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Subject: November will signal death.
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This is where I go to burn off some steam from all that repressed anger I have. If I insulted you on b.net, don't take it literally.

ur still bad gtfo

  • 09.26.2011 5:53 PM PDT

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Posted by: Wikked Navajoe
My problems [with Reach] are basically just full parties, mlg, and people who go out of their way not to get killed.


Posted by: No Naku Koro Ni_
Well the way it will look in the next few months...the leaderboard will be contested quite like this anyways:

1)Battlefield 3
2)Halo CE anniversary
3)Gears of War 3
4)Skyrim
5)Modern Warefare 3

Don't quote me on the order but it's a pretty good guess atm. May look alot different soon enough


This is a terrible estimation as to what will happen. Terrible. A campaign only installment of a game that was released 10 years ago will NOT be number 2.

I would guess it barely or won't even make top 10.

1. Modern Warfare 3 (common sense)
2. Battlefield 3 OR Black Ops
3. Skyrim
4. Modern Warfare 2
5. Reach
6. Gears of War 3

  • 09.26.2011 6:00 PM PDT


Posted by: Viper Skills

Posted by: No Naku Koro Ni_
Well the way it will look in the next few months...the leaderboard will be contested quite like this anyways:

1)Battlefield 3
2)Halo CE anniversary
3)Gears of War 3
4)Skyrim
5)Modern Warefare 3

Don't quote me on the order but it's a pretty good guess atm. May look alot different soon enough


This is a terrible estimation as to what will happen. Terrible. A campaign only installment of a game that was released 10 years ago will NOT be number 2.

I would guess it barely or won't even make top 10.

1. Modern Warfare 3 (common sense)
2. Battlefield 3 OR Black Ops
3. Skyrim
4. Modern Warfare 2
5. Reach
6. Gears of War 3

I'm thinking BF3 will be the top, since most people looked at mw3 trailers and saw the same exact weapons.

  • 09.26.2011 6:07 PM PDT
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Bungie is to Halo like the sun is to earth, It needs it.

(GT got hacked, original GT was Alfredo Garcia6.)

I could care less if theres 100 people halo reach or 1,000,000 people playing reach, which ever 10yr old kid whos playing COD games because there way easier to play can go right ahead and play it, i seriously dont care, there the ones missing out on the fun Halo is, not me so i feel bad for people who arnt playing reach. my opinion

  • 09.26.2011 6:27 PM PDT


Posted by: Viper Skills

Posted by: No Naku Koro Ni_
Well the way it will look in the next few months...the leaderboard will be contested quite like this anyways:

1)Battlefield 3
2)Halo CE anniversary
3)Gears of War 3
4)Skyrim
5)Modern Warefare 3

Don't quote me on the order but it's a pretty good guess atm. May look alot different soon enough


This is a terrible estimation as to what will happen. Terrible. A campaign only installment of a game that was released 10 years ago will NOT be number 2.

I would guess it barely or won't even make top 10.

1. Modern Warfare 3 (common sense)
2. Battlefield 3 OR Black Ops
3. Skyrim
4. Modern Warfare 2
5. Reach
6. Gears of War 3


Gears is already at 150,000 strong at every time.

  • 09.26.2011 7:02 PM PDT
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Not getting cod
Not getting gears
Not getting bf3 (as of yet)
Not getting batman

I will alternate between Skyrim and CEA when November 15 rolls around ( i have pre-ordered both)

  • 09.26.2011 7:06 PM PDT

Don't worry, you're still your mom's favorite Bnet member.

I really do think Halo CEA will bring back a small amount of players for a while. With a behemoth like Call of Duty in charge, along with Gears and Battlefield bringing up the rear it will be hard for any of these games to maintain a steady lead in player count.

  • 09.26.2011 9:14 PM PDT

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March 3, 2553


Posted by: TheSpiderChief
It'll drop, yes, but there will still be a significant number of people still playing Reach.


He makes an extremely valid point. Not to mention Assassins creed and Battlefield 3 will release around the same date as MW3. So i will expect to see Reach at 5 or 6 where it belongs.

  • 09.26.2011 9:17 PM PDT

"Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." - Ayaan Hirsi Ali

It's foolish in the first place for you to even consider posting something logical on these forums.

You're wasting you time, you shouldn't have bothered.

OT: I don't give a -blam!-

If I have diversity in the games I play, meaning they're not all of the same genre, then I will have no problem frequenting between them, be they Gears of War 3, Halo: Reach or Skyrim.

[Edited on 09.26.2011 9:18 PM PDT]

  • 09.26.2011 9:17 PM PDT

Don't worry, you're still your mom's favorite Bnet member.

When Modern Warfare 3 releases, I see most Black Ops kids graduating to MW3, and many MW2 players moving up as well. This is how I see it (And this is without counting Gears, Skyrim, BF3 and so on):

1. Modern Warfare 3
2. Black Ops
3. Reach
4. Modern Warfare 2

  • 09.26.2011 9:19 PM PDT

S.A.A.

