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Subject: Further proof of why Armor Lock needs to be tweaked

Wheelman, gunner and homicidal killer at large, if you are on my team we can relish in the blood of our fallen adversaries. If you are against my team, you are in for a huge world of hurt. I'm a bad man, and I'm more than happy to let you find that out.

I've never used armor lock. In my opinion, it was just something that held you back from being a better player. I use either the run skill or invisibility. Mostly because I suck at jet packing.It doesn't work well with bumper jumper, and I am too lazy to change my controls over from game to game. I do think, if 343i is going to make any more changes to armor abilities though, they should cut the time down on invisibility. It's suppose to be for the sneaky and stealthy. And when I can run from one side of the map to the other without it timing out, it kind of ruins the sneaky part of it. But that is just my opinion.

  • 09.21.2011 8:31 AM PDT

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Posted by: LorDraconis
Yeah, I realize that. Just use to saying Bungie for so long that 343i didn't even enter the thought process. lol


Bungie hasn't fixed ANYTHING since the Beta, let alone AL.
I really do think that as soon as Reach was released Bungie didn' give a -blam!- anymore and just went on with their future endeavors.

I don't believe that's true at all. When Reach was released plans for Halo's ownership transfer where probably already taking place. You can't just rock up with a TU and give it to MS expecting them to publish it.

You guys hate on things you don't understand.


What you say isn't even a reaction to what I had said. In fact, it supports my argument
The fact that "When Reach was released plans for Halo's ownership transfer (were) probably already taking place," just gives MORE reason of why Bungie wouldn't give a -blam!- about things that should have been fixed

  • 09.21.2011 8:33 AM PDT

Wheelman, gunner and homicidal killer at large, if you are on my team we can relish in the blood of our fallen adversaries. If you are against my team, you are in for a huge world of hurt. I'm a bad man, and I'm more than happy to let you find that out.

Bungie DID have the transfer in place long before Reach came out. They spoke of it in the interviews at least 6 months before the debut of Reach. And when Reach came out, they said they were in the process of transferring everything dealing with Halo to 343. They didn't say how long this was going to take, but they did say it. So, honestly, they most likely did just make the game and hand it over to 343 for modifications. 343 has to cut their teeth on this and future Halo projects. And I wish them luck on it.

  • 09.21.2011 8:46 AM PDT

You know armor lock isn't that bad. Sure it has it's qwuips, but it saves lives. When people grenade spam(and every game that has grenades I've played as had this; good job community), it saves lives. When there's 6 grenades in one area, I don't want to think, well, I wonder who will get the kill? I LIKE the option to actually survive and have a fair chace to fight people.

  • 09.21.2011 8:52 AM PDT
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Posted by: brendoid100
You know armor lock isn't that bad. Sure it has it's qwuips, but it saves lives. When people grenade spam(and every game that has grenades I've played as had this; good job community), it saves lives. When there's 6 grenades in one area, I don't want to think, well, I wonder who will get the kill? I LIKE the option to actually survive and have a fair chace to fight people.

1. It's a First person shooter, Grenades and bullets are supposed to kill you.

2. It's a gimmicky ability that lets bad players live for a couple of more secounds.

3. If grenades were dumbed down like people asked, they wouldn't be a problem.

  • 09.21.2011 8:57 AM PDT

Wheelman, gunner and homicidal killer at large, if you are on my team we can relish in the blood of our fallen adversaries. If you are against my team, you are in for a huge world of hurt. I'm a bad man, and I'm more than happy to let you find that out.

No hating here, Cheesy. Regardless of who did what, I think both bungie and 343 are doing their best to listen to their public and make the game as fun as possible for all. 343 has much more on their plate though. If Bungie did something the community didn't like, they were Bungie. They made everything you DID like about the game. 343 doesn't have that backing. But from what I see, 343 is doing everything they can to keep the heart of the game alive and strong. They are going to screw up here and there, but I do feel they want the best for us. And you can't please everyone all the time.
Now if only MS would take that same approach and stop people from being able to sell modded xboxes online...it's one thing when skilled hacks modded the system. but when 8 year old Timmy uses his punk attitude to his weak willed parents and walks around the games like he's all that just because his parents have a job and want to shut him up...that's when the mods need to be put to a halt. just sayin'...

  • 09.21.2011 8:59 AM PDT


Posted by: Get some thumbs
3 sticks = 1 death

I had to use three (3) plasma grenades to kill one player. That's not fair, at all.

