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Subject: Banned at Waypoint

I just got banned at Waypoint for the third time. All of them have been for attacking other forum members. Apparently saying "lolclans" is attacking other forum members, and that has caused two of them. The third was for calling somebody "close-minded" for saying ODST was bad for being different.

On to my point. It appears that the moderation at 343 is much tighter. Not better, just tighter. Anyone else had run ins with the moderators there?

  • 09.24.2011 7:20 PM PDT

In a time long past, the armies of the dark came again to the lands of men. Their leaders became known as the fallen lords, and their terrible sorcery was without equal in the west.
In 30 years they reduced the civilized nations into carrion and ash. Until the free city of Madrigal alone defined them. An army gathered there, and a desperate battle was joined against the fallen
Heros were born in the fire and bloodshed of the wars which followed and their names and deeds will never be forgotten

Good, don't be mean to people.

  • 09.24.2011 7:21 PM PDT

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Posted by: spartain ken 15
Good, don't be mean to people.
Their mods are super strict. Mainly because their population mainly consists of 5 year olds who are new to forum-ing in general.

I'm fresh off my 6th ban...

[Edited on 09.24.2011 7:22 PM PDT]

  • 09.24.2011 7:22 PM PDT

In a time long past, the armies of the dark came again to the lands of men. Their leaders became known as the fallen lords, and their terrible sorcery was without equal in the west.
In 30 years they reduced the civilized nations into carrion and ash. Until the free city of Madrigal alone defined them. An army gathered there, and a desperate battle was joined against the fallen
Heros were born in the fire and bloodshed of the wars which followed and their names and deeds will never be forgotten


Posted by: CrazzySnipe55

Posted by: spartain ken 15
Good, don't be mean to people.
Their mods are super strict. Mainly because their population mainly consists of 5 year olds who are new to forum-ing in general.

I'm fresh off my 6th ban...


I know, but a lot of those mods shouldn't be mods aka they got the job from kissing up to BS Angel.

  • 09.24.2011 7:23 PM PDT

“Oh, it’s a little bit of everything, it’s the mountains, it’s the fog, it’s the news at six o’clock, it’s the death of my first dog, it’s the angels up above me, it’s the song that they don’t sing, It’s a little bit of everything.”
- Dawes, A little bit of everything

Back up your statements with some supporting details, that way saying someone is "close-minded" would carry some merit, otherwise it is just attacking other members.

I have noticed that their moderation is much tighter though and I don't like it, actually, I don't like their entire forums.

  • 09.24.2011 7:23 PM PDT

In a time long past, the armies of the dark came again to the lands of men. Their leaders became known as the fallen lords, and their terrible sorcery was without equal in the west.
In 30 years they reduced the civilized nations into carrion and ash. Until the free city of Madrigal alone defined them. An army gathered there, and a desperate battle was joined against the fallen
Heros were born in the fire and bloodshed of the wars which followed and their names and deeds will never be forgotten


Posted by: Kickimanjaro
Back up your statements with some supporting details, that way saying someone is "close-minded" would carry some merit, otherwise it is just attacking other members.

I have noticed that their moderation is much tighter though and I don't like it, actually, I don't like their entire forums.


Their forums are annoying.

They don't listen to their fans much and have been in better for 18 months.

It is not very good.

  • 09.24.2011 7:25 PM PDT

Why not stop by my File Share while you're here?

~Long Live Halo 2
Only regret is I didn't play more of it.

If you haven't noticed by now, I'm sort of a jerk.

4 bans here, apparently making a thread asking for the Jetpack to be removed from Arena can get you banned.

  • 09.24.2011 7:26 PM PDT
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loose moderaters make forums more enjoyable, unless they clearly just deserve to be banned.

  • 09.24.2011 7:26 PM PDT

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Posted by: spartain ken 15

Posted by: CrazzySnipe55

Posted by: spartain ken 15
Good, don't be mean to people.
Their mods are super strict. Mainly because their population mainly consists of 5 year olds who are new to forum-ing in general.

I'm fresh off my 6th ban...


I know, but a lot of those mods shouldn't be mods aka they got the job from kissing up to BS Angel.
Agreed... Have you seen Link1201's post count? He'll be a Community Leader soon, no doubt. I mean... damn.

  • 09.24.2011 7:27 PM PDT

In a time long past, the armies of the dark came again to the lands of men. Their leaders became known as the fallen lords, and their terrible sorcery was without equal in the west.
In 30 years they reduced the civilized nations into carrion and ash. Until the free city of Madrigal alone defined them. An army gathered there, and a desperate battle was joined against the fallen
Heros were born in the fire and bloodshed of the wars which followed and their names and deeds will never be forgotten


Posted by: CrazzySnipe55
Agreed... Have you seen Link1201's post count? He'll be a Community Leader soon, no doubt. I mean... damn.


Yeah, I could of been a mod there now if I posted more and if their forums weren't so boring.

  • 09.24.2011 7:28 PM PDT

Half Man.
Half Horse.
Half Machine.
All "Jerk Who's Really Bad at Math."

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No, I do not want to join your clan/group.

That's one reason I avoid Waypoint; I've never had a ban there yet but that's probably only because I rarely post.

I lurk around and I've noticed most posts/threads that could be construed as being argumentative or flaming in even the slightest disappear pretty quickly. It reminds me of my time on the SOE boards where it essentially became "your opinion is whatever we tell you and if you dare suggest otherwise you will be silenced."

  • 09.24.2011 7:29 PM PDT

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Thread: Created

Ban Status: Pending.

[Edited on 09.24.2011 7:35 PM PDT]

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You should come here to complain about bans from other websites completely. I hear that is the thing to do.

