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Subject: why dose noble 6 has to die at the end


Posted by: Wazooty
Because part of the drama of the fall of reach is that humanities last line of defense is destroyed.

And spartans were a big part of that defense.

Also, we *think*...keyword being *think* - that all the spartans, humanities super heroes, are dead, but one.


Lol... Obviously, you havent ready of the books, cuz theres uite a few left.

  • 09.27.2011 11:23 AM PDT

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Noble 6 died for sure. HE died many times while I played as him. Usually by that last pink needle that came lazily hovering by. But at any rate, jun survived and escaped with halsey. Its the truth skeptics can holler, but we all know better. Don't let the hype cloud the truth. Noble 6 died so The pillar could escape. No spartan would leave his helmet. What you should be asking is.... why did one needle rifle shot kill kat? What spartan turns off their shields in a combat zone? She deserved to die.

  • 09.27.2011 11:54 AM PDT

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Spoiler, change title

Also wrong forum

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He dies so you could make this troll thread, never respond, and mispell does like a phaggot.


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  • 09.27.2011 1:15 PM PDT


Posted by: hotshot revan II

Posted by: ThePredkiller2
He had to sacrifice himself to save the crew of the Pillar of Autumn, which included Cortana, humanity's single best hope for survival. If Six had failed, EVERYONE would've died. If you are forgetting something, had Six not delivered Cortana, who would've helped the Chief destroy the second Installation 04? There would've been no way to save the Index from the previous one.

Without Cortana and Six's delivery, humanity would've lost. Period.


LMAO

Edit: It was just a small part of Cortana ,not the real one.If they lost that fragment then nothing else happened.The real Cortana would still have been on the autumn,they still would have found Alpha Halo with the Sigma Octanus artifact coordinates.




Halopedian, Sigma Octanus IV Artifact

Scans of the artifact were later given to Cortana and Dr. Halsey, whom attempted to decrypt it as a language.


The fragment was the decoded coordinates from said artifact. Without Six, the UNSC would've lost, period. Quit denying simple fact out of your blind fanboylike adoration with the Chief.

  • 09.27.2011 7:58 PM PDT


Posted by: Birco001
Spoiler, change title

Also wrong forum


It's the right forum, this forum is for discussion of the canon of any and all Bungie games. This is a discussion of the games canon.

But yes, the title is too big of a spoiler, a change would be nice for people who haven't beaten the game and don't want to know the end otherwise.

  • 09.27.2011 8:03 PM PDT

i think that bungie kind of leave it uo p to you to decide noble six's fate as of the other memebers of noble team (except for kat lol) bungie left many hints to make you think to yourself if noble team really die: Noble 1 you never really saw his dead body he may of jumped out at the last second
Noble 3: for some reason his sheilds are still on when he is there dead on the ground, strage isnt it??
Noble 4: you never really know what happened to him
Noble 5: the corvette didnt actually blow up, it went into slipspace taking the middle of the supercarrier with it which could mean that he is somewhere in space (they even say this is the commentary)
Noble 6: you never really see him get stabbed
i actually agree with you its a unique ending but something inside me thinks that noble team are still alive

  • 09.29.2011 1:34 PM PDT

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Posted by: jordan richard
why dose noble 6 have to die why just he get capture or he gets away in time


Maybe I will answer your question if you talk in legitimate English. Stop talking like you are 8 (unless you are. Then, gtfo).

  • 09.29.2011 1:37 PM PDT
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Posted by: KazPluto
He doessnnt diie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Canon says 1 person lived. no one can understand that. why...


Halsey?

  • 09.29.2011 1:49 PM PDT

nice grammar

  • 09.29.2011 1:54 PM PDT
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Posted by: ThePredkiller2

Posted by: hotshot revan II

Posted by: ThePredkiller2
He had to sacrifice himself to save the crew of the Pillar of Autumn, which included Cortana, humanity's single best hope for survival. If Six had failed, EVERYONE would've died. If you are forgetting something, had Six not delivered Cortana, who would've helped the Chief destroy the second Installation 04? There would've been no way to save the Index from the previous one.

