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"Find where the liar hides, so that I may place my boot between his gums!" - Rtas 'Vadum
Posted by: Sniffy66
Posted by: anton1792
To him, he should still view humans with bitter contempt and as heretics accursed by his "gods" who are destroying Forerunner artifacts.Wait... why does he still think the Forerunners as gods still?
Perhaps you should ask Frank O'Conner/Karen Traviss. They started Glasslands with a conspiracy to kill Thel made by Sangheili that still believe. Enough still believe to shatter the Sangheili apparently. If abandoning their faith was as easy as that, then why all this nonsense? And what makes Thel so special? We do not see any changes in his attitude towards Humans at all except for when it is convenient at the end of the game. Anything you say about Thel, such as feelings and intentions, are done to justify his actions at that point, not the other way around where his feelings and intentions are known which then leads to his actions. It was a poorly developed plot at that point. He just suddenly turns 180* in a matter of minutes.
Humans have not really been cleared of the charge of destroying Forerunner artifacts, of which their sacredness is not negated by the Great Journey being proven false, not by the Forerunner's deaths. The only way that could be overturned is really if A) They consider that Truth lied, B) It is made known that Humanity are the Reclaimers. He doesn't know Humans are Reclaimers yet, and he has proof of Humanity destroying Forerunner technology with the destruction of Alpha Halo.
If he no longer views Forerunner technology as holy, then fair enough he might not kill them, but he sure as hell is not going to even speak to them let alone engage in alliances. Here is what Thel still thinks of Humans in 2552. This is from the Covenant game manual of Halo 2:
The human in question is certainly unusual, although not the creature he has been described as. It stands taller than most, is faster and more aggressive, but still irrevocably a Human animal, worthy of neither fear not respect. It is merely an exception that proves the rule. As always, Humans remain beneath our contempt.
Sangheili do not only dislike Humans due to their dogma, they dislike them because they find them cowardly and dishonorable. The thing that makes all these "arguments" trying to justify the Elites in their actions, and to make them "Humanitys future friends" or whatever all have the same problem: They try to justify actions by stating possible feelings and intent favorable to their position, rather than justifying intent and feelings with definite actions. In other words you start with something you want to believe and then look for evidence, not from what you do know and then fitting the most likely situation onto that. They are all contrived and superfluous. Occam's Razor anyone?
And to those people saying Humans would be a valuable ally, just stop. It is made pretty clear by Ghosts of Onyx and the Encyclopedia that this is not the case. They didn't even consider Humanity as allys or innocent in all things until most of their own fleets were eradicated.
Um, 343 outright called Miranda Keyes a reclaimer directly infront of Thel.
Where?