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Subject: November will signal death.


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If you have kept up with population statistics, you have seen that for the past year according to Major Nelson's Blog that Halo: Reach has been number three in the population leaderboards on Xbox Live. (Halo: Reach was only number one on the population leaderboards on Xbox Live for a small time after release.)

Why am I showing this? Am I trying to say Halo: Reach's population is failing since it is not number one? Well, first of all, it's a fact that every other major Halo game (Halo games that had significance in the Halo franchise of games such as Halo 2 and Halo 3) released remained in the number one spot on the Xbox Live population leaderboards at least two years after release. Second, Halo: Reach is not only being "beaten" by two other games, but one of the said games was released a year prior to Halo: Reach's release. So, technically, I would be correct if I said that Halo: Reach is a failure in terms of population.

I'm not discussing what's happening now, but what will happen in the weeks to come.

As of now (at least since the week of August 29th), the population statistics of Xbox Live are unknown (at least to my knowledge by viewing Major Nelson's "LIVE Activity for week of" blog posts), but since Gears of War 3 released not so long ago, it is almost guaranteed that the population leaderboards have moved around a bit. Halo: Reach could still be number three, or possibly even lower for all we know (again, according to the blog posts by Major Nelson). Despite the new title update that we were given last week (which was not made to specifically bring back users to the game, but to improve and make the game itself more fun for the current players), I am highly doubtful that Halo: Reach's population increased, and I'm sure many others are as well.

November signals the release of some of the most controversial games of this year. There's Skyrim, Modern Warfare® 3 (those two alone are significant), and others that will be released in this time. However, November 8th is the most significant day of November in this circumstance. As you know, two Call of Duty® branded games are beating Halo: Reach in UUs, one of which, again, is one year older than Halo: Reach. This does not show well for the future.

November 8th is the release of Modern Warfare® 3. It's predecessor, Modern Warfare® 2, is currently beating Halo: Reach in terms of population two years after release. Can you imagine what will happen in terms of population statistics? This game will most definitely be number one on the population leaderboards on Xbox Live. This event can drop Halo: Reach as low as number four or five.

This, along with other releases, will signal Halo: Reach's death in terms of popularity. There's a pretty big possibility that Halo: Reach will drop significantly in terms of population. Games like Skyrim may not be as significant as Modern Warfare® 3, but it will certainly take away from Halo: Reach's population, and "water it down".

Don't think this can happen? Two Call of Duty® games are beating Halo: Reach on the Xbox Live population leaderboards. There's no doubt that a third can also accomplish this feat. If Halo 3 could drop to number two after being number one for more than two years straight from a significant Call of Duty® release such as Modern Warfare® 2, there's no doubt that the same thing could occur with Halo: Reach, but on a much worse scale considering the statistics we have now.

I named this topic "November will signal death." because it will be the death of Halo: Reach in terms of high popularity due to significant game releases. Although, November 15h may help revive the Halo: Reach population with Halo: CEA, but honestly, who is buying Halo: CEA that doesn't already own Halo: Reach? (Yes, this may be considered an "opinion", but I'm sure many of you can classify it as a logical one.)

Summary: Due to significant game releases, Halo: Reach's population will "die" and be at new, never-before-seen lows.

Note: In before "tl;dr"; in before "I don't care and I'm an ignorant bastard"; in before the original poster cannot "in before".

Edit: A few of you misunderstood me and took the "death" literal. Please refer to third to last paragraph.

Edit #2: This is why I don't create topics like this. I try my hardest not to include opinion, yet the ignorant bastards of the Halo: Reach forum -blam!- on any logic you use in your argument/discussion. There's no winning. This forum is full of trolling, arrogance, and complaining. I guess after a year from release and a brand new hub for Halo discussion this still hasn't changed. All of this is the reason this forum has made a disgrace of the Bungie.net community and forums. Yet if I post a topic like this in the halo.xbox.com forums, it will be removed since anything that is even close to starting controversy is apparently not allowed, which gets in the way of good, healthy discussion. This topic wasn't even meant for people to ridicule me for my "opinion" (which is vaguely mentioned in the original post, if mentioned at all). It was meant to prove something using logic. I created a logical, theoretical observation over the future population of Halo: Reach. Apparently you have all been able to turn this into something else, something that strays away from what I'm trying to say in the original post. And for that, you are all idiots.