An invincibility button doesn't belong in FPS games, especially if it takes no skill whatsoever to be used.


umadbro?

You should be mad at yourself for not realizing that he had Armor Lock.

  • 09.21.2011 9:00 AM PDT

Wheelman, gunner and homicidal killer at large, if you are on my team we can relish in the blood of our fallen adversaries. If you are against my team, you are in for a huge world of hurt. I'm a bad man, and I'm more than happy to let you find that out.

You know armor lock isn't that bad. Sure it has it's qwuips, but it saves lives. When people grenade spam(and every game that has grenades I've played as had this; good job community), it saves lives. When there's 6 grenades in one area, I don't want to think, well, I wonder who will get the kill? I LIKE the option to actually survive and have a fair chace to fight people.


So what do you think of a group of noober lockers that spam grenades and kill off several of the other team while going into armor lock when the grenades come their way? It's not fair. And if you are stupid enough to run into a group of enemies who are throwing grenades like mad, you deserve to get blown up. Learn to use your map to your advantage. Or die being a retard that runs into everything thrown at you.

  • 09.21.2011 9:04 AM PDT


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Posted by: Get some thumbs
3 sticks = 1 death

I had to use three (3) plasma grenades to kill one player. That's not fair, at all.

An invincibility button doesn't belong in FPS games, especially if it takes no skill whatsoever to be used.


umadbro?

You should be mad at yourself for not realizing that he had Armor Lock.
And then what? Let's say he knew he had armor lock. What should he have done?

Not tried to kill him? Left him alone?

Your retard is showing.


I never said that. Watch yourself, your hate is showing.

He can't have armor lock forever.

  • 09.21.2011 9:09 AM PDT

Wheelman, gunner and homicidal killer at large, if you are on my team we can relish in the blood of our fallen adversaries. If you are against my team, you are in for a huge world of hurt. I'm a bad man, and I'm more than happy to let you find that out.

Wow...I've been on the boards for almost an hour now and no one has trolled my comments. WHAT HAPPENED TO THE FORUMS I KNEW AND LOVED SO MUCH!
Please guys, I'm beginning to feel my words almost have some worth to it. So to keep this from happening, I give you this:

FREE SPACE TO TROLL DRACONIS

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Make me proud, guys. :)

  • 09.21.2011 9:09 AM PDT

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all that video showed was you spamming grenades.

  • 09.21.2011 9:11 AM PDT
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tehe

no AA belong in any game... except maybe some junk like transformers

  • 09.21.2011 9:16 AM PDT

He wouldnt have gone into armor lock if you were nade spamming.

Youre trying to make him look like the bad guy.

  • 09.21.2011 9:17 AM PDT

Posted by: SPC COMMANDO
all that video showed was you spamming grenades.

Am I spamming Grenades if I pick up one of the two Plasma Grenades that spawn on opposite sides of Anchor 9 every 30 seconds and stick someone with it? If not, then why does Armor Lock punish me with the same severity as someone who is "spamming"?

Plasma Grenade Spam is caused by Plasma Grenade starts or by poorly balanced Maps. These are local problems. Plasma Grenade Shedding is a global solution. Fixing local problems with global solutions cause unintended problems in unintended areas of the game. If you want to stop spam, nerf the number of Plasma Grenade spawns on a map, or don't play gametypes with Plasma Grenade Starts. Those local solutions solve the local problems without causing unintended damage.

If you have no problem with blocking rockets before they hit you with Armor Lock, you'll have no problem blocking Plasma Grenades before you get stuck after the Title Update. It really should be a change that is applied to each and every playlist.

  • 09.21.2011 9:27 AM PDT

Look OP, it's OK to be putting up a good discussion, but there's a difference between discussing and spewing hatred. And this thread is just oozing it.

Youre welcome to say that anything takes skill, but it also takes skill to properly counter it. And he did just that. I'm failing to see the issue here.

  • 09.21.2011 9:30 AM PDT

Wheelman, gunner and homicidal killer at large, if you are on my team we can relish in the blood of our fallen adversaries. If you are against my team, you are in for a huge world of hurt. I'm a bad man, and I'm more than happy to let you find that out.

Trolls getting me with the silent treatment. I love the way you guys can adapt and change as the situation does. You never cease to amaze me! <3!!

  • 09.21.2011 9:31 AM PDT