipment and had an overall stronger and harder training regime due to the short time they had before being shipped to combat the Covenant, with that said, the fact that they were fighting the Covenant a little time after augmentations as opposed to the Spartan II's having what, 6 months to get used to their augmentations show their effectiveness.


And fact even after a few missions done before suicide ones, they operated just as good as S2's in combat says another thing as well.

  • 12.20.2011 12:49 AM PDT

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Posted by: Da Mr Evil
i think where missing the point. Chief is the last sparten. Theres alot said there. Yes the other spartens are great and i agree some are equally as good and better then Chief in certain areas. But what sets him apart is his Luck. Which no other sparten has or had. depending if there are more spartens in halo 4 which i dont see why there wouldnt be.


He is not the last Spartan moron.

  • 12.20.2011 10:43 AM PDT
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What armor is each wearing? Master Chief is either all MJONIR Mk V or Mk VI, but Noble Six could be wearing anything. What if he or she has a robot arm and two knives? What is each armed with?

  • 12.20.2011 11:01 AM PDT

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Posted by: CoRaMo
What armor is each wearing? Master Chief is either all MJONIR Mk V or Mk VI, but Noble Six could be wearing anything. What if he or she has a robot arm and two knives? What is each armed with?


One would think they would both have default MJOLNIR Mark V armor, maybe have Six wear the [B] helmet and have a gray/black finish to not confuse them, not that it matters though.

  • 12.20.2011 1:41 PM PDT

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Really?! Halo's amazing character or the character who dies at the end of 1 game...hmmm..........

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  • 12.20.2011 4:04 PM PDT

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Posted by: MAnTiTail227
Really?! Halo's amazing character or the character who dies at the end of 1 game...hmmm..........


You mean the character who died so that the All Mighty Chief COULD become such an amazing hero?

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Posted by: MAnTiTail227
Really?! Halo's amazing character or the character who dies at the end of 1 game...hmmm..........


You mean the character who died so that the All Mighty Chief COULD become such an amazing hero?


Well prior to Halo:Reach coming out Chief did just fine without the existence of NOBLE 6, but whatever.

Also, in terms of MC's Re-entry, it is much more impressive than 6's. While Chief used the door, he was also moving at the re-entry velocity of the Keyship, which would be SIGNIFICANTLY faster than NOBLE 6's terminal velocity hit. Even with the ship piece helping, kinetic energy would still transfer over, I mean c'mon, that is basic physics. Actually, I even doubt that 6 hit the ground at terminal velocity, the re-entry pack probably slowed him down significantly. Also, the fact that the Forerunner metal wasn't present at the sight of impact shows that 1)He lost hold of the metal and hit the ground without it or 2)The heat/impact was powerful enough to completely destroy the Forerunner metal.

  • 12.21.2011 2:57 PM PDT

The simple fact that Noble Six gets better equipment than Master Chief warrants Six an easy victory. MC fans if you don't believe me, go back and look at the Armory... There's at least 2,000% more equipment there than Master Chief has ever had access to in the entirety of the original Halo trilogy.

Master Chief can't win, its impossible.

  • 12.21.2011 3:12 PM PDT
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Posted by: ThePredkiller2
The simple fact that Noble Six gets better equipment than Master Chief warrants Six an easy victory. MC fans if you don't believe me, go back and look at the Armory... There's at least 2,000% more equipment there than Master Chief has ever had access to in the entirety of the original Halo trilogy.

Master Chief can't win, its impossible.


Are you trolling? 6 does not have "better equipment" than chief.


Now i have yet to see any one of you idiots set a clear engagement for the two of them. Naturally a Reach Era fight would be best since they would both have Mark V, chief shouldn't have cortana either.

Now the issue is still the amount and degree of training chief has not to mention the experience. And the whole "chief not good alone" is nullified since he only has one target. Chief has done fine in 1v1 fights, it is just when he is trying to take on an armada and forgot he was doing it alone that he had issues.

  • 12.21.2011 3:17 PM PDT
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Posted by: ThePredkiller2
The simple fact that Noble Six gets better equipment than Master Chief warrants Six an easy victory. MC fans if you don't believe me, go back and look at the Armory... There's at least 2,000% more equipment there than Master Chief has ever had access to in the entirety of the original Halo trilogy.