Well theres always halo anniversary

  • 11.04.2011 12:50 PM PDT

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Posted by: JoshBionicle
He's Commenting, Not Bumping


No he bumped it.

The thread was long dead until he bumped it a new life.

  • 11.04.2011 1:12 PM PDT


Posted by: HC Swat Iz Back

Posted by: JoshBionicle
He's Commenting, Not Bumping


No he bumped it.

The thread was long dead until he bumped it a new life.


So what he wrote wasn't a comment?

  • 11.04.2011 1:45 PM PDT

Frank O'Connor said he doesn't think the Halo series needs to be taken in a radical new direction... it just needs to go "deeper"

"Ultimately the core game mechanic and strength of the universe doesn't need to be changed, it just needs to be taken deeper. We want to make Halo games - we don't want to make Call of Duty or Ridge Racer. We want to make Halo games because we understand what's special about Halo."

Lol, a sport game beats a Halo FPS.

Reach is not even a year and half old.

  • 11.04.2011 2:21 PM PDT
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Posted by: x Foman123 x
LOL, real rap is not made for you, white people.

We don't expect you to "get it." And you don't, as you've made abundantly clear through your numerous embarrassing dances, karaoke performances, ignorant haters, and pitiful imitators.

You giving your opinion on rap is like a dog watching TV. It's kind of cute because it LOOKS like he knows what's going on, but you know he really has no actual ability to comprehend it.

I'll be playing MW3 for sure.

  • 11.04.2011 2:23 PM PDT
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Banned just for calling someone retarded? lolBnet mods
Duardo = retard

So you think Reach is an actual Halo game, huh? LOL
Jesus! There's a BoB in ma Falcon!

Cool story bro...

  • 11.04.2011 2:25 PM PDT

Frank O'Connor said he doesn't think the Halo series needs to be taken in a radical new direction... it just needs to go "deeper"

"Ultimately the core game mechanic and strength of the universe doesn't need to be changed, it just needs to be taken deeper. We want to make Halo games - we don't want to make Call of Duty or Ridge Racer. We want to make Halo games because we understand what's special about Halo."


Posted by: irie II
I'll be playing MW3 for sure.

  • 11.04.2011 2:25 PM PDT

-Hey
-Yeah?
-Do you ever wonder why we're here?
-...No,I don't...
-Then what's the point of this conversation?
-I dunno man...I dunno...

Well,if it it gets rid of the noobs for a couple of months,good, screw the population size

  • 11.04.2011 4:46 PM PDT

Carpet....

I like trains.

  • 11.04.2011 5:26 PM PDT

The reasons I see as relevent to Reach's popualation drop:

- More competition. Back in the days of Halo 2 and Halo 3 the were almost no other competitive multiplayer games in existance. Now that everyone and their brother is jumping on the competitive shooter band-wagon. People have a larger pallet of titles, gameplay and, narrative to choose from now. Halo simply isn't everyones cup of tea, many people are moving arround to find what their game is.

- The mentality of todays average gamer. People like having fun. Not everyone sees play a hyper-competitive FPS, such as Halo, enjoyable. Some people see getting massive ammounts of kills or tearing through tides of enemys fun. Others seek out games that give them a challenge. The point is not any one game can satisfy everyone for an indefinate ammount of time.

Savvy?

  • 11.04.2011 5:46 PM PDT

THE METER!

  • 11.04.2011 5:54 PM PDT
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Posted by: chotato
smart, interesting, seems out of place.


Official fan of Assassin's Creed, Call of Duty, (Problem with that?) Halo, and Bungie, also a total gaming junkie.