Without Cortana and Six's delivery, humanity would've lost. Period.


LMAO

Edit: It was just a small part of Cortana ,not the real one.If they lost that fragment then nothing else happened.The real Cortana would still have been on the autumn,they still would have found Alpha Halo with the Sigma Octanus artifact coordinates.




Halopedian, Sigma Octanus IV Artifact

Scans of the artifact were later given to Cortana and Dr. Halsey, whom attempted to decrypt it as a language.


The fragment was the decoded coordinates from said artifact. Without Six, the UNSC would've lost, period. Quit denying simple fact out of your blind fanboylike adoration with the Chief.


It was said in the fall of reach that Cortana used the coordinates fom the sigma octanus artifact to jump to Halo.

The Reach artifact itself didn't provided those coordinates...it was the Sigma Octanus artifact,you know the artifact that was captured by Blue Team.

Then you claimed that Six saved the UNSC .In that logic all main characters of Halo were are saviors of the UNSC too because of their indirect involvement like Master Chief mom and Daddy.

You will cite me a -blam!- source where it says that the Reach artifact provided coordinates for the Halo location,you will do so now.

The Reach artifact looked like nothing more then an excuse to include the Forerunners in the game and give Noble a larger importance just like they did with capturing Vergil in ODST.

/Rant starts
Simple example: Vergil was supposed to tell them what that artifact is in Africa,yet in Halo 3 the UNSC still thought it was the ark,so vergil either went BOOM before Johnson asked it any questions or Vergil didn't knew anything.In oter words it was a pointless add to the story as it contradicts everything the UNSC thought in the first half of Halo 3 till Cortanas message came from High Charity.

Don't get me wrong i loved the ODST story,but seriously WTF?

/End rant

  • 09.30.2011 12:47 PM PDT

He's not dead you idiot!

  • 09.30.2011 2:10 PM PDT

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Posted by: cybertron
The Covenant don't take prisoners, and the planet was being glassed and there was no way off the planet, so there is no survival of Noble Six. I am sorry.

That, and everyone else on Noble team died, so it was fitting for Bungie to have Noble 6 die as well.

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im all for assisinating,but i dont like my fingers dirty.
headlice?i dont understand english.
IM A MONITOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

well all these guys are right,but he did have a choice,one if you watch the beginning of halo reach then carter will 6 to leave all that"lone wolf stuff behind",and one he should've have went on the pillar.but if you watch the halo 4 teaser it looks like master cheif is actaully riding on the pillar.

  • 09.30.2011 2:17 PM PDT
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im all for assisinating,but i dont like my fingers dirty.
headlice?i dont understand english.
IM A MONITOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

actually she didnt know that there was a drop pod there and second it was a sniper.

  • 09.30.2011 2:18 PM PDT


Posted by: hotshot revan II

Posted by: ThePredkiller2

Posted by: hotshot revan II

Posted by: ThePredkiller2
He had to sacrifice himself to save the crew of the Pillar of Autumn, which included Cortana, humanity's single best hope for survival. If Six had failed, EVERYONE would've died. If you are forgetting something, had Six not delivered Cortana, who would've helped the Chief destroy the second Installation 04? There would've been no way to save the Index from the previous one.

Without Cortana and Six's delivery, humanity would've lost. Period.


LMAO

Edit: It was just a small part of Cortana ,not the real one.If they lost that fragment then nothing else happened.The real Cortana would still have been on the autumn,they still would have found Alpha Halo with the Sigma Octanus artifact coordinates.




Halopedian, Sigma Octanus IV Artifact

Scans of the artifact were later given to Cortana and Dr. Halsey, whom attempted to decrypt it as a language.


The fragment was the decoded coordinates from said artifact. Without Six, the UNSC would've lost, period. Quit denying simple fact out of your blind fanboylike adoration with the Chief.