Master Chief can't win, its impossible.


In that case, MC has access to his Mark VI armor, which has 2x the shielding of 6's and 5x the alloy density. Also, what armory are you talking about? They both use UNSC armorys. Also, if you are going off of the weapons used in campaign for each of them, Master Chief has the BR55, which is MUCH better than the DMR.

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Posted by: grey101

Posted by: ThePredkiller2
The simple fact that Noble Six gets better equipment than Master Chief warrants Six an easy victory. MC fans if you don't believe me, go back and look at the Armory... There's at least 2,000% more equipment there than Master Chief has ever had access to in the entirety of the original Halo trilogy.

Master Chief can't win, its impossible.


Are you trolling? 6 does not have "better equipment" than chief.


Now i have yet to see any one of you idiots set a clear engagement for the two of them. Naturally a Reach Era fight would be best since they would both have Mark V, chief shouldn't have cortana either.

Now the issue is still the amount and degree of training chief has not to mention the experience. And the whole "chief not good alone" is nullified since he only has one target. Chief has done fine in 1v1 fights, it is just when he is trying to take on an armada and forgot he was doing it alone that he had issues.


THIS^^^^^^^

  • 12.21.2011 3:21 PM PDT

well this is the way i see it noble six couldn't even survive the covanet war. master chief won the the war. so the way i see it noble six doesn't stand a chance. Noble six is just anthor spartan he died like all the rest... chief is way way more than just a spartan..as we will see in halo 4

  • 12.21.2011 3:36 PM PDT


Posted by: superiorarsenal

Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Posted by: MAnTiTail227
Really?! Halo's amazing character or the character who dies at the end of 1 game...hmmm..........


You mean the character who died so that the All Mighty Chief COULD become such an amazing hero?


Well prior to Halo:Reach coming out Chief did just fine without the existence of NOBLE 6, but whatever.

Also, in terms of MC's Re-entry, it is much more impressive than 6's. While Chief used the door, he was also moving at the re-entry velocity of the Keyship, which would be SIGNIFICANTLY faster than NOBLE 6's terminal velocity hit. Even with the ship piece helping, kinetic energy would still transfer over, I mean c'mon, that is basic physics. Actually, I even doubt that 6 hit the ground at terminal velocity, the re-entry pack probably slowed him down significantly. Also, the fact that the Forerunner metal wasn't present at the sight of impact shows that 1)He lost hold of the metal and hit the ground without it or 2)The heat/impact was powerful enough to completely destroy the Forerunner metal.


Load up halo 3, first level. You find the forerunner item in the other crater of the opening clearing.

  • 12.21.2011 4:33 PM PDT
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Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron

Posted by: superiorarsenal

Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Posted by: MAnTiTail227
Really?! Halo's amazing character or the character who dies at the end of 1 game...hmmm..........


You mean the character who died so that the All Mighty Chief COULD become such an amazing hero?


Well prior to Halo:Reach coming out Chief did just fine without the existence of NOBLE 6, but whatever.

Also, in terms of MC's Re-entry, it is much more impressive than 6's. While Chief used the door, he was also moving at the re-entry velocity of the Keyship, which would be SIGNIFICANTLY faster than NOBLE 6's terminal velocity hit. Even with the ship piece helping, kinetic energy would still transfer over, I mean c'mon, that is basic physics. Actually, I even doubt that 6 hit the ground at terminal velocity, the re-entry pack probably slowed him down significantly. Also, the fact that the Forerunner metal wasn't present at the sight of impact shows that 1)He lost hold of the metal and hit the ground without it or 2)The heat/impact was powerful enough to completely destroy the Forerunner metal.


Load up halo 3, first level. You find the forerunner item in the other crater of the opening clearing.


Huh, never thought to look for it. That's cool though. Either way, my point stands.

  • 12.21.2011 5:45 PM PDT

Well, to be frank Chief's reentry in Halo 3... isn't that unique/impressive. I mean, red team did the same thing at the Battle of Reach with no chutes, or forerunner bulkhead/door to shield them.

My comparison personally with the re-entry scene is Halo 2 Chief leaping from Cairo vs Six being thrown from the Ardent Prayer(the corvette). To me, it shows Six thought the mission through. He kept his re-entry pack on through the entire corvette mission, even though the Pelican was going to be their way out. It shows he thought it through to have a back-up plan ready. And it paid off.