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If you have kept up with population statistics, you have seen that for the past year according to Major Nelson's Blog that Halo: Reach has been number three in the population leaderboards on Xbox Live. (Halo: Reach was only number one on the population leaderboards on Xbox Live for a small time after release.)

Why am I showing this? Am I trying to say Halo: Reach's population is failing since it is not number one? Well, first of all, it's a fact that every other major Halo game (Halo games that had significance in the Halo franchise of games such as Halo 2 and Halo 3) released remained in the number one spot on the Xbox Live population leaderboards at least two years after release. Second, Halo: Reach is not only being "beaten" by two other games, but one of the said games was released a year prior to Halo: Reach's release. So, technically, I would be correct if I said that Halo: Reach is a failure in terms of population.

I'm not discussing what's happening now, but what will happen in the weeks to come.

As of now (at least since the week of August 29th), the population statistics of Xbox Live are unknown (at least to my knowledge by viewing Major Nelson's "LIVE Activity for week of" blog posts), but since Gears of War 3 released not so long ago, it is almost guaranteed that the population leaderboards have moved around a bit. Halo: Reach could still be number three, or possibly even lower for all we know (again, according to the blog posts by Major Nelson). Despite the new title update that we were given last week (which was not made to specifically bring back users to the game, but to improve and make the game itself more fun for the current players), I am highly doubtful that Halo: Reach's population increased, and I'm sure many others are as well.

November signals the release of some of the most controversial games of this year. There's Skyrim, Modern Warfare® 3 (those two alone are significant), and others that will be released in this time. However, November 8th is the most significant day of November in this circumstance. As you know, two Call of Duty® branded games are beating Halo: Reach in UUs, one of which, again, is one year older than Halo: Reach. This does not show well for the future.

November 8th is the release of Modern Warfare® 3. It's predecessor, Modern Warfare® 2, is currently beating Halo: Reach in terms of population two years after release. Can you imagine what will happen in terms of population statistics? This game will most definitely be number one on the population leaderboards on Xbox Live. This event can drop Halo: Reach as low as number four or five.

This, along with other releases, will signal Halo: Reach's death in terms of popularity. There's a pretty big possibility that Halo: Reach will drop significantly in terms of population. Games like Skyrim may not be as significant as Modern Warfare® 3, but it will certainly take away from Halo: Reach's population, and "water it down".

Don't think this can happen? Two Call of Duty® games are beating Halo: Reach on the Xbox Live population leaderboards. There's no doubt that a third can also accomplish this feat. If Halo 3 could drop to number two after being number one for more than two years straight from a significant Call of Duty® release such as Modern Warfare® 2, there's no doubt that the same thing could occur with Halo: Reach, but on a much worse scale considering the statistics we have now.

I named this topic "November will signal death." because it will be the death of Halo: Reach in terms of high popularity due to significant game releases. Although, November 15h may help revive the Halo: Reach population with Halo: CEA, but honestly, who is buying Halo: CEA that doesn't already own Halo: Reach? (Yes, this may be considered an "opinion", but I'm sure many of you can classify it as a logical one.)

Summary: Due to significant game releases, Halo: Reach's population will "die" and be at new, never-before-seen lows.

Note: In before "tl;dr"; in before "I don't care and I'm an ignorant bastard"; in before the original poster cannot "in before".

Edit: A few of you misunderstood me and took the "death" literal. Please refer to third to last paragraph.

Edit #2: This is why I don't create topics like this. I try my hardest not to include opinion, yet the ignorant bastards of the Halo: Reach forum -blam!- on any logic you use in your argument/discussion. There's no winning. This forum is full of trolling, arrogance, and complaining. I guess after a year from release and a brand new hub for Halo discussion this still hasn't changed. All of this is the reason this forum has made a disgrace of the Bungie.net community and forums. Yet if I post a topic like this in the halo.xbox.com forums, it will be removed since anything that is even close to starting controversy is apparently not allowed, which gets in the way of good, healthy discussion. This topic wasn't even meant for people to ridicule me for my "opinion" (which is vaguely mentioned in the original post, if mentioned at all). It was meant to prove something using logic. I created a logical, theoretical observation over the future population of Halo: Reach. Apparently you have all been able to turn this into something else, something that strays away from what I'm trying to say in the original post. And for that, you are all idiots.


You see, most people that play Reach, play it for a good time. Many are field marshals and stuff.

How do you know that CoD will rip its popularity.

Think about it like this: New game comes out, people play it for a few months (around 3, maybe more, maybe less) then they go play the game that they enjoy the most. For me, Halo: Reach is my base game. When a new game comes out, I get that game, play it. Then I like to switch around back to Reach because I'd feel like playing Reach instead of GoW because I played GoW too much.

Or...

The people that will boost MW3 population are the ones that play CoD: BO, MW2, WoW. While a portion of Halo's population might want to try the game for a small time and then come back.

Most people I know usually play Halo: Reach even when CoD came out. They'd play CoD for a while and come back.

Just some food for thought.

Is this logical enough, OP?

  • 09.26.2011 9:21 PM PDT
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"We are Soffish. Soffish are we. We look like real fishies when we're placed into the sea."