It was said in the fall of reach that Cortana used the coordinates fom the sigma octanus artifact to jump to Halo.

The Reach artifact itself didn't provided those coordinates...it was the Sigma Octanus artifact,you know the artifact that was captured by Blue Team.

Then you claimed that Six saved the UNSC .In that logic all main characters of Halo were are saviors of the UNSC too because of their indirect involvement like Master Chief mom and Daddy.

You will cite me a -blam!- source where it says that the Reach artifact provided coordinates for the Halo location,you will do so now.

The Reach artifact looked like nothing more then an excuse to include the Forerunners in the game and give Noble a larger importance just like they did with capturing Vergil in ODST.

/Rant starts
Simple example: Vergil was supposed to tell them what that artifact is in Africa,yet in Halo 3 the UNSC still thought it was the ark,so vergil either went BOOM before Johnson asked it any questions or Vergil didn't knew anything.In oter words it was a pointless add to the story as it contradicts everything the UNSC thought in the first half of Halo 3 till Cortanas message came from High Charity.

Don't get me wrong i loved the ODST story,but seriously WTF?

/End rant



Dr. Halsey, Halo Reach Noble Six Eulogy
"And because of you, we found Halo, unlocked its secrets..."


Need I say more?

[Edited on 09.30.2011 10:17 PM PDT]

  • 09.30.2011 10:17 PM PDT
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I havn't finsihed the Halo reach campaign yet.

I am soooo mad at you OP for ruining the ending for me.

May a 6 legged 8 armed chuck norris visit you in your sleep.

  • 09.30.2011 10:53 PM PDT

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Posted by: hotshot revan II
It was said in the fall of reach that Cortana used the coordinates fom the sigma octanus artifact to jump to Halo.

I'm gonna stop you there. In the Fall of Reach it's not explained how Cortana could miraculously decipher the coordinates, when the brightest minds at ONI (Halsey included,) could not.

Thanks to Halo: Reach, we now know that she was able to do so because of the Forerunner knowledge she "downloaded."
Posted by: PARAEGIS
I havn't finsihed the Halo reach campaign yet.

I am soooo mad at you OP for ruining the ending for me.

I hope you're kidding. If not, it's been a year. That is no one's fault but your own.

  • 09.30.2011 11:15 PM PDT

He had to die because Reach played out like a classic drama. It was about the loss of a planet, the desperate but futile defense of that planet, the loss of comrades and making clear that everything the UNSC thought was unbeatable (Reach and Spartans) could in fact easily be wiped out.

The death of Noble 6 was to make you feel that loss. The deaths of the rest of Noble Team were less sensitive, because thats how Spartans go: just like that and without any huge emotions being applied to it. But the death of Six was to make you feel that desperate struggle, wanting to survive as long as possible even when you know your fate is already set in stone.

The real "star" in Reach was Reach itself slowly being destroyed during the game. Six was the personification of that death and its impact during Lone Wolf.

Add to that: his death made sure everybody who did make it out thought Chief was the only active Spartan confirmed to be a live. Which ties it in with how CE starts: with Chief being the "last" one.

  • 10.01.2011 1:23 AM PDT
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"Time was your ally human. But now it has abandoned you. The Forerunners....have returned. And this tomb... is now yours". - The Didact

I'm gonna stop you there. In the Fall of Reach it's not explained how Cortana could miraculously decipher the coordinates, when the brightest minds at ONI (Halsey included,) could not.

Thanks to Halo: Reach, we now know that she was able to do so because of the Forerunner knowledge she "downloaded."


The fall of Reach pg 307-308 :

Keyes order to plot a navigation route sparked a connection beween this data;she accessed the alien symbols, and rather than compare them with alphabets or hieroglyphicsn compared them to star formations.

There were some startling similarities-along with a number of differences. Cortana reanalyzed the symbols and accounted for thousands of years of stellar drift.A tenth of a second later she had a close match on her charts-86.2 percent.