Chief jumped from the Cairo... well with little thought and zero way to survive an orbital fall. If the In Amber Clad hadn't been there, Chief would have ended up a green colored splat in somebody's yard. He got lucky (or plotshielded) in that scenerio because it wouldn't be easy to detect/keep him on sensors. Just like it was impossible for them to even detect James I think in battle of Reach.

[Edited on 12.21.2011 6:34 PM PST]

  • 12.21.2011 6:30 PM PDT

master chief is the one alive

  • 12.21.2011 6:34 PM PDT

yes master chief is better, a LOT better!!!

[Edited on 12.21.2011 6:45 PM PST]

  • 12.21.2011 6:41 PM PDT
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Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
Well, to be frank Chief's reentry in Halo 3... isn't that unique/impressive. I mean, red team did the same thing at the Battle of Reach with no chutes, or forerunner bulkhead/door to shield them.

My comparison personally with the re-entry scene is Halo 2 Chief leaping from Cairo vs Six being thrown from the Ardent Prayer(the corvette). To me, it shows Six thought the mission through. He kept his re-entry pack on through the entire corvette mission, even though the Pelican was going to be their way out. It shows he thought it through to have a back-up plan ready. And it paid off.

Chief jumped from the Cairo... well with little thought and zero way to survive an orbital fall. If the In Amber Clad hadn't been there, Chief would have ended up a green colored splat in somebody's yard. He got lucky (or plotshielded) in that scenerio because it wouldn't be easy to detect/keep him on sensors. Just like it was impossible for them to even detect James I think in battle of Reach.


1) Maybe you don't understand. Red Team jumped from a crashing pelican, Master Chief jumped from the re-entry of the Keyship. Large velocity difference. Also, that plate doesn't do a lot, the bulk of the Kinetic energy from the fall would transfer anyways.

2)Ever thought that a re-entry pack wasn't available? Of course not, because everything is Master Chief's fault. If Chief had one available, he most likely would have used it, Hell, every other time he enters vacuum he at least equips a thruster pack.

3)Do you understand the physics of falls? Hieght does not matter. The only thing that matters is velocity (Of course, height allows more velocity from gravitational acceleration, but to the point of terminal velocity height no longer matters). Hitting the ground at terminal velocity like he would from falling from orbit in that situation would carry FAAAR less kinetic energy than hitting the ground moving at the re-entry velocity of the Keyship. So, since Chief survived a much harsher impact, he would survive the fall from Ciaro station.

  • 12.21.2011 7:11 PM PDT

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The fact that cheif managed to fight his way into the core of a city of flood (high charity) and fought his way out is a feat unachieved by any other human/elite in history.Anyone couldnt have stormed a flood infested city and come out alive much less with a stable mind.



You are forgetting the Arbiter helped him break in. Cortana helped him break out once the Gravemind teleported him there. And who's to say he did come out with a stable mind? Halo 4 isn't even out yet and you're making baseless assumptions. 343 has already said they're taking Master Chief's character development to a level not yet seen.


I'm not speaking about HC in halo 2. cheif did not get teleported to HC in halo 3. It depends wether you play co-op or single-player which determines if the arbiter is with you. Whether it is canon that arby assissted the cheif or not can remain undetermined i guess. I dont think cortana did much in halo 3 cept activate the halo ring so cheif was kinda on his own when escaping. And by stable i meant - not wanting kill himself.

  • 12.21.2011 9:02 PM PDT

Posted by: grey101

Posted by: ThePredkiller2
The simple fact that Noble Six gets better equipment than Master Chief warrants Six an easy victory. MC fans if you don't believe me, go back and look at the Armory... There's at least 2,000% more equipment there than Master Chief has ever had access to in the entirety of the original Halo trilogy.

Master Chief can't win, its impossible.


Are you trolling? 6 does not have "better equipment" than chief.


Are YOU trolling? Kind sir I humbly request you... take a gander: http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100918222637/halo/ima ges/e/e5/SBgJn.jpg

That is what Noble Six has access to at all times during Halo: Reach.

What does 117 have access to in a total of three games?

this.

Thus, we can come to the consensus that you were the one trolling grey.

  • 12.22.2011 2:05 AM PDT