  • 09.24.2011 7:36 PM PDT

In a time long past, the armies of the dark came again to the lands of men. Their leaders became known as the fallen lords, and their terrible sorcery was without equal in the west.
In 30 years they reduced the civilized nations into carrion and ash. Until the free city of Madrigal alone defined them. An army gathered there, and a desperate battle was joined against the fallen
Heros were born in the fire and bloodshed of the wars which followed and their names and deeds will never be forgotten


Posted by: CrazzySnipe55
Thread: Created

Ban Status: Pending.


Their forums look even worse.

A forum called "cats", WHAT?

  • 09.24.2011 7:38 PM PDT

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Posted by: spartain ken 15

Posted by: CrazzySnipe55
Thread: Created

Ban Status: Pending.


Their forums look even worse.

A forum called "cats", WHAT?
1. It's the gammas. I'm using them cause its better than the Betas imo.

2. It's their version of the flood.. but sooo much less popular.

  • 09.24.2011 7:41 PM PDT

ATTENTION MODERATORS. My latest ban (14-day ban from Qbix89) is not legitimate, take a look for yourself. Please review this before considering me a "repeat offender". Thank you.

I have never been banned on their forums.

Having said this, from what others tell me, the moderation on that forum is way, way too over the top. They try to stop all the origins of arguments, which never works, but only takes away from actual good, healthy discussion.

You can't stop flame wars and arguments by silencing the people. That's not right because you also put good discussion in jeopardy.

If they chose to use the Waypoint forums for a major percentage of the feedback for the future of Halo, it will be very close minded and the feedback taken will not necessarily be very good.

  • 09.24.2011 7:41 PM PDT

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I have never been banned on their forums.

Having said this, from what others tell me, the moderation on that forum is way, way too over the top. They try to stop all the origins of arguments, which never works, but only takes away from actual good, healthy discussion.

You can't stop flame wars and arguments by silencing the people. That's not right because you also put good discussion in jeopardy.

If they chose to use the Waypoint forums for a major percentage of the feedback for the future of Halo, it will be very close minded and the feedback taken will not necessarily be very good.
I've had a 2 page discussion with someone in a thread get totally wiped out because the "argument" was getting too "heated".

  • 09.24.2011 7:43 PM PDT

Half Man.
Half Horse.
Half Machine.
All "Jerk Who's Really Bad at Math."

PS
No, I do not want to join your clan/group.

Posted by: CrazzySnipe55
Thread: Created

Ban Status: Pending.

You won't get many replies, if any at all, because of the likelihood of getting banned simply for agreeing with you.

  • 09.24.2011 7:44 PM PDT
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Posted by: spartain ken 15

Posted by: Kickimanjaro
Back up your statements with some supporting details, that way saying someone is "close-minded" would carry some merit, otherwise it is just attacking other members.

I have noticed that their moderation is much tighter though and I don't like it, actually, I don't like their entire forums.


Their forums are annoying.

They don't listen to their fans much and have been in better for 18 months.

It is not very good.

Ken, sometimes the -blam!- that comes from you is just over the top.

Listen to their fans? What do you think they've been doing all this time? Everything that they are doing is because the community wanted it. I could give examples but that's not the point.

Sure the mods there are retarded, but with time I'm sure they'll be replaced.

  • 09.24.2011 8:00 PM PDT

We miss you Logan.
Ask any question. I'll help with anything on site or off.

I'm a moderator at Waypoint. I'd have to say that our rules are way different from bungie's rules according to the feed back we get from banned users.If you would like to discuss your ban message a moderator on the site.

  • 09.24.2011 8:00 PM PDT

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Posted by: machinimagames
I'm a moderator at Waypoint. I'd have to say that our rules are way different from bungie's rules according to the feed back we get from banned users.If you would like to discuss your ban message a moderator on the site.
Who are you on waypoint?

Also, I can't PM a moderator. I don't get a message saying who banned me. I don't know who to message. I'm not going to message a random mod who probably didn't do anything.

Also, it doesn't cite the post that got you banned. I know the post is removed, but you could copy and paste it into the ban message. Or is that too hard?

Also, it no longer even cites a reason for a ban in the gamma forums. It just says "lol ur bant til friday kthxbai". This is stupid.

[Edited on 09.24.2011 8:09 PM PDT]

  • 09.24.2011 8:06 PM PDT

Half Man.
Half Horse.
Half Machine.
All "Jerk Who's Really Bad at Math."

PS
No, I do not want to join your clan/group.

Posted by: machinimagames
I'm a moderator at Waypoint. I'd have to say that our rules are way different from bungie's rules according to the feed back we get from banned users.If you would like to discuss your ban message a moderator on the site.

I don't think an individual ban is the problem; the problem is that the strict moderation doesn't make people feel very welcome and that's a bad thing considering they've just inherited a very popular franchise. Shutting down discussions because someone might get offended does more harm to the community and the feedback cycle than good.

Order needs to be enforced but it is possible to go overboard when doing so and Waypoint does seem to be going overboard.

  • 09.24.2011 8:07 PM PDT
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I <3 you too Bungie

Why even bother with Waypoint right now?

  • 09.24.2011 8:08 PM PDT

I'll be on my own side.

This makes no sense. Why do you need feedback from banned users to know this?
Posted by: machinimagames
I'd have to say that our rules are way different from bungie's rules according to the feed back we get from banned users.

  • 09.24.2011 8:09 PM PDT

We miss you Logan.
Ask any question. I'll help with anything on site or off.

That is why we are so strict. 343 has a very popular franchise so they will have allot of members on the forums. Some trolls flamers things like that.Those are not the official forums, so when the new forums come out I beleave the rules will be altered.

  • 09.24.2011 8:10 PM PDT

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