Jun is Masterchef

Updating the Spartan when Reach came out.

Where have I seen a thread like this before... oh wait, last year, when half the forum made these exact same claims with different games. You say the writing is on the wall, but the writing is in your handwriting.

[Edited on 09.26.2011 9:26 PM PDT]

  • 09.26.2011 9:22 PM PDT

In memory of those fallen in the defense of Earth and her colonies.

March 3, 2553


Posted by: BravoZulu

Posted by: Atom Alchemist
wtf does singularity online has to do with ANYTHING i said???

You implied that when reach no longer has players to fill the games, it will be taken offline. His argument is that Singularity does not have these players, yet still has MM lobbies.

Poorly worded, mind you...


Some of the playlists only get 100 players, they even go as low as in the 50's.

Whats gunna happen when these new games release? 10 people? 5? Maybe. We shall see.

  • 09.26.2011 9:24 PM PDT

Does population HONESTLY matter? HONESTLY?
It doesn't. Just as long as I have friends who play it, the game is alive.

Reach will be gone in a few weeks. CEA might bring the population up a little, but that's it.

  • 09.26.2011 10:20 PM PDT


Posted by: Viper Skills

Posted by: No Naku Koro Ni_
Well the way it will look in the next few months...the leaderboard will be contested quite like this anyways:

1)Battlefield 3
2)Halo CE anniversary
3)Gears of War 3
4)Skyrim
5)Modern Warefare 3

Don't quote me on the order but it's a pretty good guess atm. May look alot different soon enough


This is a terrible estimation as to what will happen. Terrible. A campaign only installment of a game that was released 10 years ago will NOT be number 2.

I would guess it barely or won't even make top 10.

1. Modern Warfare 3 (common sense)
2. Battlefield 3 OR Black Ops
3. Skyrim
4. Modern Warfare 2
5. Reach
6. Gears of War 3
It does however support multiplayer on that disk, those who play it will be merged with the already set on Reach. It could prove to be a big one, although not second. Battlefield 3 will take second. Skyrim won't break 3-5. It's just like Fallout New Vegas, once they beat it, they'll leave.

  • 09.26.2011 10:23 PM PDT

TLDR, my mac is reading it out to me cause i can't be bothered.

  • 09.26.2011 10:24 PM PDT
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Posted by: Viper Skills

Posted by: No Naku Koro Ni_
Well the way it will look in the next few months...the leaderboard will be contested quite like this anyways:

1)Battlefield 3
2)Halo CE anniversary
3)Gears of War 3
4)Skyrim
5)Modern Warefare 3

Don't quote me on the order but it's a pretty good guess atm. May look alot different soon enough


This is a terrible estimation as to what will happen. Terrible. A campaign only installment of a game that was released 10 years ago will NOT be number 2.

I would guess it barely or won't even make top 10.

1. Modern Warfare 3 (common sense)
2. Battlefield 3 OR Black Ops
3. Skyrim
4. Modern Warfare 2
5. Reach
6. Gears of War 3


Gears is already at 150,000 strong at every time.



More like 200,000 strong...And those 200,000 are from Campaign matchmaking alone. You can assume there are at least 50,000 playing Versus. I don't even know how many play Beast/Horde.

  • 09.26.2011 11:40 PM PDT

Marine Corps.
Semper Fi.

Posted by: Wikked Navajoe
My problems [with Reach] are basically just full parties, mlg, and people who go out of their way not to get killed.

BF3 will NOT top MW3 in terms of numbers. CoD has the numbers behind them.

  • 09.27.2011 12:00 AM PDT

Posted by: Dustin 6047
Troll confirmed. I never even insulted you

Posted by: Dustin 6047
OP - You're a dumbass with the reading comprehension skills of a second grader.


Can someone tell me what's wrong with these two, this made me LOL hard.

Is it beating Halo Reach Xboxwise or all the gaming platforms put together against Halo? MW2 that is.

I know for sure that I'm ditching Halo Reach when Skyrim comes out because I'm a big Elder Scrolls fan though, same with about 20 of my friends.

  • 09.27.2011 12:01 AM PDT


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Posted by: BravoZulu

Posted by: Atom Alchemist
wtf does singularity online has to do with ANYTHING i said???

You implied that when reach no longer has players to fill the games, it will be taken offline. His argument is that Singularity does not have these players, yet still has MM lobbies.

Poorly worded, mind you...


Some of the playlists only get 100 players, they even go as low as in the 50's.

Whats gunna happen when these new games release? 10 people? 5? Maybe. We shall see.

Its called the playlist should be deleted. So was H3 killed by new games in early '10 when Throwback and MLG FFA were getting 30-100 players?

Think before you post.

  • 09.27.2011 12:02 AM PDT


Posted by: Viper Skills
BF3 will NOT top MW3 in terms of numbers. CoD has the numbers behind them.

Yeah, I dont know where alot of this flawed logic is coming from ITT.

  • 09.27.2011 12:03 AM PDT

As long as there are enough people in the Anniversary playlists for me to find matches this is mostly irrelevant to my interests.

  • 09.27.2011 12:05 AM PDT