*Crosses fingers for Revelations to beat Reach

  • 11.04.2011 6:15 PM PDT

ive seen the pop on mm jump from 20ks in oct to 80ks in november and CEA hasnt even been released.... prediction fail.

  • 11.06.2011 1:26 AM PDT

Halo is still my online game of choice and despite how dumbed-down the mechanics have became, I won't be going anywhere.

I'm buying CEA and will continue playing online. There have to be more people like me. We stick it out even when things seem bleak...

  • 11.06.2011 1:34 AM PDT

I havent play reach in ages (2 weeks!) and im starting to get sloppy

  • 11.06.2011 1:59 AM PDT
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HALO FOREVER YOU HERE ME NEVER EVER WITH I PLAY COD OR BATTLEFIELD OR ANYTHING BUT GEARS

  • 11.06.2011 2:04 AM PDT

I'm LITERALLY better than Tim Tebow
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Better than Tebow.


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Posted by: dragonslayer518
HALO FOREVER YOU HERE ME NEVER EVER WITH I PLAY COD OR BATTLEFIELD OR ANYTHING BUT GEARS


You're missing out on some good games you fool.

  • 11.06.2011 6:36 AM PDT
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The landscape is changing and this year is the year of where the two big boys come out to play: Modern Warfare and Battlefield. Of course, the already one year old Halo: Reach is going to fall.

November 15, there will be a bunch of new maps and I'd say throughout December, maybe even in January, we'll see Halo: Reach back in the Top 3, maybe Top 4 if Modern Warfare 2 somehow manages to stay afloat. After Christmas definitely, when all the final Modern Warfare 2 stragglers get MW3, Halo: Reach should regain its spot in the Top 3.

At the end of the day, as long as I can hit Matchmaking and still manage to find a game, the Xbox Live rankings don't bother me. I want to play a game. Its about as simple as that.

  • 11.06.2011 6:58 AM PDT
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Exactly.

I didn't know that a strong 3-5 spot on the activity meant death, Oh well.

  • 11.06.2011 9:21 AM PDT

Foday Church
>He wonders why we're here...
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Its population was failing because of Black ops(Sucks), Gears of War 3, etc. . An 343i Waited A Whole Year in order to do something about Reach Now.

  • 11.06.2011 9:27 AM PDT


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Posted by: irie II
I'll be playing MW3 for sure.
ill be playing my heart out of that game until the 15th at which point ill get revelations and anniversary, but revelations is going to be better than anniversary

  • 11.06.2011 9:57 AM PDT

Why would it fall? Its getting a map pack with some of the best maps on it.

  • 11.06.2011 11:13 AM PDT
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I heard someone say once (paraphrasing here) "Multiflag on Blood Gulch with your friends is what makes Halo, Halo." I GUARANTEE that more people agree with that sentiment than "Getting a 50 in MLG is what makes Halo, Halo." - Oboewan42
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So you typed all of that BS just to say MW3 will kill Reach?

It's likely those that have MW2 will stop playing that, buy MW3, and start playing it; thus pushing MW3 will replace MW2 and MW2 will die.

But to be honest. Who the -blam!- cares?

[Edited on 11.06.2011 11:20 AM PST]

  • 11.06.2011 11:19 AM PDT

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Black Ops and Modern Warfare 2 will fall to about 5 and 6 because Modern Warfare games are the biggest games and the third one is coming out. The reason why two CoD games were at the top of the list was because CoD fans didn't know which one to play. Halo Reach will make it to fourth, third or second if it's very luckey for a few months. Then Reach will fall again. Remember these predictions, they WILL be correct.

  • 11.06.2011 12:48 PM PDT

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Posted by: LonE ZealoT
But to be honest. Who the -blam!- cares?

If Reach falls further, you won't be able to find any games with people. And it'll get to the point where you have to play the playlists that are somewhat populated to even find a game with somebody.

The OP is trying to make us aware of this and discuss it to see how everybody feels about it. Obviously...!

  • 11.06.2011 12:50 PM PDT