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Subject: Why Was Halo 3's Story a Failure For You?

Halo 2s started off well but got a little wacky with MC taking on the covenant capital city practically alone. The entire covenant side of the plot was spot on though, almost perfect.

Halo 3 was lacking in uh..epic scale. Things seemed a little too separated from the rest of the universe despite the fate of the entire galaxy hinging on what was happening. Would've like a more global view of the final war for humanity. 27 years have all led to this.

Also, the final assault on the control room could've been a climactic battle to end all climactic battles, MC, the arbiter and a whole bunch of sword wielding elites fighting through hordes of flood up the slopes, with a space battle of flood vs elite ships taking place right above the control room...like the prologue battle in LOTR. There's is absolutely no reason the rest of the elites and pretty much all of humanity should have left the battle to two people when the fate of the galaxy rested on MC getting the index to the control room.

Herm.

  • 09.25.2011 7:02 PM PDT


Posted by: Wolverfrog
The Ark should have been on Earth.

Entirety of the game should have been on Earth.


This would have been a lot more interesting too, imo.

This is the resolution of a human struggle yet most of humanity is elsewhere twiddling there thumbs on earth. Not very climactic.

The human fleet should have rallied with the elite fleet to go to the ark... Or the flood should have absolutely ravaged a lot of earth.

Something...

  • 09.25.2011 7:05 PM PDT
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Oh, where to begin? I could go on for hours on all the various sides of this issue.

First thing's first: the Arbiter probably his own branching path in draft one. A ludicrously vocal minority wanted him written out of the series entirely, and Bungie compromised by relegating him to co-op partner.

This focus on one single soldier in one planetwide battle with arms at the edge of the galaxy and delta Halo creates some odd moments -- High Charity arriving from nowhere with little in the way of explanation of where it got the power, furinstance. Master Chief probably wouldn't realisticly ever discover how HC managed to warp, but realism isn't neccessarily good storytelling.

Next, half the game is catching up to that scrapped final level in Halo 2. The plot here in slight, almost nonexistant. You spend one level being discovered by Johnson, another having Keyes tell you "you have to get to the pit!" -- level three is spent driving to the pit. Level four activates the pit. One continous line on the road to one plot point -- one we've already seen in the announcement trailer.
_Compare the above to acts 2, 3, and 4 of Gears of War III, where the journey -is- the plot. They meet familiar faces, learn things. I'd give GoW III a C+ on the plot (a high point for that series, even!) and this is still better than H3's plot in the early levels.

It gets better the second they reach the Ark. Still, you spend one level making landfall, one level taking over the joint. There's not enough mystery after that first "look up in the sky!" Hence why they made a point of trying to recapture the magic in Reach.

I did like the ending, though. That it was the one full level with Cortana in your head was no coincidence.

  • 09.25.2011 7:21 PM PDT


Posted by: Wolverfrog
The Ark should have been on Earth.

Entirety of the game should have been on Earth.


Halo 2 was apparently meant to be THE end, taking place on earth with the ark but they faced development problems, and had to just cut it off. SO, when they made Halo 3, they would have had to find a way to extend the story.

  • 09.25.2011 8:38 PM PDT

Death to rank junkies.

I wouldn't call it a failure, but:

1. too short
2. very few Elite allies
3. marine intelligence decreased
4. removal of the spectre/brute plasma rifle
5. no dual wielding needlers
6. Cortana/Gravemind moments were pointless and annoying

  • 09.25.2011 8:55 PM PDT

Generalizations.
Helping idiots hate other idiots since people have existed.

Halo 3's campaign is great. But when compared to other Halo games, it's a little behind.

Nothing can compare to Combat Evolved, where you pooped your pants everytime a Flood form jumped out at you. That campaign had me legitimately frightened.

[Edited on 09.25.2011 9:04 PM PDT]

  • 09.25.2011 9:04 PM PDT


Posted by: ImpishFountain
Dude before I got live I played the campaign for about 2 years strait I call YOU a disappointment.


Idiot for not reading the post.

  • 09.25.2011 9:54 PM PDT


Posted by: oaklandp8ntbalr
Nothing can compare to Combat Evolved, where you pooped your pants everytime a Flood form jumped out at you.


It was scary in the sixth level, maybe the seventh, but after that, no.

  • 09.25.2011 9:58 PM PDT

The tide is turning, brothers! Let us take our kingdom back!

For me, it wasn't really a failure.

  • 09.25.2011 11:23 PM PDT

Have A Nice Day!

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I was just disappointed at how rushed it seemed. There was a big buildup going on in Halo 2, and 3 just spewed it out without any type of attachment to the characters. Oh, and Johnson dies. That's a problem.

  • 09.25.2011 11:28 PM PDT

I am the best thing that ever happened to you

Too short, missing a certain grand epicness and it was too short. It felt like all the sudden Bungie didn't care about the story anymore and focused on the multilayer instead. The campaign sucked. It felt like something token, tacked on without any heart, soul or effort. Anti-climatic and way too short would have to be my two biggest complaints. I will never forgive Bungie for this travesty. Halo 2 came a long way from CE, Halo 3 probably couldn't have been anything other than a disappointment.

  • 09.26.2011 5:23 AM PDT
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Posted by: xgeua

Posted by: Wolverfrog
The Ark should have been on Earth.

Entirety of the game should have been on Earth.


Halo 2 was apparently meant to be THE end, taking place on earth with the ark but they faced development problems, and had to just cut it off. SO, when they made Halo 3, they would have had to find a way to extend the story.


I prefered the ark being elsewhere. That cutscene where all the ships show up with the Ark in the background is probably the the most epic out of all the games.

  • 09.26.2011 12:14 PM PDT

"We knew the world would not be the same.
A few people laughed, a few people cried, most people were silent.
I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita.
Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says,
'Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds...'
I suppose we all thought that one way or another."
- J. Robert Oppenheimer

Posted by: anton1792
Exploring the relations between Humanity and the Elites more. Rtas and Hood are surely not the only points of view in this war.
This. I wanted to see more human/sangheili interaction and how they dealed with that.
Like this. (go to 6:35)

[Edited on 09.26.2011 1:13 PM PDT]

  • 09.26.2011 1:13 PM PDT

Do Work Son!

Halo 3 was one of the best stories I have ever played in a game. Halo 2 was good but I think it got kind of boring near the end, and I got lost to much.

  • 09.26.2011 1:26 PM PDT

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