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Subject: SPARTAN's or Sangheili?

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Posted by: anton1792
Posted by: ThePredkiller2
Posted by: anton1792
With respect to what?

You're over analyzing the situation just pick one.

Okay. Spartans.

The Sangheili are the result of handing advanced technology to primitive peoples. They still operate under the "right of conquest" and "Might makes right" and all that medieval crap.

As far as physical capabilities are concerned, Spartans have the biometrics on their side and survivability. They are also artificially designed for a purpose. The Sangheili are only naturally evolved. I doubt they have the physical efficiency of Spartans.


are you stupid or ignorant? sangheili are physically stronger, and it is natural evolution. They NATURALLY jump higher then spartans. They NATURALLY hit harder. They are NATURALLY more skilled. All those augments aren't doing -blam!- if the elites are still surpassing them.

I stand by the point i always make. The ONE AND ONLY REASON spartans beat elites, is so that the series can make money. The majority of people in the world dont want to play an 8 hour game to discover that the fight was pointless and you still lost. You might as well have had your character die in the first chapter.

  • 09.22.2011 3:05 AM PDT

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Posted by: GnadeMasta
Sangheili.

I almost voted sangheili for the sole purpose of your bad grammar, but that's the right answer anyway.


Bad grammar was on purpose my good friend. Reference to RvB.

I wasn't referring to your post, I was referring to your title.

  • 09.22.2011 3:40 AM PDT
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Posted by: GnadeMasta

Posted by: Flying Monkiees

Posted by: GnadeMasta
Sangheili.

I almost voted sangheili for the sole purpose of your bad grammar, but that's the right answer anyway.



Bad grammar was on purpose my good friend. Reference to RvB.

I wasn't referring to your post, I was referring to your title.


"SPARTAN's or Sangheili?"
How is that bad grammar?

  • 09.22.2011 3:44 AM PDT
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Posted by: anton1792
Posted by: ThePredkiller2
Posted by: anton1792
With respect to what?

You're over analyzing the situation just pick one.

Okay. Spartans.

The Sangheili are the result of handing advanced technology to primitive peoples. They still operate under the "right of conquest" and "Might makes right" and all that medieval crap.

As far as physical capabilities are concerned, Spartans have the biometrics on their side and survivability. They are also artificially designed for a purpose. The Sangheili are only naturally evolved. I doubt they have the physical efficiency of Spartans.


^ Took the words right out of my mouth.

By the way Predkiller2, the most recent dimensions of the elites puts them at 7'4'', not 8'6''. And there has already been a thread about spartans' weight. I wont go into too much detail over here. The most recent statistic of a spartan's weight was given at 393 lbs, or 440 lbs, 70-120 lbs more than an elite.

That combined with the fact that the elite's strength comes from their size attributed with their local gravity. The spartans' were stated by mendez to be able to lift three times their own body weight (in armor their strength was doubled), and that this would only get better as time went on. Their reflexes were over 3 times faster than the average human, giving them "spartan time" (and in armor was almost impossible to chart on a computer). Not to mention they weighed around 1000 lbs in armor.

So in the physical department, yep. . . I'd say the spartan has the clear advantage over the elite. The spartans in mjolnir are an example of human ingeniuty and intellect being superior to the elite's method of "mimicking" advanced technology sitting around.



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  • 09.22.2011 5:25 AM PDT

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Posted by: AeonPhantom
are you stupid or ignorant? sangheili are physically stronger,

Nope. They are lighter in weight, combined with being slightly taller (A bad thing if you have lower weight...) and need power armour to match Spartans. Spartan-IIIs don't use power armour, yet they can still outpace bring Sangheili down without issue.

Posted by: AeonPhantom
and it is natural evolution.

*Claps slowly*

I just said that, which is why I doubt they are as efficient as Spartans who are artificially created and, to be flippant, "Intelligently designed". Evolution gives a creature only what it needs to survive in its environment, and screws up sometimes. (I.e. Human eyes back to front, the Appendix, swallowing-breathing through same hole, etc) If you are going to tell me that the natural necessity of the Sangheili's evolution is better than the scientific genetic engineering of the Spartans (Designed to produce warriors) then you are a bit slow on the uptake. I mean the Spartans have superconducting materials in their nervous system. Doesn't sound like anything nature could ever manufacture in an organism.

Furthermore, by chance, the addition of Mjolnir is supposed to make them "equal"! What are the chances of that? Zero, that's what. They are either better or worse with Mjolnir, and I think it is pretty obvious that they are better.

Cry some maor pl0x.

Posted by: AeonPhantom
They NATURALLY jump higher then spartans.

Proof please? And don't use gameplay. A written source would be nice.

Posted by: AeonPhantom
They NATURALLY hit harder.

Ignoring the obvious that Spartans maybe are stronger and heavier, how hard you can hit is more determined by how fast you hit. E=1/2mv^2. V^2 is the dominant term, and we all know that Spartans are faster and more agile. So, Spartans probably hit harder too.

Posted by: AeonPhantom
They are NATURALLY more skilled. All those augments aren't doing -blam!- if the elites are still surpassing them.

I must admit, this is the first time I have seen a person get mad over a fictional race of aliens not being as good as a fictional race of soldiers. LOL!

Naturally more skilled? What does that even mean, "Naturally more skilled"? What...are you implying that they are born with warfare tactics inside their head or something? No, they are trained to fight, and not by nature. Same with the Spartans. As for who's is better, I will just take comfort in the fact that as of the final year of the war most of the S-IIs are still alive after fighting the Covenant for 26 years. How many Elites do you think they have killed? Yup.

Posted by: AeonPhantom
I stand by the point i always make.

You must be lonely standing over there then, all alone.

Posted by: AeonPhantom
The ONE AND ONLY REASON spartans beat elites, is so that the series can make money. The majority of people in the world dont want to play an 8 hour game to discover that the fight was pointless and you still lost. You might as well have had your character die in the first chapter.

Congratulations, you just missed the entire point of Halo. The point is not to have the protagonists beaten by a completely arbitrary bad guy who could look like anything and think anything. I could think up any scenario in which that is the case. Pretty pointless then eh? How's about we switch the Elites place with the Brutes. I bet you don't think that now huh?

Let's put a spin on your own argument:

The ONE AND ONLY REASON Elites are anywhere near able to put up a fight with Spartans, is so that the series can make money. The majority of people in the world dont want to play an 8 hour game where you steamrole every last single enemy on Mythic difficulty Solo without a single death, and also to discover that the tension and atmosphere was all pointless because you won so effortlessly anyway. You might as well have had your character win in the first chapter.
Derp.

Reach Forum is that way. >

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  • 09.22.2011 9:24 AM PDT

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I don't care about any of the specifics.

Sangheili all the way.

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Kill them all & let god sort them out

I know how to be a boring -blam!- sapien. I want to be a an allenian heheh

  • 09.22.2011 11:33 AM PDT

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Posted by: me123456789
I don't care about any of the specifics.

Spartan all the way.


Fix'd

  • 09.22.2011 11:34 AM PDT

Justin,Young.

Yeah Spartans All the way

  • 09.22.2011 11:46 AM PDT

They come now... and they take us... the tide rises.

I want write a fanfic in honor of Sangheili race...

  • 09.22.2011 12:44 PM PDT

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