Intresting. Perhaps the markings in the rock recovered on Sigma Octanus IV ere navigation symbols, albeit highly unusual and stylized ones-mathematical symbols as artistic and elegant as Chinise calligraphy.

What was there that the Covenant wanted so badly that they had launched a full offensive against Sigma Octanus IV?Whatever it was...Cortana was intrested, too.She compared the new NAV coordinates with her directives and was pleased with what she saw; the new course complied with the Cole Protocol. Good.



Need I say more?

No you don't,but this leads into the follwing retarded things:

1.Halsey claims that the data in that artifact would give the UNSC a chance in war,how does discovering 04 helps the UNSC if the covies were there too?However the 04 events were still important and lead into Halo 2 and Halo 3 so that's a plus plus

But still Halsey hasn't uber powers which allows her to look into the future,so how the -blam!- does she even knew that that data would give the UNSC an edge unless she thought that that artifact is a treasure to Forerunner tech.There was no way she would know that 04 events would lead into the civil war and oter things..

Seems very weak to me just like the ODST vergil BS



2.Six was indirectly responsible,see my example of Chiefs mommy

3.Sigma octanus artifact -_-

  • 10.01.2011 2:13 AM PDT

One does not simply trolololol into Mordor.

I really don't get why people insist on this by saying "Oh there is a slim chance"

What so the Zealot is like 5 cm's off stabbing him then it cuts to black, what so when it cuts to black he magically dodges it and overpowers ALL the Covenant around him, avoids ALL the Wraiths bombarding him, and finds an escape ship despite being told the Pillar of Autumn is the last escape ship in that area.

HOW COULD HE SURVIVE!

  • 10.01.2011 4:34 AM PDT


Posted by: cybertron

Posted by: Wazooty
Because part of the drama of the fall of reach is that humanities last line of defense is destroyed.

And spartans were a big part of that defense.

Also, we *think*...keyword being *think* - that all the spartans, humanities super heroes, are dead, but one.


Lol... Obviously, you havent ready of the books, cuz theres uite a few left.


You obviously didn't read my frikking post. And if you did you sure as hell did not pick up on what I was hinting.

Seriously stupid people on this board.

I pretty much freaking laid it out for you that I was implying that I knew there were other spartans left but you did not pick up on that blatantly obvious and in your face hint. Stay in school, please.

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  • 10.01.2011 5:22 AM PDT
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Guys you relize hes just phaggot trolling. He cant spell right. He doesnt reply. Bet ya 4 bucks he didnt even save this thread. Let it die peacefully >.<

  • 10.01.2011 7:27 AM PDT

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Posted by: hotshot revan II
1.Halsey claims that the data in that artifact would give the UNSC a chance in war,how does discovering 04 helps the UNSC if the covies were there too?However the 04 events were still important and lead into Halo 2 and Halo 3 so that's a plus

Because it is very likely that all Halsey saw on the Installation was that it was a super-weapon. I doubt that she knew exactly what it was or would do, and I doubt very much that she knew the Covenant would be there.

As to the quote from Fall of Reach, how do you think Cortana knew how to read the coordinates on the Sigma Octanus artifact?

It is really not that complex to understand.

  • 10.01.2011 1:57 PM PDT
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Posted by: jack0fhearts
Posted by: hotshot revan II
1.Halsey claims that the data in that artifact would give the UNSC a chance in war,how does discovering 04 helps the UNSC if the covies were there too?However the 04 events were still important and lead into Halo 2 and Halo 3 so that's a plus

Because it is very likely that all Halsey saw on the Installation was that it was a super-weapon. I doubt that she knew exactly what it was or would do, and I doubt very much that she knew the Covenant would be there.

As to the quote from Fall of Reach, how do you think Cortana knew how to read the coordinates on the Sigma Octanus artifact?

It is really not that complex to understand.


True,but then we have the contradictions between the two sources so we would either completely ignore the book or the game :(

  • 10.01.2011 2:11 PM PDT